I can understand why’d they’d feel this way. Apple is mostly a closed platform with overpriced hardware. I’m surprised Apple hasn’t started packaging bottles of air yet while claiming it is premium air. Apple cultist would pay for it.
Reverendender@sh.itjust.works
on 14 Feb 21:23
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How many Apple cultists have you actually met in reality?
tophneal@sh.itjust.works
on 14 Feb 21:57
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As an Apple and Linux user, all the people I know that will"throw money" at new apple hardware have enough to not care. They’re not power users, they just want something simple and reliable, and apple hardware checks those boxes.
The actual apple fans I know are buying refurb, using oclp to keep old machines going longer, or just wait until there’s some form of price drop.
I think it’s also worth noting to this person that the apple tv hardware costs LESS than a shield tv. But that head is likely so firmly rooted in their own ass that it’d take an auger to remove it.
I’m thinking about buying an Apple TV because I don’t like the built-in software on my TV, and “big corp that isn’t Google” sounds like a reasonable compromise between privacy and integration with big media providers.
tophneal@sh.itjust.works
on 14 Feb 22:10
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They’re pretty solid honestly. I chose a shield over one bc at the time I wanted some apps that required side loading, but now that I have an emby server that’s moot. The only thing I’m not a fan of is the touch remote, but they still have a remote app so I can just use my phone instead.
Also good to know! The only one I have much exposure to has that remote. I’m glad they came to their senses on the remote! I’ll definitely have to grab one when my shield kicks its bucket
Reverendender@sh.itjust.works
on 15 Feb 00:35
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It’s the best available option. Which IMO describes almost all apple products. They are FAR from perfect. They are absolutely overpriced. The support has gone WAY downhill. But for privacy, durability, build quality, longevity, performance, reliability, ease of use, interoperability, and yes; support, they are the best thing out there.
Apple TV is currently the best streaming box available and has been for a while. It’s also cheaper than other high-end options while providing excellent functionality.
PS5 (or 4 or even 3) is quite a bit more money, but it’s also a very capable media device that also happens to play video games.
Reverendender@sh.itjust.works
on 15 Feb 11:14
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It’s not at all a bad option, but the streaming apps don’t seem to pay much attention to keeping their console apps updated with support for the latest and best Audio and video formats and codecs etc.
Unfortunately the PlayStations are terrible picks if you run your own Plex or Emby. Sony doesn’t really open up their app space for the developers to provide client apps
Years ago, I ran a universal media server that my PS3 interacted with fine. Granted, the UI was a bit clunky (folder and file based) but it worked. I haven’t locally hosted any media in a while. Does the PS5 no longer support this type of solution?
I can’t speak toward all the options out there but when I added someone to my emby server and they asked if there was a playstation app, I looked into if one was available. From what I recall finding on the emby forums, Sony was basically just not responding to their expressed interest to make a client app for the platform(s). This applied to PS4/5 though, not 3
Yeah, I just got 2 cheap used ones for that reason. It’s pretty good.
Also because it works way better as a Steam Link than my (surprisingly still being updated) Steam Links, or than on any of the many shitty Chrome/GoogleTV boxes.
Otherwise I have almost no Apple stuff anymore. Heck, not for 5+ years.
Have you never been to a Genius Bar? My overall perception of Apple fans are people that they drink $8 lattes daily & write a couple blog posts per month while drinking wine & feel accomplished as a result.
Reverendender@sh.itjust.works
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I used to work at the Genius bar
paraphrand@lemmy.world
on 14 Feb 21:54
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They refuse to integrate with any universal search on tv boxes.
I’m not saying their OS sucks. If it were not tied to their hardware, I’d prob use it too. But because they bundle them & upcharge their hardware a lot, it just isn’t worth it IMO. I’d rather move towards an open-source OS or at least one not tied to hardware.
@timewarp it’s probably because it’s so well integrated with their hardware, which is superior, that it works so well. My problem is the walled garden aspect their apps. If you don’t use standardized formats e.g. odf, it’s really useless for widespread adoption.
Reverendender@sh.itjust.works
on 15 Feb 11:10
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Yep. OS is hugely optimized to run best on Apple hardware.
neon_nova@lemmy.dbzer0.com
on 15 Feb 00:03
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Is this a feature of the TV box only or can it be done on a phone?
I think it might be country specific since I don’t have an option to enable it. I remember that Prime didn’t integrate with TV+ for years here while it did in other countries.
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Enshitification continues unabated.
As time goes on, I hate Netflix more and more.
As time goes by, I hate capitalism more and more.
That too!
This is not a “mistake”. This clearly proves they have Apple TV app integration implemented (just turned off). And someone accidentally turned it on.
But they have clearly put in effort and work into adding this functionality.
New functionality doesn’t just happen by mistake.
I know
Sure it was a mistake. Someone mistakenly enabled a feature flag :p
It was a rogue AI!!
Let’s hope that it was a mistake because it wasn’t ready and it will roll out later
I can understand why’d they’d feel this way. Apple is mostly a closed platform with overpriced hardware. I’m surprised Apple hasn’t started packaging bottles of air yet while claiming it is premium air. Apple cultist would pay for it.
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The icons make me ballz tickle
How many Apple cultists have you actually met in reality?
As an Apple and Linux user, all the people I know that will"throw money" at new apple hardware have enough to not care. They’re not power users, they just want something simple and reliable, and apple hardware checks those boxes. The actual apple fans I know are buying refurb, using oclp to keep old machines going longer, or just wait until there’s some form of price drop.
I think it’s also worth noting to this person that the apple tv hardware costs LESS than a shield tv. But that head is likely so firmly rooted in their own ass that it’d take an auger to remove it.
I’m thinking about buying an Apple TV because I don’t like the built-in software on my TV, and “big corp that isn’t Google” sounds like a reasonable compromise between privacy and integration with big media providers.
They’re pretty solid honestly. I chose a shield over one bc at the time I wanted some apps that required side loading, but now that I have an emby server that’s moot. The only thing I’m not a fan of is the touch remote, but they still have a remote app so I can just use my phone instead.
you can still buy and use the classic remotes too! here’s the first one i found on ebay: www.ebay.com/itm/143752434103
Good to know the current boxes still work with the old remotes, thanks for sharing!
They switched from the touch remotes years ago. I have a 4k ATV and it has a physical directional pad.
Also good to know! The only one I have much exposure to has that remote. I’m glad they came to their senses on the remote! I’ll definitely have to grab one when my shield kicks its bucket
It’s the best available option. Which IMO describes almost all apple products. They are FAR from perfect. They are absolutely overpriced. The support has gone WAY downhill. But for privacy, durability, build quality, longevity, performance, reliability, ease of use, interoperability, and yes; support, they are the best thing out there.
Apple TV is currently the best streaming box available and has been for a while. It’s also cheaper than other high-end options while providing excellent functionality.
PS5 (or 4 or even 3) is quite a bit more money, but it’s also a very capable media device that also happens to play video games.
It’s not at all a bad option, but the streaming apps don’t seem to pay much attention to keeping their console apps updated with support for the latest and best Audio and video formats and codecs etc.
I could see that. We have a pretty old TV, so we don’t have a need for things like HDR.
Unfortunately the PlayStations are terrible picks if you run your own Plex or Emby. Sony doesn’t really open up their app space for the developers to provide client apps
Years ago, I ran a universal media server that my PS3 interacted with fine. Granted, the UI was a bit clunky (folder and file based) but it worked. I haven’t locally hosted any media in a while. Does the PS5 no longer support this type of solution?
I can’t speak toward all the options out there but when I added someone to my emby server and they asked if there was a playstation app, I looked into if one was available. From what I recall finding on the emby forums, Sony was basically just not responding to their expressed interest to make a client app for the platform(s). This applied to PS4/5 though, not 3
In the case of the universal media server there wasn’t a need for an app. The PS3 found it on the network and it showed up under the media UI thing.
Yeah, I just got 2 cheap used ones for that reason. It’s pretty good.
Also because it works way better as a Steam Link than my (surprisingly still being updated) Steam Links, or than on any of the many shitty Chrome/GoogleTV boxes.
Otherwise I have almost no Apple stuff anymore. Heck, not for 5+ years.
Have you never been to a Genius Bar? My overall perception of Apple fans are people that they drink $8 lattes daily & write a couple blog posts per month while drinking wine & feel accomplished as a result.
I used to work at the Genius bar
They refuse to integrate with any universal search on tv boxes.
@timewarp @misk a walled garden it is but frankly, Apple equipment just works. I’ve never had trouble with my Apple devices like I did with my PCs.
I’m not saying their OS sucks. If it were not tied to their hardware, I’d prob use it too. But because they bundle them & upcharge their hardware a lot, it just isn’t worth it IMO. I’d rather move towards an open-source OS or at least one not tied to hardware.
@timewarp it’s probably because it’s so well integrated with their hardware, which is superior, that it works so well. My problem is the walled garden aspect their apps. If you don’t use standardized formats e.g. odf, it’s really useless for widespread adoption.
Yep. OS is hugely optimized to run best on Apple hardware.
Is this a feature of the TV box only or can it be done on a phone?
Set top box only as far as I know.
The TV app on my iPhone also shows content from Hulu so I think it’s across all Apple platforms
I think it might be country specific since I don’t have an option to enable it. I remember that Prime didn’t integrate with TV+ for years here while it did in other countries.
For the services that aren’t as big of an asshole, it does work on phones and iPads as well.
Netflix doesn’t want you to browse it’s library for free … because you’ll realize it’s 98% shit
98%? You’re being generous.
I’m talking about shows like Squid Game. Arcane, Stranger Things, The Umbrella Academy (minus S4), Love Death and Robots and Castlevania…
…that’s the 2%
Top tip: you can have all your shows in one place if you use Jellyfin. ☠️