Gloria@sh.itjust.works
on 25 Jan 00:11
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Siri was acquired by Apple Inc. in April 2010 under the direction of Steve Jobs.
Siri’s original release on iPhone 4s on Oct 2011 received mixed reviews. It received praise for its voice recognition and contextual knowledge of user information, including calendar appointments, but was criticized for requiring stiff user commands and having a lack of flexibility. It was also criticized for lacking information on certain nearby places and for its inability to understand certain English accents. In 2016 and 2017, a number of media reports said that Siri lacked innovation, particularly against new competing voice assistants. The reports concerned Siri’s limited set of features, “bad” voice recognition, and undeveloped service integrations as causing trouble for Apple in the field of artificial intelligence and cloud-based services; the basis for the complaints reportedly due to stifled development, as caused by Apple’s prioritization of user privacy and executive power struggles within the company.[3] Its launch was also overshadowed by the death of Steve Jobs, which occurred one day after the launch.
Between the release 2011 until today, it was simmering and never developed. It is crazy how such a bad implementation was carried on by apple so long. Over 14 years of failed promises.
I’m not shocked, in the slightest, to be completely honest.
All the companies that tried to push this kind of technology, as an Ironman JARVIS alternative, likely knew they don’t have the research to make it anything, other than an extremely barebones speech recognition system, with an alarm/weather app attached to it, but still pushed it to the market, because that’s what makes the money.
Beyond that, once the dust settled, there was no incentive to innovate on it. The competitors have either given up, or put their product in maintenance mode, where it continues to rot, and lose features over time.
The only reason why it seems like there’s innovation again now, is because they took that voice recognition tech, and slapped AI slop, fed by your own data, on top of it
Jessica@discuss.tchncs.de
on 25 Jan 02:24
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I’m still on 17.7.1, but I suppose I still get the same Siri experience as everyone on AI riddled 18, and yeah there’s been a massive decline in Siri lately. For years I’ve been using dictation from the Lock Screen to send text messages by saying, “Tell [Person] message.” and ever since they started dabbling in AI, it hasn’t been working correctly, especially if the message I’m dictating is longer than a sentence or two.
Getting one that causes less problems is the goal.
RagingSnarkasm@lemmy.world
on 25 Jan 06:20
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Execs, new or old, are the problem, not the fix.
friend_of_satan@lemmy.world
on 26 Jan 02:01
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I disagree. I’m just an engineer, but I’ve worked for executive leadership across the spectrum from great to awful, and a great executive leader can make or break something by aligning everybody and cutting out bullshit and distractions.
That being said, they also have to have great people working for them, so they are far from the whole picture. But some positive changes just can’t be made from the bottom up.
WolfLink@sh.itjust.works
on 25 Jan 07:03
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Revert it to how it was about 3 years ago, I think that’s around when it peaked.
th3dogcow@lemmy.world
on 26 Jan 00:29
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That would be great to be honest. I have many shopping lists in reminders named as the stores which I frequent, with one catch all called “shopping” they are in a group called “shopping” because of course they are. Until recently adding reminders worked like “Siri add xyz to my shopping list”. But now Siri pops up saying “do you mean shopping, or shopping?” And clicking either option results in an error that the app needs to be opened. How fucking stupid can it be? One isn’t even a list! Works fine from my Apple Watch though. Changed the category to “to buy” because fuck me, right?
Donebrach@lemmy.world
on 26 Jan 05:42
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Okay, “Who let the Dogs Out” by Baha Men is now playing on Apple Music. Location of Stacy from Work now shared with Wife (bedroom).
monkeyslikebananas2@lemmy.world
on 26 Jan 16:57
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And the fucking thing won’t answer any questions while driving. Like what the fuck is the point. If I have to unlock and stare at my phone, why do I need Siri. i can do it myself.
Kelsenellenelvial@lemmy.ca
on 29 Jan 03:15
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Yep, and they’ve got some parts that are pretty good from earlier. Things like being able to copy text out of a picture, or enter text from a picture anywhere. Flagging your vehicles location when the Bluetooth disconnects, noticing where “work” and “home” are and your usual schedule to offer navigation at the right time. I was looking forward to Apple Intelligence building on those kinds of things and making them more reliable. Some days though it seems like the stuff that used to work has become less reliable, and the new stuff isn’t mature enough to be really useful.
@oakey66@cantankerous_cashew even worse: give me two hours and I will give you 80 really handy IF THEN rules that Apple at this moment does not use. For starters: IF music is playing while AppleWatch is in workout mode, THEN skip that song in all-time favourites/ recommendations.
friend_of_satan@lemmy.world
on 26 Jan 02:03
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Apple Intelligence is so awful I just turned it off. It was causing me trouble and I honestly can’t think of a single thing it did good for me. I’ve been much less frustrated with it turned off.
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Between the release 2011 until today, it was simmering and never developed. It is crazy how such a bad implementation was carried on by apple so long. Over 14 years of failed promises.
I’m not shocked, in the slightest, to be completely honest.
All the companies that tried to push this kind of technology, as an Ironman JARVIS alternative, likely knew they don’t have the research to make it anything, other than an extremely barebones speech recognition system, with an alarm/weather app attached to it, but still pushed it to the market, because that’s what makes the money.
Beyond that, once the dust settled, there was no incentive to innovate on it. The competitors have either given up, or put their product in maintenance mode, where it continues to rot, and lose features over time.
The only reason why it seems like there’s innovation again now, is because they took that voice recognition tech, and slapped AI slop, fed by your own data, on top of it
Siri, set a timer
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I’m still on 17.7.1, but I suppose I still get the same Siri experience as everyone on AI riddled 18, and yeah there’s been a massive decline in Siri lately. For years I’ve been using dictation from the Lock Screen to send text messages by saying, “Tell [Person] message.” and ever since they started dabbling in AI, it hasn’t been working correctly, especially if the message I’m dictating is longer than a sentence or two.
This has never happened to me.
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Oh yeah execs fix all the problems!
You have it backwards. They cause the problems.
Getting one that causes less problems is the goal.
Execs, new or old, are the problem, not the fix.
I disagree. I’m just an engineer, but I’ve worked for executive leadership across the spectrum from great to awful, and a great executive leader can make or break something by aligning everybody and cutting out bullshit and distractions.
That being said, they also have to have great people working for them, so they are far from the whole picture. But some positive changes just can’t be made from the bottom up.
Revert it to how it was about 3 years ago, I think that’s around when it peaked.
Or maybe stop throwing “AI” into everything. Ffs. Nobody asked for this shit. Nobody wants this.
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That would be great to be honest. I have many shopping lists in reminders named as the stores which I frequent, with one catch all called “shopping” they are in a group called “shopping” because of course they are. Until recently adding reminders worked like “Siri add xyz to my shopping list”. But now Siri pops up saying “do you mean shopping, or shopping?” And clicking either option results in an error that the app needs to be opened. How fucking stupid can it be? One isn’t even a list! Works fine from my Apple Watch though. Changed the category to “to buy” because fuck me, right?
Okay, “Who let the Dogs Out” by Baha Men is now playing on Apple Music. Location of Stacy from Work now shared with Wife (bedroom).
And the fucking thing won’t answer any questions while driving. Like what the fuck is the point. If I have to unlock and stare at my phone, why do I need Siri. i can do it myself.
Yep, and they’ve got some parts that are pretty good from earlier. Things like being able to copy text out of a picture, or enter text from a picture anywhere. Flagging your vehicles location when the Bluetooth disconnects, noticing where “work” and “home” are and your usual schedule to offer navigation at the right time. I was looking forward to Apple Intelligence building on those kinds of things and making them more reliable. Some days though it seems like the stuff that used to work has become less reliable, and the new stuff isn’t mature enough to be really useful.
@oakey66 @cantankerous_cashew even worse: give me two hours and I will give you 80 really handy IF THEN rules that Apple at this moment does not use. For starters: IF music is playing while AppleWatch is in workout mode, THEN skip that song in all-time favourites/ recommendations.
Apple Intelligence is so awful I just turned it off. It was causing me trouble and I honestly can’t think of a single thing it did good for me. I’ve been much less frustrated with it turned off.
Not to get too tedious about this, but if AI actually worked, wouldn’t Apple have used it to deploy AI to its devices?
“AI, deploy yourself to the iPhone.” would be all that is needed to get it working.
If Apple can’t use AI to get AI working tells me that AI doesn’t work.
“Eating one’s own dogfood” and all that.