What could Apple force app developers to do that would improve your iOS / macOS experience?
from lemmingnosis@lemmy.world to apple_enthusiast@lemmy.world on 23 Jun 07:05
https://lemmy.world/post/16832144

Mine: require setting a URL to support password managers. You download an app, go to login, tap the password field, and open Bitwarden. Does it find your login? Half the time, nope! The dev didn’t tell Apple one time what their URL is, so everyone now has to search their password manager every time.

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tobogganablaze@lemmus.org on 23 Jun 07:13 next collapse

I don’t use the app store, so Apple doesn’t really have a say.

CameronDev@programming.dev on 23 Jun 07:28 next collapse

On android the app ID is used for password matching, does apple really not do the same thing? That would be maddening!

chiisana@lemmy.chiisana.net on 23 Jun 09:35 next collapse

I know 1Password can detect the app ID and use that as a match criteria. The problem is that it is not user intuitive to get the app ID to key into password manager; also doesn’t change the fact that the app most of the time just front end to some website, which already has an entry for the website, and shouldn’t require the user to go out of their way to find App ID to work around the dev’s inability to surfacing basic metadata about their service.

Railcar8095@lemm.ee on 24 Jun 21:27 next collapse

Bitwarden and other password managers get the app Id automatically on Android and can have multiple apps/websites associated to a password, you only need to search once and tap “auto fill and save”

chiisana@lemmy.chiisana.net on 24 Jun 21:34 collapse

Apple community, we don’t care about android; sorry but not sorry. And yes, it is possible, I don’t think anyone is arguing that. The discussion is more what should happen in “the Apple way” where things just work — and that’s something Apple can mandate on app developers… something that might be pretty foreign and alien to the android crowd.

Railcar8095@lemm.ee on 24 Jun 23:12 next collapse

Being aware of something outside of your own ass, something pretty foreign and alien to an apple fanboy like you.

It’s people like you who made it possible for Mac os to not have proper snapping until 2024.

CameronDev@programming.dev on 24 Jun 23:37 collapse

Our point was that it doesn’t need to involve app developers at all, it should just be handled by the OS automatically.

It doesn’t hurt to look over the fence and see what works.

lemmingnosis@lemmy.world on 25 Jun 04:23 collapse

So maybe I can just tap the + in Bitwarden from an app and it might save the ID…

Thought I’d tried that but can’t remember! Will test, thanks.

[deleted] on 24 Jun 20:45 collapse

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kayazere@feddit.nl on 23 Jun 07:31 next collapse

Apple is the one holding back the user experience on their operating systems, not third party developers.

Pechente@feddit.de on 23 Jun 08:20 next collapse

Force iOS / iPadOS devs to make their apps available on macOS. It’s pretty cool that you can run iPadOS apps natively on macOS but most devs simply don’t allow it.

jdeath@lemm.ee on 23 Jun 12:17 next collapse

iirc there was a short time where the apps were published by default once the compatibility layer was in place. i definitely used the feature to make my app work across the whole product line, but there were a couple of things that were broken on macos that i had to put in fixes or workarounds. that might explain why more developers haven’t released their ios apps on mac.

balder1993@programming.dev on 24 Jun 18:47 collapse

Problem is that requires carefully testing, and not every company wants to have a half-assed port that doesn’t have a good experience on the desktop.

joneskind@lemmy.world on 23 Jun 11:28 next collapse

Apple could start by stopping taking Europeans for fools and claiming that the DMA prevents them from publishing Apple Intelligence in Europe.

I’ve been an happy Apple exclusive customer since 2008. But if they play it that way I won’t follow. I give them one year to put their shit together. After that I’m done with the brand.

Long live Europe

dinckelman@lemmy.world on 23 Jun 17:26 next collapse

Thirdparty developers literally carried the Apple experience to where it is now. The ones stopping Apple from being better are Apple themselves

lemmingnosis@lemmy.world on 24 Jun 20:56 collapse

I didn’t realize how ungrateful this post sounded until you pointed it out. Wish I would’ve rephrased it at the least. Thanks.

catalyst@lemmy.world on 24 Jun 12:36 next collapse

Since the question is specifically about what Apple could make developers do, I’ll say this: enforce the App Store guideline rule about not using push notifications for advertising.

I very rarely enable push notifications on apps anymore because so many use them for spammy advertisements. This makes apps less useful than they could be if notifications were used responsibly.

fer0n@lemmy.world on 24 Jun 20:44 collapse

If I remember correctly they’ve since removed that rule

lemmingnosis@lemmy.world on 24 Jun 20:55 next collapse

I hope they require a separate toggle for promotional notifications.

fer0n@lemmy.world on 24 Jun 20:59 collapse

In an ideal world, Apple intelligence will take care of this. But it’ll probably just highlight more important notifications while everything else is still there a swipe away.

catalyst@lemmy.world on 25 Jun 00:50 collapse

It’s still there, although there’s a loophole of course.

4.5.4:

Push Notifications should not be used for promotions or direct marketing purposes unless customers have explicitly opted in to receive them via consent language displayed in your app’s UI, and you provide a method in your app for a user to opt out from receiving such messages.

The “explicit opt-in” could easily be language hidden in a massive ToS that nobody reads. So I guess I wish Apple would do away with that entirely and start enforcing it.

fer0n@lemmy.world on 24 Jun 20:53 next collapse

Force them (including myself) to implement dark mode, and soon dark app icons.

AA5B@lemmy.world on 24 Jun 21:12 collapse

Be less clever with payment information, including billing address. I suppose that was helpful in the Olden days but now that Apple Wallet can autofill, get out of the way.