Substack promoted a Nazi blog again (www.usermag.co)
from InfiniteHench@lemmy.world to technology@lemmy.world on 30 Jul 2025 00:55
https://lemmy.world/post/33672004

Substack sent a push alert encouraging users to subscribe to a Nazi newsletter that claimed Jewish people are a sickness and that we must eradicate minorities to build a “White homeland.”

This has been a problem for years: Substack has a Nazi problem - The Atlantic

Substack won’t commit to removing Nazi content - TechCrunch

I don’t think this can be ignored anymore. If you’re on Substack, please consider one of its many fine alternatives. Wired wrote about a few last year.

Plus, it’s quite easy to move a newsletter these days.

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Max_P@lemmy.max-p.me on 30 Jul 2025 01:32 next collapse

I cringe everytime someone’s like “subscribe to my Substack”. No, fuck off with your substack, everyone knows they’re nazi supporters, you’re complicit.

Whostosay@sh.itjust.works on 30 Jul 2025 06:22 collapse

No such thing as a Nazi supporter, my friend. That’s just a Nazi.

obbeel@mander.xyz on 30 Jul 2025 02:05 next collapse

I see a pattern here…

RagingSnarkasm@lemmy.world on 30 Jul 2025 02:40 next collapse

“I’m not a Nazi, but twenty bucks is twenty bucks.”

–Substack, probably

DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social on 30 Jul 2025 06:50 collapse

“I’m also not not a Nazi”- Substack founders, definitely

Paradox@lemdro.id on 30 Jul 2025 02:54 next collapse

Substack just annoying as can be anyway, with the constant spammy pop-ups about subscribed to my newsletter and whatever the hell else. Absolutely atrocious blogging platform

tisktisk@piefed.social on 30 Jul 2025 03:25 collapse

Can't criticize unless an alternative is provided tho, can you?

Paradox@lemdro.id on 30 Jul 2025 03:54 next collapse

Ghost, tumblr, WordPress, any of the self hosted SSGs out there.

iii@mander.xyz on 30 Jul 2025 03:59 next collapse

Jekyll

wizardbeard@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 30 Jul 2025 04:02 next collapse

You absolutely can and should regardless.

tisktisk@piefed.social on 30 Jul 2025 05:03 collapse

I almost fully agree
Idk about 'should' just out of paranoia that I can imagine a case where criticizing without sufficient contrast or a consistent-enough background of otherness, could potentially have unintended consequences or surprisingly negative overall moral impacts
Or maybe just paranoid idek

Passerby6497@lemmy.world on 30 Jul 2025 11:55 next collapse

Lol, I can absolutely call a website (or argument) awful or absolutely moronic without providing an alternative. Especially when we’re talking about Nazi supporters (which substack objectively is and has been for years).

As a wise man once said, I don’t need to be a pilot to know a helicopter doesn’t belong in a tree.

prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone on 30 Jul 2025 12:13 next collapse

Maybe I’m mistaken, but couldn’t you just use like… Fucking SquareSpace or some shit, and just make a blog on your own site?

Guidy@lemmy.world on 30 Jul 2025 12:13 next collapse

Fucking watch me.

Nazis bad. <- note the period that makes that a full sentence.

Don’t use substack. Or Twitter.

null@lemmy.nullspace.lol on 30 Jul 2025 14:27 collapse

Lol what? Are you saying Substack is the only blogging platform that exists?

PattyMcB@lemmy.world on 30 Jul 2025 03:02 next collapse

Hey look at that… actual bad socialists. (As if they’re actual socialists)

individual@toast.ooo on 30 Jul 2025 04:04 next collapse

what are the fine alternatives?

lime@feddit.nu on 30 Jul 2025 06:14 next collapse

a blog

teolan@lemmy.world on 30 Jul 2025 06:27 next collapse

I’ve heard good things about ghost.

cupcakezealot@piefed.blahaj.zone on 30 Jul 2025 16:37 collapse

also buttondown

forrcaho@lemmy.world on 30 Jul 2025 16:42 next collapse

Beehiiv is an option.

InfiniteHench@lemmy.world on 30 Jul 2025 17:27 collapse

I ended the post with a link to Wired about alternatives

MHLoppy@fedia.io on 30 Jul 2025 05:59 next collapse

There is a deep irony covering this by writing about it.. on Substack

TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world on 30 Jul 2025 07:42 collapse

In fairness, what better place is there for Substack users to see it and consider leaving the platform?

XTL@sopuli.xyz on 31 Jul 2025 07:28 collapse

Funnily enough, they might also get censored on many other platforms if they linked or even pointed at an existing nazi blog/site/platform.

interdimensionalmeme@lemmy.ml on 30 Jul 2025 06:50 next collapse

Is there a substack self-hosted replacement

tux0r@feddit.org on 30 Jul 2025 07:21 next collapse

Blogs?

interdimensionalmeme@lemmy.ml on 30 Jul 2025 08:17 collapse

Is substack a list of blog website ?

swelter_spark@reddthat.com on 31 Jul 2025 16:13 collapse

Substack is a blog host.

bigfondue@lemmy.world on 30 Jul 2025 10:35 next collapse

The main benefit of having a substack vs just running some blog software is that substack manages monetization/subscriptions for you. Hosting text-based content is very easy, but getting paid for it isn’t.

Passerby6497@lemmy.world on 30 Jul 2025 11:53 collapse

Yeah, and you just have to sell your soul to the Nazi platform so you can get paid easy.

InfiniteHench@lemmy.world on 30 Jul 2025 17:30 collapse

Ghost can be self-hosted. Even WordPress these days has newsletter and payment systems that sound fairly easy to drop in.

Venus_Ziegenfalle@feddit.org on 30 Jul 2025 06:56 next collapse

Centrists: “Oh so everyone you disagree with is a nazi?”

KingThrillgore@lemmy.ml on 30 Jul 2025 18:05 collapse

Some of them, most are just assholes

glorkon@lemmy.world on 30 Jul 2025 11:12 next collapse

As a German it’s completely mind boggling to me that some societies tolerate an ideology that is responsible for plunging the world into its biggest humane catastrophe (so far), for the sake of free speech. Nazi ideology wants to kill free speech. If you truly want to protect free speech, you have to at least limit it to all the things that do not threaten it.

simsalabim@lemmy.world on 30 Jul 2025 11:35 next collapse

And Nazis still get free public promotion via ARD Sommertalk 😔

BenLeMan@lemmy.world on 30 Jul 2025 12:12 collapse

Hey, at least the music was good.

prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone on 30 Jul 2025 12:11 next collapse

It’s amazing what you can accomplish when you successfully gut public education.

goatmeal@lemmy.zip on 30 Jul 2025 18:04 collapse

what on earth are you talking about?? holocaust instruction is not “gutted,” it increases year over year. the people you imagine are doing this gutting of public education are consistently some of the most vicious advocates for increasing holocaust instruction.

prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone on 30 Jul 2025 19:33 collapse

I’m talking just WW2 history in general, but OK.

I can just speak to US public schools, but ALL education has suffered from the gutting of our public education here, and that includes “holocaust instruction.”

XTL@sopuli.xyz on 31 Jul 2025 07:26 collapse

Looking at how many countries have started to have and even elect literal nazi parties, the education has been failing very widely and for a very long time (since WW2).

Maroon@lemmy.world on 30 Jul 2025 12:13 next collapse

Note that the largest Nazi groups today are in the “allied” nations that “won” WW2.

I read a piece (can’t find the source now, sorry) that blamed this squarely on the lack of education and remorse given to the colonial backdrop in which WW2 was fought.

Most parts of the world view WW2 as very much a European war that was imposed on unwilling global participants. The axis powers lost and Germany has since tried its best to reinvent itself while acknowledging its chequered past (check out: Vergangenheitsbewältigung), but the allied powers failed to recognise their colonial atrocities. For example, British history textbooks will loosely allude to the British empire saying that they were once a dominating global entity, but will make absolutely no mention of the numerous massacres and genocides for which they were responsible.

When wars are framed as competitions rather than tragedies, you will see the emergence of false victors instead of acknowledging lost generations. This directly results in a poor public understanding of how bad ideas can fester and hollow out any society.

floofloof@lemmy.ca on 30 Jul 2025 16:24 collapse

Over the decades since WW2, the popular culture of the allied countries has typically portrayed Nazis as caricatured crazy monsters. They are treated as strange, other, and non-human. This seems to have thoroughly undermined people’s ability to recognize Nazism as a destructive force that lurks in people, whether they’re German or American or any other nationality. Any society has the potential to fall into this. The unreflective complacency of the WW2 victors after defeating Nazis once has led to a complete lack of awareness that it’s an ongoing job to keep your society from falling prey to fascists.

For a while the collective memory of those who lived through the war protected us, but when that generation died off the lessons were forgotten. Some fell into fascism without realizing it because they assumed they were by nature better than Nazis, while others failed to notice the threat until dangerously late.

goatmeal@lemmy.zip on 30 Jul 2025 18:07 next collapse

if we are being completely honest with ourselves, most people believe in free speech only in moderation. nazism is most certainly not the only ideology that sharply reduces free speech.

Bubbey@lemmy.world on 30 Jul 2025 18:11 next collapse

Free speech means free speech. Otherwise you end up in a UK situation, where you can illegally enter without ID, but if you want to complain about someone illegally entering without ID you have to provide your ID to twitter

IndustryStandard@lemmy.world on 30 Jul 2025 20:14 collapse

Germans saying this while their government is one of the biggest advocates for the ongoing genocide in Gaza will never not look stupid.

datavoid@lemmy.ml on 30 Jul 2025 11:28 next collapse

I deleted substack back when I randomly got porn in a push notification. You’d think they would address this - I’m no expert, but this doesn’t seem good for them.

drmoose@lemmy.world on 30 Jul 2025 15:37 collapse

Oh no, how did you ever recover from that?

Lemminary@lemmy.world on 30 Jul 2025 16:21 next collapse

The fuck?

datavoid@lemmy.ml on 30 Jul 2025 17:32 collapse

I’m still having nightmares :(

heliophane@lemmy.ml on 30 Jul 2025 16:33 next collapse

It’s a shame there are some people I like on there. I can live perfectly fine without ettingermentum though.

cupcakezealot@piefed.blahaj.zone on 30 Jul 2025 16:35 next collapse

if i had a nickel for every time substack promoted a nazi blog.......

... i'd have a shitload of nickels.

xinit@lemmy.coffee on 30 Jul 2025 17:59 collapse

Enough to put them all in the toe of a sock and swing it at some Nazis.

burgerpocalyse@lemmy.world on 30 Jul 2025 16:43 next collapse

dip dip dip just got a phone notif, Top Ten Things That Didn’t Happen But If They Did Happen It Was Good

Bubbey@lemmy.world on 30 Jul 2025 18:09 next collapse

My only cursory knowledge about substack is that if someone has one they’re insufferable. Have yet to be wrong.

Buddahriffic@lemmy.world on 30 Jul 2025 19:51 collapse

Wtf even is substack anyways?

_thisdot@infosec.pub on 30 Jul 2025 20:08 next collapse

Kinda like Medium or WordPress (the .com variant). Gives you your own subdomain and lets you blog. Their policy is that they absolutely will not editorialise anything. It’s used by a lot of reputable good bloggers too

InfiniteHench@lemmy.world on 01 Aug 2025 01:27 collapse

Unfortunately popular newsletter service that also puts your issues online to look like a blog. Has a lot of startup capital behind it so they’ve been paying some of their largest writers on top of subscriber revenue.

Big “marketplace of ideas” idiots who have allowed a lot of white supremacist and - as this and other situations exemplify - straight up Nazi content.