PSA: Apple will suck you into Liquid Glass
from kingofras@lemmy.world to apple_enthusiast@lemmy.world on 20 Sep 17:12
https://lemmy.world/post/36208683

PSA: It is important to read all the software update buttons. Even if you ignore the first big Tahoe ad (same will apply to pads and phones), and just choose to “update”, the upgrade to Tahoe is checked by default and the button will read “Upgrade”.

This disingenuous practice which Apple has been practicing for years now, has resulted in many non-consentual OS upgrade.

The roll back process, especially without proper backup can be next to impossible, and the Liquid Glass UI roll out is just latest in failures of a company that false advertised AI, lies in court and dines with dictators and gifts them gold.

On a conspiratorial side note, this company is now fully Fourth Reich compliant, so careful installing anything new that might open up new backdoors.

/rant

#apple_enthusiast

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stoly@lemmy.world on 20 Sep 17:24 next collapse

I don’t understand the issue. Apple has changed their interface and that is part of an update that just released. There’s no being suckered or swindled into something.

kingofras@lemmy.world on 20 Sep 17:38 collapse

This is about the misleading “Update Now” button being an actual upgrade button unless you click the (i) first and uncheck the Tahoe upgrade.

You sound like someone who wanted to upgrade. If you don’t want to Apple tricks the hasty clickers into accidentally upgrading and has done this for years, except this time you are forced a GUI change that is still pretty beta and not for everybody, so actually getting the user’s consent matters more.

stoly@lemmy.world on 20 Sep 17:44 collapse

I still don’t get it. Just don’t update if you don’t want to.

kingofras@lemmy.world on 20 Sep 17:55 collapse

I’m not sure how to explain it better.

I want to update (the progression of going up a minor version in the software business. E.g.: 15.6.1 to 15.7).

When a MacOS user tries to do that, Apple tricks them into upgrading (the term for going up major version. E.g. 15.6.1 > 16.0), which pushes people into Liquid Glass, while they explicitly tried to steer away from it by choosing to update, not upgrade.

That’s what this PSA is about. Does that make sense?

stoly@lemmy.world on 22 Sep 15:41 collapse

It doesn’t make sense because nobody understands why you hate liquid glass and are taking it personally. You have to explain that part first. If we could agree with you that it is bad, then we could agree with you the forcing it is bad.

veeesix@lemmy.ca on 20 Sep 17:31 next collapse

I’ve been using it since launch and honestly it’s pretty decent. As usual all the noise is coming from the vocal minority. There are some new navigational habits I need to build and weird quirks I expect to get ironed out over the next month, but overall I’m having a good experience.

[deleted] on 20 Sep 17:52 next collapse

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that_leaflet@lemmy.world on 20 Sep 18:03 next collapse

iOS 26 does have some nice UX improvements (I like that popups happen right by the buttons that activated them and the new camera app), but it’s undeniable that Liquid Glass has made legibility worse and more inconsistent.

And I don’t think it’s valid to say “oh it’s a new release, they’ll iron things out later”. We should expect quality releases from one of the richest companies on Earth with some of the best engineers. Apple did not have to release Liquid Glass in its current state.

veeesix@lemmy.ca on 20 Sep 18:08 collapse

They’ve been more receptive to public criticism after releases lately, so I’m optimistic that we’ll see changes.

th3dogcow@lemmy.world on 20 Sep 21:54 collapse

Definitely some quirks. In safari, you used to be able to long hold on the tab button, so the popup menu appears, and continue to select a menu item just by dragging your finger. Now you have to lift and tap. But this old gesture still works on the bookmarks menu. And works in other apps like reminders. There are infuriating inconsistencies tbh.

Eat_Your_Paisley@lemmy.world on 20 Sep 18:16 next collapse

There is much to criticize with Apple but this is reaching

kingofras@lemmy.world on 20 Sep 18:19 collapse

The fact they try to bypass user consent is reaching?

Or the fact that Tim Cook’s only innovation in the last year is sucking up to fascism?

Eat_Your_Paisley@lemmy.world on 20 Sep 18:20 collapse

There’s a check box here that gives you the choice of 15.x or 26.

kingofras@lemmy.world on 20 Sep 18:23 collapse

Yes and the 15.x choice will automatically divert to 26 if you don’t take extra steps. See my other comment. Sorry I didn’t explain it very well in the OP

Reverendender@sh.itjust.works on 20 Sep 19:26 next collapse

Liquid Glass is gimmicky, but are you contending that it’s so bad that it will necessitate rolling back the OS?

zewm@lemmy.world on 20 Sep 21:26 collapse

I wasn’t up to date with update news. I updating my iPhone to iOS26 without knowing about glass.

It is such an eyesore to me that I am heavily contemplating moving back to Android. If I decide to do it, I will also be exiting the entire ecosystem system that I have. 2x iPads, watch and MacBook.

I’m shocked this theme / UX was greenlit. It is a really bad look for Apple. I wish they at least gave you an option to use something else.

nokturne213@sopuli.xyz on 20 Sep 20:04 next collapse

The roll back process, especially without proper backup can be next to impossible

With as easy as backups are to do with macOS you should have at least a weekly backup, if not the one you performed before you started the update/upgrade? And unlike an iPhone/ipad when you wipe a Mac it reverts to the initial os that shipped on the device.

heavyboots@lemmy.ml on 21 Sep 07:48 collapse

You have to have set something up differently from me because on my machines it was a separate install from everything else down at the bottom of the updates page. And yes I did it. No major issues so far, although I wouldn’t have jumped in for a long old time if I still used Adobe products regularly.