Facing Billions in DMA Fines, Apple Lets EU iPhone Users Install Apps Outside the App Store (www.cnet.com)
from Rade0nfighter@lemmy.world to apple_enthusiast@lemmy.world on 30 Jun 21:42
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HellsBelle@sh.itjust.works on 30 Jun 21:58 next collapse

Apple notes that off-store downloads work only inside the EU, and disappear if you stay outside the bloc for more than 30 days.

Assholes.

parody@lemmings.world on 30 Jun 22:34 next collapse

Anyone know the whole range of the enabling technologies for the geofencing?

Look at the nearby WiFi networks, check GPS, see what cell towers are around, (Apple account registration location)…?

disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world on 30 Jun 23:42 next collapse

Core Location is a multi-sensor system process in iOS. GPS, WiFi, cellular, Bluetooth, accelerometer, altimeter in order (as of ~5 years ago)

shea@piefed.blahaj.zone on 01 Jul 02:16 collapse
parody@lemmings.world on 30 Jun 22:36 next collapse

I wonder if Europeans should have a case when they want to do 31 days of business travel and Apple cut off their apps.

“No problem, here’s the exemption form; please attach your itinerary and a blood sample”

rebelsimile@sh.itjust.works on 30 Jun 22:57 collapse

That’s what Apple Vision Pro is for. Now, you can stay home and imagine your destination in isolation. And you’ll have to stay home because the battery life will keep you tethered to a pretty reliable power source.

parody@lemmings.world on 01 Jul 01:41 collapse

META -$70b on Metaverse likes the sound of Apple trying the same :)

AwesomeLowlander@sh.itjust.works on 01 Jul 05:03 collapse

They should hit Apple with the penalty for breaking the spirit of the agreement.

parody@lemmings.world on 30 Jun 22:32 next collapse

In April, the European Commission fined Apple €500 million ($585 million) for blocking developers from steering users to cheaper payment options, and warned that daily penalties of up to 5% of global revenue could follow if it failed to comply.

LMAOOOO get fucked, Apple we love your hardware and your software (when properly tested first), but given you’ve had a great run with the fees now it’s time to let us own our hardware at least a little.

5%? Not messing around. No wrist slap there.

Let’s go freedom, let’s go Apple-but-the-right-way (please)!

Onomatopoeia@lemmy.cafe on 30 Jun 22:37 collapse

5% daily, of global revenue.

Now that’s how penalties should work.

rdri@lemmy.world on 30 Jun 23:41 collapse

With all respect for people who hate Apple (myself included), this doesn’t look like how penalties should work. I doubt there are adequate standards of how an entity like EU can request any percentage of global revenue from anyone. What would you do if you request any more than Apple considers adequate and decides it’s more profitable to just leave your market?

greenskye@lemmy.zip on 30 Jun 23:43 next collapse

I mean it’s kind of classic issues with unions. It doesn’t work if only place is doing it, but the more that do, the less market they have access to. Europe is a pretty decent sized market, so it may still hurt. And if they do leave, well China certainly has a lot of their own homegrown solutions, so that’s not an entirely unreasonable option.

Ulrich@feddit.org on 01 Jul 00:46 next collapse

What would you do if you request any more than Apple considers adequate and decides it’s more profitable to just leave your market?

Cheer?

parody@lemmings.world on 01 Jul 01:45 next collapse

No “just” is the beauty

<img alt="" src="https://lemmings.world/pictrs/image/61ea13c5-c58f-4fa8-9ce7-c1c91c5ef8ca.png">

Sure, they can try, I suppose… but that’s a lotta billions and a huge % of global rev

ActuallyGoingCrazy@sh.itjust.works on 01 Jul 02:15 collapse

Whoever picked that color scheme is nuts. I can barely tell which are supposed to be the Americas and Europe.

parody@lemmings.world on 01 Jul 02:22 collapse

Ya it’s bad

AwesomeLowlander@sh.itjust.works on 01 Jul 05:02 next collapse

I don’t know, I’m still waiting for you to describe the problem.

rdri@lemmy.world on 01 Jul 06:23 collapse

The problem is how government entities dictate media corporations what to do. This time it’s pro-consumer, the other time it might not be so.

freeman@sh.itjust.works on 01 Jul 07:27 collapse

That’s not a problem, its exactly what governments exist for. Creating and enforcing laws.

The problem us that some corporations manage to manipulate governments by bribery to avoid regulation, not that government or regulations exist.

Are you a libertarian?

rdri@lemmy.world on 01 Jul 08:31 collapse

Nah I’m just Russian. Our government is an example of a problem, they tried to manipulate Apple and Google, and was successful to some extent.

freeman@sh.itjust.works on 01 Jul 07:21 next collapse

They cannot request it from anyone, only for those who chose to operate in EU jurisdiction.

Apple is free to not operate in the EU.

rdri@lemmy.world on 01 Jul 08:29 collapse

And I would welcome that. Most other people will probably not though.

Rade0nfighter@lemmy.world on 01 Jul 07:34 collapse

Problem is companies like to use global accounting schemes to hide/move profit.

If it was “5% of profit in the EU” then overnight Apple would suddenly make 0 profit in the EU due to “brand licensing fees” to Apple Cayman Islands Incorporated.

sunzu2@thebrainbin.org on 30 Jun 22:33 collapse

Get fucked Tim Apple, a disgusting corpo parasite.