Apple Intelligence is Useless
from macstainless@discuss.tchncs.de to apple_enthusiast@lemmy.world on 12 May 21:25
https://discuss.tchncs.de/post/36246687

The rushed launch of Apple Intelligence was a debacle, reminding Apple it should focus on readiness rather than quickly appeasing shareholders.

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loaf@sh.itjust.works on 12 May 21:29 next collapse

It’s somehow less useful than Siri, which… fuuuuuck.

macstainless@discuss.tchncs.de on 12 May 21:45 next collapse

Right? Instead of “I can show you some web results on your phone” every time it’s now “Would you like to ask ChatGPT?” every time. Barf.

loaf@sh.itjust.works on 13 May 02:55 collapse

“I’m sorry, I didn’t get that!”

Rentlar@lemmy.ca on 12 May 21:56 next collapse

Next version of Apple Intelligence: Rollback to Siri, but with “I Am Genius.” added to the end of every answer.

NutinButNet@hilariouschaos.com on 12 May 22:16 collapse

Seriously. I used to actually use Siri.

I realized this yesterday when I went through the manual process of unlocking my phone and looking for another LLM app to ask a question.

I don’t even trust Siri anymore to open an app.

Don’t get me started on music. I used to be able to say “Hey Siri, play this whole album” or “play that song” and it would play the whole album.

She’s absolutely useless.

macstainless@discuss.tchncs.de on 12 May 23:15 next collapse

Same!!! I used to tell people that Siri was good at what it’s intended to do. Ask it to set a reminder or timer or ask a basic question and it’s good.

But then Alexa came along and changed the paradigm for what voice assistants could do and so the questions to Siri became more complex. And it fell over quickly.

Even today I asked it “does HomeKit support sprinkler systems?” And I got the dreaded “I can send you web results if you ask from your iPhone.”

Completely useless.

DBT@lemmy.world on 12 May 23:53 collapse

Don’t get me started on music. I used to be able to say “Hey Siri, play this whole album” or “play that song” and it would play the whole album.

What? I literally did this an hour ago in the car.

“Siri, play (artist name)’s latest album.”

*proceeds to play requested album

Am I missing something?

NutinButNet@hilariouschaos.com on 13 May 00:53 next collapse

I meant like when there’s a random song playing from shuffle, I used to be able to tell Siri “play this album” or “what album is this song from” and she would play the full album or tell me what album the song came from. No longer knows how to do that and tells me something about not knowing how to do that.

osprior@lemmy.world on 13 May 13:16 collapse

Works fine if you have Apple Music, without it Siri just can’t do anything anymore even though it used to work fine with local device music.

PunkRockSportsFan@fanaticus.social on 12 May 21:38 next collapse

Apple is terrible. The ai is doing what it’s supposed to: spying on its users for its real masters.

Ditch your Apple products before they get you sent to El Salvador

lung@lemmy.world on 12 May 21:45 next collapse

Well for once I have to stand up for apple. What makes them different in the AI space is that the inference actually happens on device and is very privacy focused. Probably why it sucks

PunkRockSportsFan@fanaticus.social on 12 May 21:53 next collapse

It sucks for a lot of reasons but mostly because ai is always a “black box” (deep seek the exception) with “magic proprietary code”. You think “Tim Apple” isn’t working with the trump admin to id people for El Salvador?

T156@lemmy.world on 13 May 04:19 next collapse

Yes, but in this case, you can see what the model is doing, and it is running on your actual computer. Whereas a lot of LLM providers tend to run their models on their own server farms today, partly because it’s prohibitively expensive to run a big model on your machine (Deepseek’s famous R1 model needs at least a hundred GBs of VRAM, or about 20 GPUs) and partly so that they have more control over the thing.

AI isn’t a black box in the sense that it is a mystery machine that could do anything. It’s a black box in the sense that we don’t know exactly how it’s working, with which particular probability vector/tensor is responsible for what, though we have a fairly good general idea of what goes on.

It’s like a brain in that sense. We don’t know which exact nerve-circuits do what, but we have a fairly good general idea of how brains work. We don’t think that if we talk to someone, they’re transmitting everything you say to the hivemind, because brains can’t do that.

fuckwit_mcbumcrumble@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 13 May 04:20 collapse

Being open source doesn’t magically make it good. There’s a ton of open source software that straight up sucks.

Cyberflunk@lemmy.world on 12 May 21:55 collapse

Nailed it. I’ve tried taking notification contexts and generally seeing how hard it is. Their foundational model, I think is 4bit quantized, 3billion parameter model.

So I loaded up llama, phi, and picollm to run some unscientific tests. Honestly they had way better results than I expected. Phi and llama handled notification summaries (I modeled the context window, nothing official) and both performed great. I have no idea wtf AFM is doing, but it’s awful.

macstainless@discuss.tchncs.de on 12 May 21:46 collapse

Boiling the planet just for this… thing. Freaking awful.

homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world on 12 May 22:10 next collapse

Well . . . yeah. All generative AI is awful. It’s a scam wrapped in hype surrounded by an insult.

macstainless@discuss.tchncs.de on 12 May 23:12 next collapse

💯 The best way it was described to me was “it’s a parlor trick.” And I’ve started to use that phrasing ever since.

msage@programming.dev on 13 May 09:32 collapse
alexc@lemmy.world on 12 May 23:41 next collapse

I have a feeling that’s how Douglas Adams may have described it

doodledup@lemmy.world on 13 May 03:30 next collapse

I use it all the time

TheFunkyMonk@lemmy.world on 13 May 06:59 collapse

I do too, as someone who understands what it actually is, what it’s useful for, and what its limitations are. The issue is every company shoving it down users’ throats as future AGI/something LLMs will never achieve.

doodledup@lemmy.world on 14 May 19:22 collapse

I feel like most of the idiots who say AI is trash use it as a Google alternative, which is it not for.

markovs_gun@lemmy.world on 13 May 10:24 collapse

I wouldn’t say that. It’s a tool like anything else. You don’t say a hammer is useless because it’s really bad at driving screws no matter how much your terrible coworker keeps insisting that she just hits the screws in with the hammer and it’s fine. I learned programming very quickly with ChatGPT and I use LLMs all the time for help with programming. They’re also good for proofreading, learning new languages, and a few other things. The hype is exaggerated but these things are quite useful when used correctly.

homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world on 13 May 12:59 next collapse

Username checks out! :D Yeah, it has some narrow use cases which aren’t the worst thing ever. If it wasn’t destroying the entire tech industry and to some extent the global economy with utter lies and deceit it might be kind of okay sometimes.

PTSDwarrior@lemmy.ml on 25 May 05:54 collapse

It’s the only thing it is helpful for. Just for coding homework, and nothing else.

Flamekebab@piefed.social on 12 May 23:18 next collapse

I've yet to actually find out what it's useful to me for. I don't need shit synopses of things.

Mpeach45@lemmy.world on 13 May 00:24 next collapse

Guess I was hallucinating when I asked it to turn a rambling, amateurishly written game account into a saga in the style of heroic poetry…

and it got it. About 85%, with only a few clunkers that needed edits.

B0rax@feddit.org on 13 May 07:42 next collapse

Is this just an opinion post or am I missing something?

Apple intelligence does have some useful things, like showing a summary of each mail or message.

But I will not argue here. Nothing is as black and white as you make it sound.

scarabic@lemmy.world on 13 May 17:04 collapse

quickly

That’s the problem. It wasn’t quick. If it had been released quickly and been a failure, that would be one thing. But to hype it and hype it and pre-sell it into new devices for 9 months only THEN to release a failure… now that’s fucked up. Apple hardware has been crushing it for years. Software is a mess. Services couldn’t piss themselves if their pants were on fire.