At 50$ a pop it’s 40 000 000$
Grifters gonna grift !
Sometimes I hate that I have morals stopping me from exploiting those morons.
thatKamGuy@sh.itjust.works
on 22 Nov 14:20
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It’s worse than you think; it’s $50/month!
Now part of the problem is we don’t know the average membership length, and it’s further complicated by the fact that the Tate brothers ran the ‘school’ like a pyramid scheme where enrolling another member earned you a kick-back (which is why so many random channels popped up a few years back sharing clips).
So pulling random numbers out of my arse, if the average membership period was ~6 months and they had ~30% operating expenses (servers, bandwidth, kickbacks etc.) they could have netted ~$168m from this scheme.
I too, share your self-loathing in my morals preventing me from exploiting these absolute morons.
skillissuer@discuss.tchncs.de
on 23 Nov 12:43
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it’s closer to 100k, and it’s 50$/month so totals closer to 5M/month
PlainSimpleGarak@lemmings.world
on 22 Nov 21:02
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Remember Trump University? Imagine putting that on your resume.
It’s good that people are able to get out of it, though. How’s he doing nowadays?
ChronosTriggerWarning@lemmy.world
on 22 Nov 13:12
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I talked my then 17yo nephew away from the whole Tate/Peterson/Rogan sphere a couple years ago. It’s really sad how few quality role models there are for young men these days, and these shills are happily filling the spaces.
LustyArgonianMana@lemmy.world
on 22 Nov 20:52
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Whoo, which would be more embarrassing? Being exposed by this leak or the Ashley Madison one. I would love to see a list of email addresses that show up in both datasets.
fmstrat@lemmy.nowsci.com
on 22 Nov 13:39
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HaveIBeenPwned has the list. Could one-by-one check?
pewgar_seemsimandroid@lemmy.blahaj.zone
on 22 Nov 15:55
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mozilla moni- just kidding for non Mozilla super fans.
One of the takeaways of AM being hacked was that a ton of accounts were fake, and existed to create the idea of a busy site, to add social proof and validity-by-numbers.
The AM hacks were like decade and change ago, and Tate’s fanbase is mostly younger. I’m sure there is some overlap but probably small.
cabron_offsets@lemmy.world
on 22 Nov 12:45
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I take as a positive point that I had no idea who this Andrew taint guy was before the he was arrested or whatever the fuck.
ThrowawayPermanente@sh.itjust.works
on 22 Nov 12:45
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Good looking? Subjective.
Able-bodied? He’s more fit than most.
sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works
on 22 Nov 18:31
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Right, but when I hear “able-bodied,” there’s a pretty strong implication that they’ll actually use that body for something productive. I think your average construction worker is more “able-bodied” than Tate, Tate just looks like a gym queen.
gcheliotis@lemmy.world
on 22 Nov 15:16
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Omg 800,000 people (presumably mostly young men) signed up for that bullshit? Have we failed so many that they will seek help with the top douchebag himself?
SpacetimeMachine@lemmy.world
on 22 Nov 15:31
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Yes, we have failed far more than that.
TexMexBazooka@lemm.ee
on 22 Nov 16:51
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There’s very much a vacuum for what healthy masculinity looks like, and shitheads like Tate are filling that void
Knowledge and unconditional love should do the trick 🤞I have found that the men most prone to this are men with a chronic lack of love and self-esteem.
I don’t even think it’s Andrew Tate specifically and I think that’s a big problem.
I’m in my early 30s and grew up being ‘the tech generation’, adults marvelled at our simple abilities. Now I see 20 something’s and even teens and they’ve surpassed us in every way, not so much in technical skill but they live in social media.
Smart watches, tik toks, face time and yada yada. It seems like a borderline gamble what will tickle their fancy or even what the algorithm will just repeatedly shove down their throat until they ‘like it’.
I guess what I’m saying is I think the reliance and love of technology is what pushed a lot of these young guys into listening to this fucking clown as opposed to straight up ideology.
I am not sure that technology alone is to blame. But I have been thinking for a while now that recommendation algorithms should be open, scrutinized, and regulated even.
BigDanishGuy@sh.itjust.works
on 23 Nov 12:45
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According the “hustler’s university 4.0” website you can get in for as little as 49USD (which is a steal, when the posted before price is 147USD)
Imagine scamming 8x10^5 for just 50USD each, I mean it’s not like a considerable criminal investigation will get started for 50 bucks, but the chinless douche is walking away with 40million, from that scam alone. And I’ll bet that there will be special courses with an additional charge, as well as merch and PPV webinars. Safe to say it’s not just 40million Tate has scammed kids for.
umbraroze@lemmy.world
on 23 Nov 13:18
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It’s apparently $50 a month, but based on one recent video from a guy who looked into this, there’s apparently a hard sell to “commit” to the program for a year, and if you do commit, it won’t let you cancel or refund, because you committed to the program, bro, that’s a sacred vow, bro, you can’t violate that, bro.
Ooph. I guess we can get really dismayed at this, or maybe we should just think that given his infamy it’s only natural he’s able to monetize it, one way or another. So many influencers produce content that is on the face of it of very little value. Granted, not so many are making a career out of promoting the most toxic aspects of (so-called) masculinity. Even Jordan Peterson has redeeming qualities compared to this. Of course that’s a low bar. A low bar that seemingly many men are happy to pass and fork money for in the hopes of bettering themselves.
SplashJackson@lemmy.ca
on 22 Nov 15:37
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Who is this Andrew Tate guy? By his name, I can only assume he is some kind of potato
Matty@lemmy.autism.place
on 22 Nov 15:42
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He’s one of those “Alpha Male” influencer who’s extremely misogynistic
Like old times, our young men and their young men decimate each other, then they go murder and rape whoever they can on the other side. Make wars great again!
Duamerthrax@lemmy.world
on 22 Nov 16:26
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Irrelevant. Tate doesn’t just want sex. He wants ownership of women and a cult following of sad, little men. He’s methods and motives are exactly the same as cult leaders.
sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works
on 22 Nov 16:33
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800,000 people fell for that scam? Fuck me, that’s a lot of stupidity…
This George Carlin bit is relevant.
Yup, was one of the first bits I thought of too…
I still paraphrase his “your stuff is shit, my shit is stuff” to this day… 😅
We really need someone to fill the massive shoes he left behind - an individual able to call out all the egregious bullshit.
Bill Burr comes close to George’s savagery 😅 ( just my opinion )
i think registration and actually sending any money will be two separate steps, but it is still lot of dumb people.
Maybe most of these are bots? And maybe paid by the owner to generate traffic?
People is stupid
It’s like eight whole megastupid
8 magastupids of emails
At 50$ a pop it’s 40 000 000$ Grifters gonna grift ! Sometimes I hate that I have morals stopping me from exploiting those morons.
It’s worse than you think; it’s $50/month!
Now part of the problem is we don’t know the average membership length, and it’s further complicated by the fact that the Tate brothers ran the ‘school’ like a pyramid scheme where enrolling another member earned you a kick-back (which is why so many random channels popped up a few years back sharing clips).
So pulling random numbers out of my arse, if the average membership period was ~6 months and they had ~30% operating expenses (servers, bandwidth, kickbacks etc.) they could have netted ~$168m from this scheme.
I too, share your self-loathing in my morals preventing me from exploiting these absolute morons.
it’s closer to 100k, and it’s 50$/month so totals closer to 5M/month
Remember Trump University? Imagine putting that on your resume.
800.000 people?
Talking bullshit seems to pay very good
<edit> yes not everyone was paying, but still: </edit>
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My friend’s brother almost fell victim to this cult. If he’s anything to go by most members will be vulnerable idiots.
It’s good that people are able to get out of it, though. How’s he doing nowadays?
I talked my then 17yo nephew away from the whole Tate/Peterson/Rogan sphere a couple years ago. It’s really sad how few quality role models there are for young men these days, and these shills are happily filling the spaces.
Thank you
It’s interesting, the first time I saw a picture of Tate I only saw cringe, and that has not changed.
You’re not impressed by that strong manly jawline?
I’m sure there are people who look like Tate but are not complete assholes.
Oh absolutely, but I haven’t met any one dressing like him who I have liked
We have a friend who looks a ton like him when he mean-mugs, but is nicer than all of us combined, which just makes his Tate face funnier.
My guy looks like a mudokon (insulting for them, I know…)
Data brokers will now have a new set of identities for Insecure White Male with No Financial Literacy.
Don’t forget easily manipulated
Thats the important part ;)
and probably broke, considering that these are specifically those who missed payments
That’s too bad.
Time to see if people I suspect of being on it were on it.
HaveIBeenPwned has the list.
Whoo, which would be more embarrassing? Being exposed by this leak or the Ashley Madison one. I would love to see a list of email addresses that show up in both datasets.
HaveIBeenPwned has the list. Could one-by-one check?
mozilla moni- just kidding for non Mozilla super fans.
One of the takeaways of AM being hacked was that a ton of accounts were fake, and existed to create the idea of a busy site, to add social proof and validity-by-numbers.
The AM hacks were like decade and change ago, and Tate’s fanbase is mostly younger. I’m sure there is some overlap but probably small.
I take as a positive point that I had no idea who this Andrew taint guy was before the he was arrested or whatever the fuck.
Did they steal his accreditation?
A giant hack. Wow.
Read the article, it’s so much better than the headline lets on. Trolled him, email addresses, full forum and chat content, etc.
It’s hard not to feel bad for aimless young men who get tricked by this guy.
You mean misogynists? I tend to not feel bad for misogynists.
I love that 5 men downvoted you. How dare you have morals lmfao. I appreciate it though.
You don’t know that. You don’t even know if it was done by a human being.
“Our article is boring. How do we get more people to read it?”
“Put a good looking able bodied bearded white guy on the cover.”
Wut?
The article is about Andrew Tate. Guess whose face is on the cover? Andrew Tate’s face.
I’m a dude, so maybe I’m way off base here, but I don’t see “good looking able bodied” in that face.
Good looking? Subjective. Able-bodied? He’s more fit than most.
Right, but when I hear “able-bodied,” there’s a pretty strong implication that they’ll actually use that body for something productive. I think your average construction worker is more “able-bodied” than Tate, Tate just looks like a gym queen.
Omg 800,000 people (presumably mostly young men) signed up for that bullshit? Have we failed so many that they will seek help with the top douchebag himself?
Yes, we have failed far more than that.
There’s very much a vacuum for what healthy masculinity looks like, and shitheads like Tate are filling that void
I think you’re spot on.
It makes me sad, especially knowing my son is going to face the same propaganda. I just hope to arm him with the knowledge to see past it.
Knowledge and unconditional love should do the trick 🤞I have found that the men most prone to this are men with a chronic lack of love and self-esteem.
I don’t even think it’s Andrew Tate specifically and I think that’s a big problem.
I’m in my early 30s and grew up being ‘the tech generation’, adults marvelled at our simple abilities. Now I see 20 something’s and even teens and they’ve surpassed us in every way, not so much in technical skill but they live in social media.
Smart watches, tik toks, face time and yada yada. It seems like a borderline gamble what will tickle their fancy or even what the algorithm will just repeatedly shove down their throat until they ‘like it’.
I guess what I’m saying is I think the reliance and love of technology is what pushed a lot of these young guys into listening to this fucking clown as opposed to straight up ideology.
I am not sure that technology alone is to blame. But I have been thinking for a while now that recommendation algorithms should be open, scrutinized, and regulated even.
According the “hustler’s university 4.0” website you can get in for as little as 49USD (which is a steal, when the posted before price is 147USD)
Imagine scamming 8x10^5 for just 50USD each, I mean it’s not like a considerable criminal investigation will get started for 50 bucks, but the chinless douche is walking away with 40million, from that scam alone. And I’ll bet that there will be special courses with an additional charge, as well as merch and PPV webinars. Safe to say it’s not just 40million Tate has scammed kids for.
It’s apparently $50 a month, but based on one recent video from a guy who looked into this, there’s apparently a hard sell to “commit” to the program for a year, and if you do commit, it won’t let you cancel or refund, because you committed to the program, bro, that’s a sacred vow, bro, you can’t violate that, bro.
Ooph. I guess we can get really dismayed at this, or maybe we should just think that given his infamy it’s only natural he’s able to monetize it, one way or another. So many influencers produce content that is on the face of it of very little value. Granted, not so many are making a career out of promoting the most toxic aspects of (so-called) masculinity. Even Jordan Peterson has redeeming qualities compared to this. Of course that’s a low bar. A low bar that seemingly many men are happy to pass and fork money for in the hopes of bettering themselves.
Who is this Andrew Tate guy? By his name, I can only assume he is some kind of potato
He’s one of those “Alpha Male” influencer who’s extremely misogynistic
This guy sounds like an incel. Don’t potatoes have sex?
We could also just have more wars so young men get killed off in swathes every decade or so.
Like old times, our young men and their young men decimate each other, then they go murder and rape whoever they can on the other side. Make wars great again!
Irrelevant. Tate doesn’t just want sex. He wants ownership of women and a cult following of sad, little men. He’s methods and motives are exactly the same as cult leaders.
One freebie on your 18th birthday.
That is correct.
No notes.
step 1: convince people to pay you 50$ for access to your deranged ramblings.
there is no step 2
Wonder how many were bots, like Ashley Madison, that exist to pump numbers and increase engagement
I really, really hope they used a backdoor.
800,000 lusers*
Jesus Christ he has 800,000 users. That’s so depressing.
This is a scammer’s goldmine.
TIL this fuckface has an online university