My experience switching from Android to iPhone
from cloudless@lemmy.cafe to apple_enthusiast@lemmy.world on 30 Jul 2024 10:58
https://lemmy.cafe/post/6719528

After spending over a decade with various Android phones, I finally made the switch to an iPhone. Here’s why I made the switch and what I’ve discovered since.

The Struggles with Samsung/Android

  1. Slow Shutter on Samsung Flagships: One of my biggest gripes with Samsung’s flagship phones has been the slow shutter and shutter lag. Trying to capture a moving subjects often resulted in blurry photos or missed shots entirely. This has been an issue with Samsung phones for many years.

  2. Google’s Service Abandonment: Google has a notorious history of abandoning services. The most recent one being the Podcasts app. The podcast experience on YouTube Music is just terrible.

  3. Hardware Design: The Samsung S24 Ultra has sharp corners that make it uncomfortable to hold. The Pixel 8 phones have issues with connectivity and overheating. The S24+ comes with an inferior Exynos processor.

  4. Performance: No matter how fast the hardware is, Android phones always seem to slow down and stutter after a few months of use. It’s like they age in dog years. (My most recent Samsung phone was the S23+, and it already started lagging).

  5. Apps: Android apps have an inconsistent look and feel. It’s like a patchwork quilt made by someone who doesn’t know how to sew. Also, a lot of Android apps require excessive permissions.

  6. Disaster: A Samsung update once made my phone unbootable. I had to do a full reset and lost some data. People said I should have made a backup before the update, but Android doesn’t provide an easy way to completely backup the phone. That was the last straw.

The iPhone Revelation

  1. Shortcuts: The Shortcuts app on iPhone is a game-changer. It automates tasks in ways I never thought possible.

  2. Face ID: Face ID on the iPhone is leagues ahead of Samsung’s version and even better than Touch ID. It’s fast, reliable, and just works. With the amount of unlocks I need everyday, this turns out to be more impactful than I expected.

  3. Files App: The Files app is actually useful, and it has built-in support for Windows file shares.

  4. Look & Feel: Everything on iOS feels smoother and more premium. The animations, the UI design – it’s all just so polished.

  5. Audio: It’s much easier to select audio output in-app when connected to multiple Bluetooth devices and AirPlay.

  6. Driving: CarPlay is a joy to use compared to Android Auto. Plus, Apple Maps has better voice directions.

  7. Emulators: Emulators are now possible to use on iPhone without jailbreaking.

Switching to iPhone has been a breath of fresh air. While Android gave me more freedom and customizations. The consistency, reliability, and overall experience of iOS have won me over.

What was your experience switching to/from “the dark side”?

#apple_enthusiast

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baggachipz@sh.itjust.works on 30 Jul 2024 11:13 next collapse

My experience mirrors yours.

The realization that for most apps, the iPhone version clearly has more effort put into it.

Seeing what an app ghetto the Play store is; they let anything on there and it’s scams galore.

Janky UI, as you said.

The final straw for me, though, was phone calls not ringing on the phone and going straight to VM. This was on a “pure” Google phone using Google Fi. When a phone can’t even act like a phone anymore, I’m out.

At my age, I don’t have time or desire to fiddle with shit constantly. I want it to Just Work.

cloudless@lemmy.cafe on 30 Jul 2024 11:23 collapse

for most apps, the iPhone version clearly has more effort put into it.

Even Google Maps work better on iOS!!

At my age, I don’t have time or desire to fiddle with shit constantly.

Yeah I used to install custom ROMS on my Android phones. Android has more customizations, but I would rather use a design that works well out of the box.

ReallyActuallyFrankenstein@lemmynsfw.com on 30 Jul 2024 12:47 collapse

Even Google Maps work better on iOS!!

Really? I find that Android Google Maps is far better, at least through Android Auto. Showing current speed + speed limit icons while driving is a big one. Android Auto allows pinch zooming while Apple CarPlay Google Maps has 2000-era “zoom in and out buttons” only. I believe Android also shows tolls for alternate routes as well.

cloudless@lemmy.cafe on 30 Jul 2024 12:52 collapse

Google Maps on CarPlay shows current speed and speed limit too.

On my CarPlay implementation, Google Maps has a better layout, button size etc compared to the Android Auto one.

There are so many kinds of display configurations with car manufacturers, so I guess it is down to the implementation and personal preferences.

ReallyActuallyFrankenstein@lemmynsfw.com on 30 Jul 2024 12:58 collapse

Oh, ok - my mistake then. I have tried both on two cars and thought that was normal.

Tagger@lemmy.world on 30 Jul 2024 11:22 next collapse

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PerogiBoi@lemmy.ca on 30 Jul 2024 11:51 collapse

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Tagger@lemmy.world on 30 Jul 2024 12:31 next collapse

Okay then …

Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 30 Jul 2024 15:58 collapse

hahaha goteeem

verdantbanana@lemmy.world on 30 Jul 2024 11:23 next collapse

file manager ruins any apple experience

cloudless@lemmy.cafe on 30 Jul 2024 11:27 collapse

I thought I would be bothered by it. But now that iOS Files app has integration with iCloud and Windows shares, I don’t really miss the Android file management too much.

It does take an extra step to “import” files into certain apps, but at the same time I like this better than Android spyware apps accessing nearly everything in the Android file system.

PerogiBoi@lemmy.ca on 30 Jul 2024 11:50 next collapse

I don’t think people should be downvoting you for your own personal lived experience and opinions but people be tribal about which tech company they like their black mirrors from.

I had the same switch as you, diehard android fan for several years but eventually switch to iPhone because the user experience is consistent. I don’t want to be on my phone a lot so I appreciate how smooth everything is on IPhone. I pull it out, do what I need to do, then put it away.

cloudless@lemmy.cafe on 30 Jul 2024 12:12 collapse

Yeah I’m not even an Android hater. I am still considering buying an Android tablet. I wish people who disagree would just voice out their opinion for discussion, instead of just downvoting.

peo@feddit.it on 30 Jul 2024 15:05 collapse

File app has Nextcloud integration , too

Tywele@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 31 Jul 2024 13:28 collapse

It does? Might have to try that.

Grandwolf319@sh.itjust.works on 30 Jul 2024 12:14 next collapse

I tried going to android, got a Samsung galaxy s5 way back. I couldn’t believe how shitty it was, it constantly tripped over itself and felt like a very old laptop.

Some told me that I would have to remove all the bloatware. Kind of defeats the purpose of a phone imo, the whole point is that it’s a convenient computer, if I want full customization there are other devices out there.

cloudless@lemmy.cafe on 30 Jul 2024 12:18 next collapse

Removing bloatware is mostly placebo effect. Most bloatware take up some storage space but don’t really affect the performance or stability of the phone.

Grandwolf319@sh.itjust.works on 30 Jul 2024 12:21 collapse

Yeah exactly. Why spend energy on a phone that might be good if you spend time on it. Just feels like a bad consumer product with missed opportunities.

TrickDacy@lemmy.world on 30 Jul 2024 13:02 collapse

Bloatware is the point of a phone? Do you have any inkling how that sounds? Sounds like you don’t know what bloatware is, at minimum

Grandwolf319@sh.itjust.works on 30 Jul 2024 13:07 next collapse

What are you talking about? I’m a software dev so I understand bad software practices (or at least my employer thinks I do)

[deleted] on 30 Jul 2024 13:15 collapse

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Grandwolf319@sh.itjust.works on 30 Jul 2024 13:19 collapse

I don’t have to convince a random person on the internet, was just giving my 2 cents.

TrickDacy@lemmy.world on 30 Jul 2024 13:30 collapse

And I was trying to either criticize a terrible point or have you correct me if I got it wrong. Another user corrected me. But yeah apple is not immune to bloatware, and I’d bet you cannot even remove it on their devices. Since prevention of choice is the most key part of the entire business model

deranger@sh.itjust.works on 30 Jul 2024 13:20 collapse

That’s the exact opposite of what was said. Convenience is the point of a phone; having to debloat is not convenient. A phone without bloat is more convenient.

TrickDacy@lemmy.world on 30 Jul 2024 13:24 collapse

It was confusingly written but yeah I can see that was the point now. Funny to me though that the implication is that only apple has discovered the perfect set of software for a phone and either none of it is bloat, or somehow bloat doesn’t matter if they do it.

ramble81@lemm.ee on 30 Jul 2024 12:16 next collapse

For me add the fact that the AirTag network is vastly larger and more mature than Tile or another other service. And Apple Pay works better* and I was sold

* anecdotal personal experience, ymmv

sverit@lemmy.ml on 01 Aug 2024 01:16 collapse

That has changed with Google’s “Find my device” network since android has a worldwide market share of over 70%.

specialseaweed@sh.itjust.works on 30 Jul 2024 12:22 next collapse

I got a 15 pro this year. This is my first apple phone.

I agree with your Android “struggle” list completely and would add that every single model I ever owned (especially the Google phones) had some unbelievable hardware issue that made using the phone a maddening experience. From calling that wouldn’t work at all to black screen on wakeup that wouldn’t go away, every time I bought a new phone it felt like the timer had begun on finding what new exciting awful hardware bug was going to present itself and whether Google would warranty replace it.

I agree with most of your iphone revelation comments. Face ID is miles better than anything I ever experienced on Android. Look and feel is definitely better. The audio switching is as easy as it gets. Carplay is… fine. I don’t like the work flow better and some of the decisions are weird when moving from app to app within apps, but I’m used to them now and don’t see them as often.

What I disagree about:

  • Shortcuts is a shadow of what I could do with Tasker. It’s like eating baby food after having a Michelin rated meal. It’s fine. It’s not the end of the world and Shortcuts covers the use cases of most things, but man it was jarring to see what it couldn’t do when compared to Tasker.
  • Apple Maps sucks and boy I’ve tried.
  • Comparing emulation is crazy talk. There’s a billion emulators available on Android and Apple doesn’t have what Android had a decade ago.

What I like about apple that you didn’t mention:

  • Integration of apple stuff: it all works out of the box as you’d expect. This wasn’t always the case with Android and having it all just work is pretty great.
  • Apple stores are cool for getting stuff fixed quick. Kid broke their screen and we had it swapped in an hour. No calling around to see if my local shops had my Android phone screen in stock.

What I hate about apple that you didn’t mention:

  • No custom launchers. I HATE IT I HATE IT I HATE IT. I can’t believe people put up with this shit.
  • Apple people and their obsession with text messaging using the Messages app. My god, texting has always sucked and apple people still use it.
  • I miss Fdroid every single day. Sometimes I don’t need a super slick app with a subscription for some simple thing. I just need a little app that does a little thing.
  • EVERY APP IS A SUBSCRIPTION FOR GOD’S SAKE EVERY SINGLE DAMN ONE
cloudless@lemmy.cafe on 30 Jul 2024 12:48 next collapse

Apple Maps sucks and boy I’ve tried.

For me, Apple Maps is good in some aspects and not so good in some. I still use Google Maps for finding businesses etc. I think its quality is highly depending on the region.

Comparing emulation is crazy talk.

Not trying to compare with Android of course. Just pleasantly surprised that it is finally possible on iOS. My Samsung S23+ is still my main emulation console.

No custom launchers.

The only custom launcher I liked on Android is KISS Launcher. Now with iOS all I need to do is swipe down and I get the same functionality (and looking much better).

I miss Fdroid every single day.

True. For me this is the biggest pro for Android. That’s why I am still considering an Android tablet (can’t quite decide it yet).

ItsComplicated@sh.itjust.works on 30 Jul 2024 13:18 next collapse

I like Apple Maps at the moment because it is not currently packed with ads or suggestions.

I am fortunate enough to live in an area the directions are very accurate.

specialseaweed@sh.itjust.works on 30 Jul 2024 15:32 collapse

I use Apple maps for the same reason. I’ll go awhile without using Gmaps and then I’m shocked at how many ads and garbage are all over it. Just wringing the shit out of users with a tortured experience. I live in a big city and our rules for usage are Apple Maps for daily usage but if we’re traveling we use Google Maps. We learned that the hard way when Apple didn’t have a construction road closure that cost us over an hour of travel time. We pulled out Google Maps and it would have routed us around it.

specialseaweed@sh.itjust.works on 30 Jul 2024 15:34 next collapse

I’ve always been a crazy person about my launcher. I knew I was giving it up when I came to Apple but was still surprised at how little it can be customized. I really don’t like the swipe down, but that’s down to personal preference.

I agree with everything you said, for sure.

cloudless@lemmy.cafe on 30 Jul 2024 15:37 collapse

Hopefully the launcher customization in iOS 18 will make you feel a little better.

Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 30 Jul 2024 15:50 collapse

I’ve been using Apple Maps every day for a decade and it’s been completely great. I wonder if it depends on where you live.

Phen@lemmy.eco.br on 30 Jul 2024 13:16 next collapse

I don’t think they were comparing emulators between apple and android, just mentioning that emulators are better on it than they expected it to be.

specialseaweed@sh.itjust.works on 30 Jul 2024 15:30 collapse

Fair.

sverit@lemmy.ml on 01 Aug 2024 01:12 collapse

+1 for Tasker, it can do absolutely everything.

I’d like to add: Notifications are really bad on iOS.

specialseaweed@sh.itjust.works on 02 Aug 2024 22:27 collapse

You posted late to this thread but made the best point. I don’t even use Apple notifications because they’re so deeply shit. This is the issue that drives my wife crazy. When we talk about our new phones, the first thing she complains about is notifications.

baggachipz@sh.itjust.works on 30 Jul 2024 12:56 next collapse

Takes time to write thoughtful, detailed post in an Apple Enthusiast community

gets downvoted by 30% of readers

😒

JCreazy@midwest.social on 30 Jul 2024 13:00 collapse

Because it’s Lemmy. Apple is seen as a bad company by a lot of people.

cloudless@lemmy.cafe on 30 Jul 2024 14:02 collapse

I should probably have posted it in c/unpopularopinion

almar_quigley@lemmy.world on 30 Jul 2024 14:43 collapse

It would be great if c/appleenthusiast wasn’t constantly having posts downvoted by the rest of lemmy just because “apple bad”.

darganon@lemmy.world on 31 Jul 2024 11:50 collapse

It’s like going to church with a large “God doesn’t exist sign” of course you’re not going to be tolerated.

Also, apple is bad.

almar_quigley@lemmy.world on 31 Jul 2024 16:02 collapse

I mean having some respect for communities and their spaces feels like a pretty low fucking bar (hate groups and such notwithstanding obviously). It’s fine to think Apple is bad, any corporation in reality is. But what happens here is the equivalent of Christian proselytizing in spaces where people are just trying to do their own thing.

ItsComplicated@sh.itjust.works on 30 Jul 2024 13:04 next collapse

I have the 15 Pro Max after using Samsung for many years.

No one has mentioned the keyboard here.

I can type decent enough, however, having to go back and forth for numbers, letters, and symbols is frustrating at best.

The gallery app is not as easy as Samsung, imo. Instead of moving something to its own album I have everything stuck in “recents”. Hopefully, I will never forget to immediately move any photo to the proper album.

Photo editing on Samsung has more options.

iCloud wants to sync everything even when you tell it not to. I have documents hiding in there somewhere and apparently not even Apple can figure out where they are.

Spotlight search is amazing.

Adguard with Safari is not too bad. Reader mode is nicer, imo

I found the files app decent enough.

Overall a decent phone. Could it use improvement, yes. I look forward to ios18.

TrickDacy@lemmy.world on 30 Jul 2024 13:12 next collapse

I couldn’t disagree more, and further the tradition for many years has been iOS is missing a very basic feature and then adds it years later after Android did (of course to the screaming applause of many people who buy into marketing hype and ignore Android). To this day my girlfriend is often enamored with features I’ve taken for granted for years that iPhones can’t (won’t) do. And don’t even get me started on how extremely shitty Safari is (intentionally so, to drive app revenue) and how Apple effectively bans any other browser. Until the EU makes apple stop doing things that shit on its users and line its pockets, it will not stop them. Pathetic company and no one should accept its shitty anti-consumer business practices. Lol and they pretend to care about security and privacy but that’s 97% theater/false. Fuck Apple is the absolute nicest way I can sum it up.

cloudless@lemmy.cafe on 30 Jul 2024 14:31 collapse

… iOS is missing a very basic feature and then adds it years later after Android did

I used Android for many years because I thought such features were important. But when I switched to iOS this time, I realized that better implementation is more important than more features, in many cases.

how extremely shitty Safari is…

How? It is not as flexible as Firefox on Android, but Safari has support for adblocking extensions and it displays all websites fine.

Apple effectively bans any other browser

This is true and I do hope to see alternative browsers (with different rendering engines).

Pathetic company and no one should accept its shitty anti-consumer business practices.

The same could be said about Google, which is worse in some aspects.

Lol and they pretend to care about security and privacy but that’s 97% theater/false.

Care to advise alternatives?

TrickDacy@lemmy.world on 30 Jul 2024 16:27 collapse

  1. Easy for you to say in retrospect after having spent years with access to basic functionality that apple users got like 6 months ago

  2. How much time you got? You aren’t a web dev, that’s for sure. From lack of support for features standard on the other two major browsers since years ago to bugginess in things like video, it’s an awful browser. Web developers have to treat it like Internet explorer used to be, spending hours making apps usable which worked in minutes in the other two. Look up any given recent feature on caniuse and you’ll see it’s either not supported yet or got support added years after the other ones got it. And the explanation is simple. Apple wants web experiences to be worse because they don’t make money from the web, they make money from apps. An entire segment of software developers have to waste many hours supporting the piece of shit because they decided it was more profitable that way. Also btw extension support is very much news to me. Must be directly from Apple stuff. They don’t have thousands of extensions available like mobile Firefox, that’s for sure.

  3. Say what you want about Google, they are shitty as hell but at least their entire business model isn’t being selectively incompatible with standards if it will earn a buck. And they also don’t advertise constantly as more private or secure when they absolutely aren’t.

HootinNHollerin@lemmy.world on 30 Jul 2024 13:15 next collapse

My experience switching to iPhone 4 years ago after only android is texting is incredibly more annoying due to terrible autocorrect and prediction on iphone

Phen@lemmy.eco.br on 30 Jul 2024 13:14 next collapse

My take on the list: seems most issues are related to Samsung specifically. I’ve never owned a Samsung Android so I can’t really relate to them. I don’t really see the performance issue happening with mid tier androids though - I’m using a Motorola edge 20 and it is still just as fast as it was two years ago. Weaker decides definitely have this problem, but a flagship is not supposed to. Might be related to Samsung bloatware, maybe.

Complaints about apps and Google abandoning services is 100% real. I don’t mind the inconsistent look and feel tho, I even kinda like it - I wouldn’t like it if everything on my phone looked the same year after year (I tend to switch launchers and icon/theme sets from time to time). Also not a fan of the extra animations Apple tends to have (I’m saying this based on osx as I haven’t actively used any iOS in a while). I’ve probably even tweaked the animation settings on my phone back when I got it to speed them up. Still, Apple’s app ecosystem is miles ahead of android’s in almost every way. Even though apps can do much more on Android than on iOS, the store is trash and Apple’s isn’t (store itself still has some issues but the average app on it is much better).

I’m curious about this shortcuts app. I vaguely remember hearing about it when it came out but I’m not sure what it can do, I’m gonna check it out. Can’t comment on some other items as I don’t drive, don’t take many pictures, don’t use my face to unlock and only really use one Bluetooth audio device.

MudMan@fedia.io on 30 Jul 2024 14:27 next collapse

I, too, have abandoned Samsung.

Not going over to iPhone, though, screw that noise. The one time I tried it was on an iPad and yeah, no, screw most of that UX. Plus I'm not giving Apple money. I'm on an Android phone with a 3.5mm jack and a SD card slot, like nature intended.

cloudless@lemmy.cafe on 30 Jul 2024 14:32 collapse

I wish there were more choices other than Samsung. I don’t want any Chinese phones. Sony isn’t available in my region, and most other Japanese/Korean phone makers have given up the international market.

MudMan@fedia.io on 30 Jul 2024 14:54 next collapse

I'm not gonna force you to say if you don't want to, but what is this region where the choice is just Samsung or Chinese phones? No Google Pixels? How about ASUS, or are you ahead of the curve in lumping Taiwan in with China? Nothing? That's aggressively western. Fairphone? Motorola? Heard some positive things about their offering last year.

And to be clear, I think "I want an iPhone" is an absolutely valid stance. You don't need an excuse to like a specific phone, it's just the implication that you'd like to stay on Android but don't have alternatives.

cloudless@lemmy.cafe on 30 Jul 2024 15:00 next collapse

There are Pixel phones, but the current/last generations suck. Taiwanese phones are not available here, at least not with my mobile carrier.

Motorola is Chinese as well. I’ve never seen Fairphone and no idea who the makers are.

are you ahead of the curve in lumping Taiwan in with China?

Don’t worry, I am definitely not a tankie. Fuck the CCP.

MudMan@fedia.io on 30 Jul 2024 19:21 collapse

I... guess Motorola is Lenovo now, which I think highlights the "not Chinese" thing as somewhat arbitrary, because... well, you get people on Lenovo laptops everywhere in government and enterprise, and nobody is out there boycotting that for political reasons.

I think as somebody else mentioned before, that restricting it to one carrier in one country is very arbitrary. There are perfectly good out of carrier options, and I presume that opens Sony back up (which is my personal choice) among others.

Again, if you just want an iPhone, just get an iPhone, but it increasingly seems like nobody is twisting your arm here. There is definitely plenty of choice available, and you're taking quite a long walk to this "Samsung or bust" position.

cloudless@lemmy.cafe on 30 Jul 2024 15:20 collapse

Complete list of brands from my carrier:

<img alt="" src="https://lemmy.cafe/pictrs/image/20ee1ce6-a1da-4f1f-a9f5-7fd92bdd5eff.webp">

And I have to stick with the carrier because of my workplace.

potustheplant@feddit.nl on 30 Jul 2024 18:57 collapse

My dude, that’s your carrier only. Buy an unlocked phone from a different store, it’s not that hard.

cloudless@lemmy.cafe on 30 Jul 2024 19:03 collapse

Let’s assume I can choose any brand. Which brand would recommend?

nforminvasion@lemmy.world on 30 Jul 2024 23:12 collapse

No Google Pixels? How about ASUS, or are you ahead of the curve in lumping Taiwan in with China? Nothing? That’s aggressively western. Fairphone? Motorola? Heard some positive things about their offering last year.

WEFshill202@lemmy.world on 30 Jul 2024 14:56 next collapse

That’s complete nonsense, so many options out there. Samsung sucks I agree though.

cloudless@lemmy.cafe on 30 Jul 2024 15:01 collapse

Can you please give me some examples?

nforminvasion@lemmy.world on 30 Jul 2024 23:10 collapse

That’s the entire point of Android. There are more. Pixel, Oneplus, Nothing to mention a few.

bokherif@lemmy.world on 30 Jul 2024 14:35 next collapse

I’ve used tons of different phones (both Android and iOS) and although I always defended Android in almost every past conversation, I ended up using an iPhone, here’s why:

  • On Android the base system that provides all the functionality comes from Google and if you try to remove Google services from Android, your phone is basically crippled. I don’t need to get into how hungry Google is for your personal data.
  • Pixels advertise features that they do not have and they probably will never have. Some Pixels have the feature X, but you go buy the same exact model again and bam you don’t have feature X on that phone for some reason. (Also the Pixel launcher has a non removable Google search bar which I hated)
  • Samsungs are great mini PCs you can carry, especially with DeX, but why do I have Samsung suite + Microsoft suite + Google suite of apps on one phone? You can’t remove Samsung apps, so you take a photo, view it through Samsung gallery and backup through Google Photos which is very inconvenient.
  • Android overall has more personality, although your options are more and more limited each day due to bad hardware offered by brands. You want performance, you need a Samsung and then you get your data collected by all the big tech.
  • I’ve had multiple call, audio or app issues with many Android vendors, never had an issue with an iPhone.
  • iPhones are stupid and I hate the fact that I have to use it because Android makers are incompetent. iPhones work really well if people around you also use Apple devices (especially for US)
  • You pay almost the same price for a new Pixel 8 and a new iPhone 15. You get an experimental chip with the Pixel that is generations behind in terms of performance and you FEEL IT. I felt my Samsung S24 was A LOT faster in terms of performance compared to my iPhone 15, but since the Android system never became coherent, using iOS feels smoother.
  • Main reason I’m on an iPhone is getting away from Google (especially with all the AI features coming our way). But I hate that Apple tries to lock you into their ecosystem every step of the way. You can’t access Apple services on an Android (except with a browser, which sucks). Google services work great, but knowing that Google logs my every interaction, file and input feels like hell when you think about it.
  • Being in the cyberspace myself, I am aware that there is no such things as privacy online anymore, but at least with an iPhone, if Google pulls a stupid stunt I can just go back to iPhone’s services.

TL;DR Every phone is the same, Android in general is faster for getting things done, and although iOS is limited, it gets done whatever it can get done with no issues. It’s a matter of who you want to give your data to and I think we all know Google’s not to be trusted.

TheFeatureCreature@lemmy.world on 30 Jul 2024 15:35 next collapse

I switched to an iPhone after having many similar hangups with Android devices over the years. Biggest for me was how little update/software support Android phones got. I think they’re better these days (or so I hope) but they had awful support for years. Buying a brand new Android phone and only getting 1 OS update and 2 years of security updates was not uncommon and I have several old Android phones in a drawer that succumbed to that fate.

My experiences with iOS have largely been positive but I do have some issues which annoy me constantly:

  1. Apple’s ecosystem is great and is so polished and tightly integrated, but trying to do anything outside of that ecosystem is incredibly painful. You are actively punished when trying to do anything outside Apple’s box. Even something as simple as transferring music files from your PC to your phone is frustrating at best and impossible at worst.

  2. Every. Goddamn. App. is a subscription. The app store is almost completely useless and I practically never use it. I’m not joking when I say that the vast majority of downloadable apps are subscription-based, and usually a WEEKLY subscription instead of monthly. Sorry, but I’m not paying $5/week for a goddamn calculator or weather app. This means that using an iPhone can be very frustrating if the stock apps don’t suit your needs. This reason alone is enough to make me want to jump ship again sometimes.

  3. iCloud sucks. No other way to word this, really. It’s a relic of bygone times and Apple really needs to overhaul it and make it more useful in the modern day. Everything from the clunky, Fisherprice UI to the base storage which barely has enough gigabytes to hold a single fart. On one hand upgraded storage is only a few bucks a month. On the other hand I’m goddamn tired of subscriptions.

EleventhHour@lemmy.world on 30 Jul 2024 16:33 next collapse

  1. iCloud sucks

So you’re only complaint here is that it isn’t free and you don’t care for the UI. That sounds more like a personal preference and that you don’t wanna pay for it. Not that iCloud actually sucks.

ClassifiedPancake@discuss.tchncs.de on 30 Jul 2024 17:00 collapse

and usually a WEEKLY subscription instead of monthly.

I never encountered weekly subscriptions on apps I am interested in. But I have to agree that the App Store is shit. The apps on my phone I mostly found somewhere else like Mastodon or blogs. Our I just use built-in apps from Apple.

chemicalwonka@discuss.tchncs.de on 30 Jul 2024 15:37 next collapse

Welcome to your golden prison full of spyware. You never “own” an iPhone, in fact you’re just paying Apple the right to use the hardware and software they made.

Hypothetically, if Apple wants to turn your device into a thousand-dollar brick, it has the power to do it, and you can’t do anything about it.

TheFeatureCreature@lemmy.world on 30 Jul 2024 15:46 next collapse

There are ways to properly educate people on customer rights, privacy, right-to-repair, and ownership.

And then there is whatever annoying slop you just spewed out here. If you actually care about this and want to make a difference - do better.

Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 30 Jul 2024 15:57 collapse

None of the shit you’ve said makes any sense at all.

milicent_bystandr@lemm.ee on 30 Jul 2024 16:05 next collapse

I’ve started using an iPhone as a side phone, and expected it to be slick but restrictive. I’m surprised how many rough corners there are, especially in the apps I use. The only slick-ness is that I haven’t put much on it.

EleventhHour@lemmy.world on 30 Jul 2024 16:34 collapse

What rough corners?

milicent_bystandr@lemm.ee on 31 Jul 2024 23:11 collapse

Settings pages that are confusing to navigate out of, options missing, less clear information, not as good app-to-app integration, issues with browsers, and Bluetooth that doesn’t like to just switch off and stay off.

Nothing too major, just a bit more awkward than my Android.

EleventhHour@lemmy.world on 31 Jul 2024 23:38 collapse

There’s a back button on every page in the exact same spot system-wide (upper left corner). How is that confusing?

What “missing” options?

What “issues” with browsers?

There’s a toggle for Bluetooth that just turns it off that, since Bluetooth was added to the iPhone, has never given me an issue. I don’t know what you mean here.

Your complaints are so vague, it don’t really know what you mean. It sounds like you’re just getting used to a different interface, not that anything is actually “rough edges”.

milicent_bystandr@lemm.ee on 01 Aug 2024 09:34 collapse

Maybe. Some of it certainly is just getting used to a different interface. And most of the rest is apps that haven’t been developed as well in their iOS counterpart.

Anyway I’m not on a campaign here too besmirch the glory of Apple, so you can believe my experience or not as you wish.

But here’s some examples, if you like, OTOH,

  • Bluetooth, if I hit the button on the main screen it says “turning off for one day”. I have to go into the settings fully to turn it off properly. It also turned back on, apparently by itself. (User error maybe? I just found by surprise it was on again.
  • hotspot: I don’t see a toggle per se - seems it automatically turns on when in the settings page for it, with an auto off after not using for a while.
  • apps: nextcloud has been the most obvious so far, with the main app and notes app not using each other smoothly the way Android does.
  • browser: setting Firefox as default browser gave me a messed up page within an app, fixed when back to safari. I assume that’s due to Apple’s restriction on browsers using their own rendering engine, and instead serving them a lesser version of what safari uses.
  • “back button”: sometimes there isn’t. Sometimes I have to swipe the offending overlay down off the screen. I simply wasn’t used to that and got stuck not having a universal “back” gesture. I suppose I should have googled “how to exit vim apple”

Overall it just felt clunkier to use than I expected, given its reputation. Perhaps I expected too much.

Inktvip@lemm.ee on 30 Jul 2024 16:24 next collapse

Having moved to iPhone fairly recently I do like the overall experience, however Face ID is by far the biggest downside over a good under screen fingerprint scanner.

When picking up the phone and holding it in front of my face it works perfectly well, but that’s probably less than 50% of the unlocks I do.

Most of the time the phone would lie flat on a desk, on a nightstand, couch armrest etc. I can see and interact with the screen just fine, but the phone can’t see me properly. Making me pick the phone to quickly check a notification.

I’m probably entering my password about 4-5x as much as my old phone because of that

cloudless@lemmy.cafe on 30 Jul 2024 16:32 collapse

You just made me realize that I haven’t used the fingerprint ID on Android for a long time. I had to use a 6-digit PIN because of the requirements of using a work profile.

But even when I could use fingerprint, I thought it was slow (Samsung S10 and S23). I ended up using either PIN or pattern.

iPhone face ID is extremely fast, but in your use cases I can understand the frustrations.

pineapplelover@lemm.ee on 30 Jul 2024 16:37 next collapse

I went from iphone to a pixel 5 a while back. Love every bit of the Android ecosystem. I bought it for degoogling and now have GrapheneOS on it, it has been fucking amazing.

My friend just went from iphone 11 to moto razr and also is loving every bit of the Android experience.

Samsung is shit, bloatware and all that, don’t buy Samsungs.

SlapnutsGT@lemmy.world on 30 Jul 2024 17:01 next collapse

I had an iPhone 4 for years. Got drunk on st pattys and dropped it and screwed it all up so figured I’ll go get a new phone. Got a Samsung s9… believe I had the iPhone for ~6-7 years.

The s9 was great at first but after a few months it slowed drastically. Year later I ditched that phone because if I didn’t reboot it daily it ran like shit. Tried a non-Samsung android, I think it was the asus phone. Same shit, few months in it starts shitting the bed.

Went and got another iPhone around 2019 and I’m only on my second iPhone since switching from android and only reason I switched was I wanted some of the features on the current iPhone and Verizon had a deal where I got a free watch for upgrading.

potustheplant@feddit.nl on 30 Jul 2024 18:53 collapse

You either picked crappy phones or installed random stuff on them that caused issues. Neither I nor anyone else that I personally know has had those issues with android.

do_not_pm_me@thelemmy.club on 30 Jul 2024 19:01 next collapse

You’re using it wrong!

potustheplant@feddit.nl on 30 Jul 2024 21:59 collapse

Well, sort of. The iPhone is a good option for people that have no idea what they’re doing precisely because you’re heavily restricted. Android gives you a lot more freedom. Which is why some people (or manufacturers) mess up their phones and then the users end up blaming the OS, even if it had nothing to do with their issues.

SlapnutsGT@lemmy.world on 30 Jul 2024 19:14 next collapse

Nope. I do nothing crazy with my phones and I hardly install anything. Glad your group of people are having success, I did not.

S9 is a crappy phone? I was told at the time it was the flagship if you want an android phone, the whole reason I went with that model.

potustheplant@feddit.nl on 30 Jul 2024 21:57 collapse

S9 is a crappy phone?

The hw? No. Samsung’s android skin? Yes. One of the worst.

Regarding “my group”, it’s roughly 70% of the people that have a smartphone and I rarely hear people complain about their phone. The ones that do complain have a $150 5-year old phone usually.

nokturne213@sopuli.xyz on 30 Jul 2024 19:39 collapse

When I was running custom ROMs and updating daily-weekly my android ran fine. But when I got tired of all that and decided to run stock android it ran like ass. Sometimes rebooting my phone more than once a day, and it got to the point I was doing quarterly wipes of the phone for a fresh install. Finally gave up and moved back to an iPhone last year after being android since 2009.

potustheplant@feddit.nl on 30 Jul 2024 21:53 collapse

I have stock android as well and it runs perfectly fine. Also, the OS does not need to be updated as much as it used to because it’s been separated into modules that you can update from the Play Store. Only major changes require an OS update. Regardless of that, you do not need to update often to keep android running smoothly.

I don’t know which phone you had because you’re being very vague but it’s likely that it wasn’t actually vanilla android and the actual issue was either the skin from your manufacturer, the hw or both.

nokturne213@sopuli.xyz on 30 Jul 2024 23:43 collapse

Most recently I had a Moto z4. I got it shortly after release.

Only major changes require an OS update.

And when your phone manufacturer stops sending updates you are screwed. The Z4 shipped with 9, got updated to 10, and that was it. 11 came out when it was 15 months old and it did not get updated.

potustheplant@feddit.nl on 31 Jul 2024 00:02 collapse

Some manufacturers do that and it sucks. But 1) that’s a midrange phone that costs about half of what an iphone would cost 2) it’s very gimmicky. The accesories idea is cool but it was never going to work and it made the phone overpriced for the chipset 3) this is something the manufacturer did, it’s “android’s” fault.

Next time buy from a brand that has a better reputation and stay away from gimmicks.

nokturne213@sopuli.xyz on 31 Jul 2024 00:47 collapse

Next time buy from a brand that has a better reputation and stay away from gimmicks.

I did, I went with an iPhone.

potustheplant@feddit.nl on 31 Jul 2024 15:18 collapse

Apple is a shitty company but ok, as long as you’re happy.

nokturne213@sopuli.xyz on 31 Jul 2024 16:51 collapse

Over a decade of Android phones varying in price from sub $100 to $900 I have found that all phone manufacturers are shitty, and Apple has been the best for me so far this past 18 months.

Zorsith@lemmy.blahaj.zone on 30 Jul 2024 17:56 next collapse

I continue to be baffled that “anyone can grab your phone, point it at your face, and have access to everything” is somehow a feature and not a critical vulnerability. In the US, you can be compelled to unlock a device using biometrics, but not a password, under the 5th Amendment.

robmexx@lemmy.world on 30 Jul 2024 19:53 next collapse

If pulled over or something. Hit the power button of your iPhone a couple of times and FaceID is disabled. Easy as that. Or if you’re really paranoid: lock it before leaving the house.

improbablypoopingrn@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 30 Jul 2024 21:34 collapse

You ever been pulled over? The cop makes it to your window in record time and I would not recommend fumbling around your center console to lock your face ID during said time.

Zorsith@lemmy.blahaj.zone on 30 Jul 2024 21:44 next collapse

Exactly. You sit still,and wait for the cop to direct you, you don’t grab for shit unless they tell you to.

sznowicki@lemmy.world on 30 Jul 2024 22:17 next collapse

Then say “Siri who am I”. It will lock it as well.

Nurgle@lemmy.world on 31 Jul 2024 00:57 next collapse

Have you ever been pulled over? How fast are these cops running to your car window?

improbablypoopingrn@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 31 Jul 2024 21:53 collapse

Enough times to never try this. Be safe out there!

AA5B@lemmy.world on 31 Jul 2024 01:14 collapse

Crazy. Every time I’ve been pulled over, I have time to dig out my I’d and registration before they get to my window. Maybe I shouldn’t but I don’t have patience to wait for them

stoly@lemmy.world on 30 Jul 2024 22:40 next collapse

It won’t open if you’re unconscious. You have to be actively looking at the phone.

AA5B@lemmy.world on 31 Jul 2024 01:11 next collapse

There’s a FaceID setting for “attention aware” that I think is on by default. It won’t unlock unless you are looking at the phone with eyes open.

That won’t help with police abuse of authority, but if you power down, restart, or lock the phone it will require your password. US police can’t legally require you give up your password, although courts have.

You can choose not to use FaceID, but it’s less convenient

Stoposto@lemmy.world on 31 Jul 2024 09:50 collapse

Sad when a secure and fast way to unlock your device is seen as a vulnerability, just because you live in a 3rd world country military state where you fear and are in odds with your governments law enforcement. For the rest of us, it’s secure and like others said, easy to turn off with a few button presses if the need arises.

Zorsith@lemmy.blahaj.zone on 31 Jul 2024 14:52 collapse

Even if I wasn’t, it’s still a flawed form of authentication. Something you know > something you are/have. You don’t store your housekey halfway inserted into a lock.

Stoposto@lemmy.world on 31 Jul 2024 15:55 collapse

So you do use an iPhone great! Because it’s the only phone OS not bypassable by your own government and FaceID is optional. Making their password unlock th most secure in the industry and being someone of high authentication security you must then use it right?

Ofc you don’t, you just shit on an optional featur bacuse you have other totally unrelated issues with the device or should I say company…

fluckx@lemmy.world on 30 Jul 2024 18:17 next collapse

Can’t say the android phones I’ve used have slowed down over the years ( mainly one plus ). I always stayed away from Samsung and the sort because they add too much bloat.

Not to mention that an update changed the power button to “activate bixby” and the constant harassing OD the Samsung app.

I bought the latest Samsung tablet and its underwhelming compared to the precious Samsung tablet I had. At this point I wish I had bought an iPad instead :/

kleso@lemmy.world on 30 Jul 2024 21:19 next collapse

I dont know what was your problem with slowdowns. I’ve been rocking s8plus and now s22ultra and the only times when either were restarted was an update. I can agree with your point about design but its basically a different approach to development as with iphone you must use certain elements whereas with android you can do what you want.

cyberpunk007@lemmy.ca on 30 Jul 2024 22:52 collapse

As someone who did the same as OP in around 2018 I came back when the pixel 6 pro came out. OP says Shortcuts, I say tasker. OP says “Samsung/android” I say Samsung is not “android”. Yes it builds on it but iPhone is a single phone made by a single manufacturer. So is Samsung. Samsung doesn’t make LGs phones. Some comparisons are quite weak. I also ran into older looking apps when I used it in 2018.

Just use what you like, I like my phone to do what I want it to. Nextcloud photo sync worked like shit. Keepass app was not great. Tasker is amazing. Ssh clients were shit compared to Android. iPhone felt too much like it was telling me how to use my phone. I know I’m probably considered more of a “power user” than most.

anas@lemmy.world on 31 Jul 2024 10:05 next collapse

  1. Files App: The Files app is actually useful, and it has built-in support for Windows file shares.

It does? How can you access that?

cloudless@lemmy.cafe on 31 Jul 2024 10:08 collapse
Adderbox76@lemmy.ca on 31 Jul 2024 12:06 next collapse

Apple devices could literally be the best device ever created and they should still never be purchased because Apple is a garbage company.

The shit state of the world right now is largely because we keep giving garbage companies our money because they make the shiny shit we like to be distracted by.

The absolute strategy of the billionaire corporate class is “who cares if the world burns as long as we collect all the money and keep people looking down at their screens so they don’t notice.”

Fuck them. And fuck anyone who keeps the status quo going by shelling out for their shit. And doubly fuck anyone who then shills for them on social media.

model_tar_gz@lemmy.world on 31 Jul 2024 15:31 collapse

And Samsung is a shining star of a tech company? Google, too?

Adderbox76@lemmy.ca on 31 Jul 2024 15:50 collapse

Hell no. Fuck all of them. My point is get off the corporate cycle.

You’re phone isn’t dead just because two years have gone by and Apple/Samsung/Google tell you so. Stop giving them money and use your phones for longer, or preferably (though understandably much more difficult for most regular people so not really feasible for most) replace the built in software with privacy respecting alternatives that don’t send all your data back to their home office.

model_tar_gz@lemmy.world on 31 Jul 2024 16:41 collapse

Sure. Keep your phone until it’s dead, I’m all for that. Same with cars. But when it goes, what do you replace it with?

Are you going to build your own car? That’s awesome if you can and have the time. Otherwise, you’re going to buy a car, hopefully used, that was still built by EvilCorp.

Same with your phone.

I drive a Tesla; bought it used. Elon is a shit human. Know who else is a shit human? Literally every CEO of every car company in the world.

I have an iPhone. Bought it used. Tim Cook is a shit human. Know who else is a shit human? Literally every CEO of every major tech company in the world.

I work for NVIDIA. I make them a lot of money and they pay me very well. Do I think Jensen Huang is a shit human? Fuck yes I do, he exploits people the same way every other CEO ever does.

But what can I do? I self-host most of my services and pay for privacy-respecting ones that I don’t. But I’m a career IT worker; I know how to do that. Most people don’t even know what Linux is.

Sure, I could just move to Baja and live a Mexico beach bum lifestyle. Doesn’t sound so bad until one thinks a little deeper about it.

Adderbox76@lemmy.ca on 31 Jul 2024 16:50 collapse

You do what you can, when you can. Every bit helps. Buying your iPhone used is a great thing. Self-hosting services. Also great.

There is no “one” solution that is ever going to be perfect, because the corporate greed has been allowed to run rampant as far back as the 80s. Reaganomics took us from a world where company “x” would make a product, attach a reasonable profit margin to it (usually 30-40 percent) and be happy with that. Then shareholders came along and suddenly it wasn’t about a profit margin, it was about INCREASING a stock price at the expense of everything else. At the expense of customers. At the expense of employees. At the expense of the environment.

But all we can do is do what we can, when we can. Otherwise we’re rapidly heading for the movie “Elysium”, where the super rich live on a space station (or other paradise) while the rest of us are in slums. The only difference being is that unlike Elysium, no one in the slums will notice or care, as long as long as they can spend a months wages on the new hotness each year.

elucubra@sopuli.xyz on 31 Jul 2024 13:32 next collapse

Is OP an Apple shill? Does OP know that Samsung is not Android and viceversa?

bitwolf@lemmy.one on 31 Jul 2024 13:52 next collapse

These look like all Samsung issues and not Android issues

Telodzrum@lemmy.world on 31 Jul 2024 13:57 collapse

1, 2, 4, and 5 are universal across Android OEMs and versions.

bitwolf@lemmy.one on 31 Jul 2024 15:12 collapse

  1. Slow Shutter: Its instant on the Pixel, in fact the Pixel is known for its fast camera. The instant shuttet was a selling piece for the Nexus phones on ICS and the Pixel maintains this speed.

  2. Google’s Service Abandonment: This affects iPhones too, it’s a Google problem not an Android problem. The historical Google Services for Android remain to this day.

  3. Performance: Ive only experienced stutter on social apps, and I’ve seen the iPhone stutter on ReactNative apps as well.

  4. Android apps have an inconsistent look and feel: This is subjective. The only apps I see not on Material You are social apps that try to use their look, or are abandoned and using Holo. Abandoned iPhone apps also look out of place.

However on Samsung this is made worse by the fact that Samsing restyles applications. Some apps may still show Material You instead of OneUI theme.

Swarfega@lemm.ee on 31 Jul 2024 14:21 next collapse

I have a Pixel 8 and don’t have connectivity or overheating issues. I say this as it’s 38°C right now 🥵

The lack of being able to use extensions in Firefox on iOS is a deal breaker for me.

Swarfega@lemm.ee on 31 Jul 2024 14:23 next collapse

No idea why Samsung is seen as the best manufacturer of Android phones. Bloated crap.

lud@lemm.ee on 31 Jul 2024 15:29 next collapse

I hate how the files app doesn’t give me access to shit.

The file apps on android aren’t perfect due to no root access but it’s leagues ahead of the awful iOS app.

They usually support SMB shares too.

Deemo@lemmy.world on 31 Jul 2024 18:04 next collapse

I kinda wish ios had a fdroid equivalent. Apples $99 yearly dev fee basically forces apps to rely on subscriptions or advertising (rarely one time iap).

Capricorn_Geriatric@lemmy.world on 31 Jul 2024 22:22 collapse

I think it isn’t a one-time, but rather a yearly fee, so more like a subscription. And on top of that they take their third.

Deemo@lemmy.world on 01 Aug 2024 02:52 collapse

Forgot to mention yearly updated (thanks for the catch).

Petter1@lemm.ee on 31 Jul 2024 22:47 next collapse

FaceID is what keeps me on iPhone…

bradboimler@lemmy.world on 01 Aug 2024 02:10 collapse

That’s a new one

DLSantini@lemmy.ml on 01 Aug 2024 05:40 collapse

Few months ago I switched to an iPhone 15 Pro Max after being on Android for years. I think I briefly tried an iPhone 6s back in the day? For maybe a month and gave up. I only switched because I happened to be able to get the phone without having to pay anything down, and the one good thing I’ve always heard about iPhone is the camera. Going to be honest, I despise iOS as much as I remember. Navigating around is a nightmare. The number of times I try to use the android back gesture, only for nothing to happen, is in the dozens of times per day. The fact that there is no dedicated back button or gesture, unless a specific app graciously decides you get to have one(in the most inconvenient location possible), is obscene. Back on Android, not only do I get said feature, I can tweak and customize it to my liking. And for that matter, I can do the same to pretty much the entire UI. The nearly non-customizable UI on iOS is infuriating. The fact that I can’t seem to predict which volume is about to be adjusted when I hit the volume buttons is even more infuriating. As is the phone’s insistence on not switching audio devices when it should. Or refusing to connect to Bluetooth headphones or other devices automatically, constantly forcing me to going into the settings and do it manually. And just countless other things I absolutely hate about this thing. The only thing I have found to be an improvement is the battery life, which after a full day is still at 90% when I am ready to go to bed. But that’s only because I just don’t touch the phone anymore. I check an email or two during the day, and the phone otherwise just sits in my pocket untouched. Switching to an iPhone is probably the single biggest technology-related mistake I’ve made in years. And that’s coming from someone who is running Arch as the only OS on my gaming laptop, and owns multiple VR headset and AR/XR glasses.

I’m glad other people seem to like their iPhones, but I absolutely despise this thing, and oh my god am I desperate to get the hell back onto Android at the first opportunity. I got this through Boost Infinite, so I’m hoping that when it’s time, they’ll let me “upgrade” to the Galaxy S24 Ultra. Which is the phone I wanted to begin with, but they were conveniently only advertising the iPhone at the time, so I didn’t know they had other phones.

Moral of the the story is, if you tend to do any customization at all when you get a new Android phone, you’re probably going to hate iPhone. If you tend to just log in your email account and use the phone as it comes, you might fare better. In either case, do what you have to, to get your hands on a borrowed iPhone and spend some time with it before even considering making the switch.