Rumor sites have been talking about iPhone Fold and in-screen touch ID for the past five years and neither have come to fruition.
I honestly don’t know what the point of Touch ID is if it’s not part of a home button. FaceID works fine and doesn’t require additional hardware. I’d rather see the home button make a comeback since I’m not a fan of having to memorize gestures for hidden UI.
ragebutt@lemmy.dbzer0.com
on 02 Sep 04:27
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Faceid sucks if you have any kind of mask. if you are nearsighted and tend to hold the phone closer than the camera expects it flat out doesn’t work. It’s slower than touchid. It was absolutely stupid for them to completely remove the fingerprint sensor and it’s stupid that they added a new button that’s touch sensitive but somehow isn’t a fingerprint reader.
It also absolutely requires additional hardware. the truedepth camera system, which is actually a series of lasers and sensors:
Infernal_pizza@lemmy.dbzer0.com
on 02 Sep 06:19
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FaceID has had the ability to register while wearing a mask for a while now (although it came a bit too late as by the time it came out most places had got rid of mandatory mask requirements)
ragebutt@lemmy.dbzer0.com
on 02 Sep 09:11
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Faceid with mask relies even further on id of eye region so if you wear glasses, especially thick ones that tend to distort light, it sucks.
Same thing if you use the phone for virtual avatar tracking/vtuber stuff. If you wear glasses, especially thick ones, you have to play with the eye tracking sensitivity and usually turn it way down or it will think your eyes are closed most of the time.
From what I’ve read online it seems people who don’t wear glasses also have trouble but it’s hard to say whether that’s genuinely a defect, user error, configuration issue, etc as literally any feature change made by any tech company will have a bunch of threads with people griping about how it sucks tbf.
Also there’s the inherent stupidity that they made a touch less unlock to replace fingerprinting that is slower and still requires you to touch the phone to unlock it, except now you have to touch it in a more obtrusive way (swipe up). iphone 8 you could literally pick up the phone by the home button and it was almost guaranteed to be unlocked by the time you brought it to your face
I suspect you’re using a few cases of bad experiences and applying it to all of the technology.
Either that or you’re criticizing Face ID from multiple generations ago.
It works.
ragebutt@lemmy.dbzer0.com
on 05 Sep 16:13
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Iphone 16, regularly happens, doesn’t work reliably for users with high myopia. I am not the only one, you will find other similar complaints. Just because it works for you doesn’t mean it works for everyone?
You’ve been told by multiple people that they don’t have that bad experience.
ragebutt@lemmy.dbzer0.com
on 05 Sep 18:41
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Okay? I’m not saying it never works for anyone, I’m saying for a subset of users with certain conditions it does not work well. If you are a person who doesn’t wear glasses or has glasses that aren’t extremely high index, don’t have strabismus/eye alignment issues then great for you, I’m so happy that you get a phone that works I guess?
But I’m telling you that it doesn’t work for me and there are reports of people with the same issues:
Now you’ve been told that it doesn’t work by multiple people (or do they not count because they’re not here to defend themselves). You sound like a shithead software developer who is convinced disabled people don’t exist so they don’t have to do the extra work of covering for edge cases. That is honestly probably what’s going on here, and could easily be fixed by just putting touchid in the new button to eschew faceid entirely for people that it works poorly for.
Yeah, I figured you’d end up angrily transposing someone else onto me to attack that caricature. Seems you just want to find a reason to shit on this tech so you can prop up Android in a follow-on statement.
If that’s the case, I really think you should make the switch.
The mass users of iPhones have a better experience away from touchID. I think you’re forgetting how finicky it was around moisture and general wonkiness if the finger wasn’t placed in an ideal position.
FaceID is better than it in every way.
ragebutt@lemmy.dbzer0.com
on 05 Sep 22:12
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I have an iphone 16 as mentioned, regularly happens. Admittedly was worse on the iphone x I had before this, so they did something to improve it. Android sucks too you fuckin fanboy trash. No phone is truly unlocked anymore.
“The mass users”. well fuck anyone who is different or disabled then. If it works for me then it doesn’t matter! And if anyone disagrees they must be a troll because apple can do no wrong.
I still have devices with touch sensors including a 2019 macbook running arch. The touch id on there works great and is faster than face id on an iphone 6 years newer, doesn’t require a gesture, and doesn’t complain about my reflective glasses or misaligned eyes
Holy shit. This level of anger is ridiculous. It’s funny watching you people fanboy while throwing accusations.
Learn to use the tech and stop bitching.
ragebutt@lemmy.dbzer0.com
on 05 Sep 23:48
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it’s funny having to use technology in any way that is not acclimated to a disability or differing appearance, failing, and repeatedly getting dismissed by assholes like you who don’t have a problem and then assume it’s a skill issue.
I’m amazed you keep getting past the high tech security that is FaceID to type these responses. Are you getting help?
ragebutt@lemmy.dbzer0.com
on 09 Sep 22:28
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Are you the kind of tech bro that is so happy Trump is in office bc he’s enabling technofascism. You fit the profile: take extreme offense to someone disagreeing with you, assume anyone critiquing apple is an android fanboy bc everything must be tribalism, ableist bc mocking people for the faults they can’t control is super funny like South Park, etc
I used to know this idiot that liked to pick up shit and throw it against his walls to see if it would stick.
I see that person has graduated to being on lemmy.
ragebutt@lemmy.dbzer0.com
on 10 Sep 17:26
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I used to know this person that pretended to be a lib but was actually a borderline maga bully and would get really defensive when they were called out for using ableist language. They had to be beaten over the head to not say f*g anymore but theyre the same shitty person that still mocks people for things they can’t change. Turns out they’re all over lemmy
Hidden UI is all throughout the various “26” operating systems. I feel sorry for any new users that are coming to the OS and need some afordance for where to click, tap, drag or swipe.
desmosthenes@lemmy.world
on 02 Sep 04:25
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yawn
captainastronaut@seattlelunarsociety.org
on 02 Sep 04:48
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I hope this isn’t real. What a waste of R&D that would be.
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Rumor sites have been talking about iPhone Fold and in-screen touch ID for the past five years and neither have come to fruition.
I honestly don’t know what the point of Touch ID is if it’s not part of a home button. FaceID works fine and doesn’t require additional hardware. I’d rather see the home button make a comeback since I’m not a fan of having to memorize gestures for hidden UI.
Faceid sucks if you have any kind of mask. if you are nearsighted and tend to hold the phone closer than the camera expects it flat out doesn’t work. It’s slower than touchid. It was absolutely stupid for them to completely remove the fingerprint sensor and it’s stupid that they added a new button that’s touch sensitive but somehow isn’t a fingerprint reader.
It also absolutely requires additional hardware. the truedepth camera system, which is actually a series of lasers and sensors:
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but tbf it’s thanks to that hardware that we have vtubers so that worked out. love me some korone
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FaceID has had the ability to register while wearing a mask for a while now (although it came a bit too late as by the time it came out most places had got rid of mandatory mask requirements)
Faceid with mask relies even further on id of eye region so if you wear glasses, especially thick ones that tend to distort light, it sucks.
Same thing if you use the phone for virtual avatar tracking/vtuber stuff. If you wear glasses, especially thick ones, you have to play with the eye tracking sensitivity and usually turn it way down or it will think your eyes are closed most of the time.
From what I’ve read online it seems people who don’t wear glasses also have trouble but it’s hard to say whether that’s genuinely a defect, user error, configuration issue, etc as literally any feature change made by any tech company will have a bunch of threads with people griping about how it sucks tbf.
Also there’s the inherent stupidity that they made a touch less unlock to replace fingerprinting that is slower and still requires you to touch the phone to unlock it, except now you have to touch it in a more obtrusive way (swipe up). iphone 8 you could literally pick up the phone by the home button and it was almost guaranteed to be unlocked by the time you brought it to your face
This is not my experience. None of it.
I suspect you’re using a few cases of bad experiences and applying it to all of the technology.
Either that or you’re criticizing Face ID from multiple generations ago.
It works.
Iphone 16, regularly happens, doesn’t work reliably for users with high myopia. I am not the only one, you will find other similar complaints. Just because it works for you doesn’t mean it works for everyone?
You’ve been told by multiple people that they don’t have that bad experience.
Okay? I’m not saying it never works for anyone, I’m saying for a subset of users with certain conditions it does not work well. If you are a person who doesn’t wear glasses or has glasses that aren’t extremely high index, don’t have strabismus/eye alignment issues then great for you, I’m so happy that you get a phone that works I guess?
But I’m telling you that it doesn’t work for me and there are reports of people with the same issues:
reddit.com/…/my_face_id_suddenly_wont_work_with_m…
www.reddit.com/r/…/faceid_fails_due_to_lazy_eye/ (old but the next two are the same issue from last year)
discussions.apple.com/thread/252296478?sortBy=ran…
discussions.apple.com/thread/255864129?sortBy=ran…
discussions.apple.com/thread/255562829?sortBy=ran…
discussions.apple.com/thread/255981605?answerId=2…
(Note the similar questions on apple boards).
Now you’ve been told that it doesn’t work by multiple people (or do they not count because they’re not here to defend themselves). You sound like a shithead software developer who is convinced disabled people don’t exist so they don’t have to do the extra work of covering for edge cases. That is honestly probably what’s going on here, and could easily be fixed by just putting touchid in the new button to eschew faceid entirely for people that it works poorly for.
Yeah, I figured you’d end up angrily transposing someone else onto me to attack that caricature. Seems you just want to find a reason to shit on this tech so you can prop up Android in a follow-on statement.
If that’s the case, I really think you should make the switch.
The mass users of iPhones have a better experience away from touchID. I think you’re forgetting how finicky it was around moisture and general wonkiness if the finger wasn’t placed in an ideal position.
FaceID is better than it in every way.
I have an iphone 16 as mentioned, regularly happens. Admittedly was worse on the iphone x I had before this, so they did something to improve it. Android sucks too you fuckin fanboy trash. No phone is truly unlocked anymore.
“The mass users”. well fuck anyone who is different or disabled then. If it works for me then it doesn’t matter! And if anyone disagrees they must be a troll because apple can do no wrong.
I still have devices with touch sensors including a 2019 macbook running arch. The touch id on there works great and is faster than face id on an iphone 6 years newer, doesn’t require a gesture, and doesn’t complain about my reflective glasses or misaligned eyes
Holy shit. This level of anger is ridiculous. It’s funny watching you people fanboy while throwing accusations.
Learn to use the tech and stop bitching.
it’s funny having to use technology in any way that is not acclimated to a disability or differing appearance, failing, and repeatedly getting dismissed by assholes like you who don’t have a problem and then assume it’s a skill issue.
When webcams first started doing facial tracking and it ignored black people was your response to them “learn to use the tech and stop bitching”
Jesus Christ. It’s crazy how you’ve fixated on me and decided I’m the person that’s been getting in your way of using tech the way it’s designed.
You should probably get some counseling. Or an android. I hear they’re great and will definitely not allow others to hack your touchID.
Oh my god this person is sooo fixated on me because they have the gall to disagree with my comment replies how dare theyyyy
I’m surprised you’re able to write these lengthy diatribes with your condition.
Classy move from a privileged scumbag
Do you ever think we’re just shitting our lives away on the internet?
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On my deathbed I will remember this exchange and smile
That tracks.
When I went to unlock my phone for the notification of this faceid didn’t work
Yet here you are, obsessing yet again.
you responded in minutes bro lmao
Have you taken your meds today?
More ableism, classy
I’m amazed you keep getting past the high tech security that is FaceID to type these responses. Are you getting help?
Are you the kind of tech bro that is so happy Trump is in office bc he’s enabling technofascism. You fit the profile: take extreme offense to someone disagreeing with you, assume anyone critiquing apple is an android fanboy bc everything must be tribalism, ableist bc mocking people for the faults they can’t control is super funny like South Park, etc
I used to know this idiot that liked to pick up shit and throw it against his walls to see if it would stick.
I see that person has graduated to being on lemmy.
I used to know this person that pretended to be a lib but was actually a borderline maga bully and would get really defensive when they were called out for using ableist language. They had to be beaten over the head to not say f*g anymore but theyre the same shitty person that still mocks people for things they can’t change. Turns out they’re all over lemmy
I met this person on lemmy recently that’s so dedicated to playing a victim it’s obvious it’s become their entire personality.
てめえの頭はハッピーセットかよ？
Los malos gatos en mes pantalones.
これからは日本語しか使わないぞ、このアメリカ豚め
Charlie died. You should be silent out of respect.
Lmao I can’t think of anything that deserves less respect. fafo
Hidden UI is all throughout the various “26” operating systems. I feel sorry for any new users that are coming to the OS and need some afordance for where to click, tap, drag or swipe.
yawn
I hope this isn’t real. What a waste of R&D that would be.