iOS 18 in one image. What are you most excited for?
from brbposting@sh.itjust.works to apple_enthusiast@lemmy.world on 13 Jun 18:03
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mp3@lemmy.ca on 13 Jun 18:05 next collapse

No mention of the calculator app on iPadOS smh

WaterSword@discuss.tchncs.de on 13 Jun 18:20 collapse

Because this is the ios screen and there is a seperate one for iPadOS? Or am I missing the joke?

brbposting@sh.itjust.works on 13 Jun 18:23 collapse

I took it as a funny

garretble@lemmy.world on 13 Jun 18:07 next collapse

RCS, I suppose, so we can stop hearing about it.

JaymesRS@literature.cafe on 13 Jun 22:04 collapse

grEen BuBbLes = cYbeR bUllYIng

LodeMike@lemmy.today on 13 Jun 23:44 next collapse

It actually kind of is

Mongostein@lemmy.ca on 14 Jun 04:00 collapse

Literally nobody cares what colour your bubbles are.

What is annoying is how group chats suck when people on android are involved.

I’m mostly looking forward to that being fixed

brbposting@sh.itjust.works on 14 Jun 04:28 next collapse

You a teen in the US?

Saw a teen tell Tim Cook kids in his school were being bullied over not necessarily one hue vs. another shade but presumably the degraded functionality (simplified as “green bubbles”).

Group chats are so huge - and including one non-Apple user means nobody gets bells & whistles.

It’s absolutely ridiculous! But it’s hard to argue - it’s happening, making less money would stop it, but money matters more than kids.

Mongostein@lemmy.ca on 14 Jun 05:51 collapse

Oh get off it. This is “video games cause school shootings” levels of wrongness

brbposting@sh.itjust.works on 14 Jun 06:18 next collapse

I just don’t think you and I are the people who see this stuff.

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<img alt="" src="https://sh.itjust.works/pictrs/image/5a2c317f-adb6-48cf-b83c-53027b16325c.jpeg">

When it comes to video games and violence, you have to try - try to draw lines.

What kind of line needs to be drawn to deduce “who’s green?” is related to a feature?

dev_null@lemmy.ml on 14 Jun 06:20 collapse

You said it yourself, group chats suck when Android users are involved. So Android users aren’t added to the class group chat and they miss out on sharing notes, events, and much of social interaction with their peers.

brbposting@sh.itjust.works on 14 Jun 06:20 next collapse

Hmm it’s like I missed the second half of your comment earlier… we agree on functionality being more important than color.

I don’t think “color” would ever have been an issue with feature parity.

brbposting@sh.itjust.works on 14 Jun 17:12 collapse

Sorry 4 misreading this I think

Beaver@lemmy.ca on 14 Jun 03:49 collapse

Chat bubble classism/racism is unacceptable

JaymesRS@literature.cafe on 14 Jun 04:16 collapse

TIL that Android phone users are a new racial category.

(Not sure if sarcasm)

Beaver@lemmy.ca on 14 Jun 05:04 collapse

Android phones are cheaper upfront that then leads to the people of colour often using them in the global south

Bahalex@lemmy.world on 14 Jun 05:32 collapse

And people of whiteness in the global north, as well.

odium@programming.dev on 13 Jun 18:08 next collapse

RCS support

BillMurray@lemmy.world on 14 Jun 14:56 collapse

Does anyone else have this problem: Some messages only showing up for iPhone users in the group SMS chat? For example someone will answer a question that the Android users never see. Then those questions randomly show up a week later for Android users? Hopefully RCS will fix that.

LostWanderer@lemmynsfw.com on 13 Jun 18:15 next collapse

RCS, Better Home Screen and Control Center customization, finally getting locked and hidden apps on iOS as Android has had those for years! The Photos update is pretty good, in addition to Lock Screen customization.

tigerjerusalem@lemmy.world on 13 Jun 18:24 next collapse

None, still waiting for third party stores.

navi@lemmy.tespia.org on 13 Jun 23:29 collapse

Cries in non-European

WolfLink@sh.itjust.works on 13 Jun 18:36 next collapse

Control screen customization I guess? Maybe the hiking thing? (But like there are already decent 3rd party apps for that…)

shinratdr@lemmy.ca on 13 Jun 19:26 next collapse

Apple Intelligence. The image generation and bullshit text generator aspects I’m over (although Genmoji looks cute), but the ability to process complex natural language requests using an on-device LLM so I can perform tasks via voice without laborious specificity?

I’m in. If they nail this it will be the biggest leap forward in human-computer interaction since the GUI.

The other features I already like in DB1 aren’t on this feature slide either:

  • The new Calendar app with a proper multi-day view is great and has already replaced the “list” view I’ve used since 2009. I like “list” but it makes every day look busy visually, and makes it difficult to see gaps in your day.
  • New Calculator app finally has most features people would like. Multi line, easy editing of mistakes, a history, etc. They only talked about the handwritten stuff for iPad in the keynote but the whole thing is vastly improved across all iOS platforms.
  • This one is on the slide but the new Photos app is great, although some don’t like it I found most features in Photos were buried and people never used the tabs in the app, just scrolling down to see everything actually works quite well. Most users seem to think that the first tab is the only one you need to use and everything else is just settings and whatnot so it’s best to just adapt to that at this point.
brbposting@sh.itjust.works on 13 Jun 19:33 collapse

Well said!

willya@lemmyf.uk on 13 Jun 20:13 next collapse

Not listed, but Music Haptics. I’m joking, but it’s a thing now. Super glitchy to activate in beta 1.

TCB13@lemmy.world on 13 Jun 20:22 next collapse

So many features, yet the calculator is still a piece of shit. What’s the thing with Apple? Is it THAT hard to make something like this: apps.apple.com/us/app/…/id576675190

<img alt="" src="https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/ddd6a5d3-733b-43d2-bac3-701232526dd6.png">

Something decent that actually shows you the entire expression with the ability to place the cursor anywhere to edit previously inserted numbers?

I just don’t get it, their calculator is the most useless thing ever, you type a number, hit “+” and the number is gone.

garretble@lemmy.world on 13 Jun 20:35 next collapse

Lots of updates coming to the ios calculator with ios18. They obviously focused on the ipad version because it has the written math notes stuff, but a lot of those features are coming to the iphone, too.

macrumors.com/…/ios-18-calculator-these-conversio…

The current calculator has had a lot more options if you turn the phone sideways, but no one ever does that. Personally, I’m a pCalc guy.

ccunning@lemmy.world on 13 Jun 21:18 next collapse

No shame in leaving room for third party apps. I don’t really expect the built-ins to be all encompassing…

LodeMike@lemmy.today on 13 Jun 23:45 collapse

I fucking do if you can’t install whatever you want.

ccunning@lemmy.world on 14 Jun 00:04 collapse

You might want to check out Android

LodeMike@lemmy.today on 14 Jun 00:11 collapse

I am on Android

ccunning@lemmy.world on 14 Jun 00:21 collapse

Nice!

LodeMike@lemmy.today on 14 Jun 03:54 collapse

Why am I getting down voted? What did I do?

LodeMike@lemmy.today on 13 Jun 23:45 next collapse

They want you to buy the app for that 30% commission.

brbposting@sh.itjust.works on 15 Jun 22:20 collapse

Devious

shinratdr@lemmy.ca on 14 Jun 01:46 collapse

All of that has been fixed in the iOS 18 calculator, they just didn’t talk about it in the keynote. It has history, multi-line, and your can place the cursor anywhere and edit expressions.

Give it a shot, you might be pleasantly surprised.

TCB13@lemmy.world on 15 Jun 10:43 collapse

No, it hasn’t. It’s certainly better but not up to what the other one I liked is able to do.

shinratdr@lemmy.ca on 15 Jun 15:11 collapse

I said the complaints you listed had fixed in the new one. I didn’t say it was suddenly as good as a dedicated calculator app.

ccunning@lemmy.world on 13 Jun 21:12 next collapse

Definitely Emoji Tapbacks

kinttach@lemm.ee on 13 Jun 21:49 next collapse

The one that’s not shown: Standalone Passwords app

brbposting@sh.itjust.works on 13 Jun 22:40 next collapse

Yes!

Beaver@lemmy.ca on 14 Jun 03:51 collapse

Eh on Mac it looks like a downgrade to keychain

ThrowawayInTheYear23@lemmy.world on 13 Jun 21:53 next collapse

I rather have a real firefox browser.

brbposting@sh.itjust.works on 13 Jun 22:40 next collapse

And uBlock Origin🤤

Beaver@lemmy.ca on 14 Jun 03:50 collapse

Well Japan has your back now!

Eggyhead@kbin.run on 13 Jun 21:56 next collapse

Auto sorting in Mail, to be honest.

misk@sopuli.xyz on 14 Jun 07:14 collapse

Apple recreating Google Inbox would be an ultimate power move.

PerogiBoi@lemmy.ca on 13 Jun 22:10 next collapse

Locked apps! All the porn, and all the incriminating evidence of my affair. Thank u Tim Apple! Very cool.

Beaver@lemmy.ca on 14 Jun 03:50 collapse

Jealous partners and judgmental family are going to have a harder time.

Fluid@aussie.zone on 13 Jun 23:11 next collapse

I dont really care about any of this crap. Let me install my own internet browsers, fix the poor keyboard hit boxes, let me build my own predictive text library…

LodeMike@lemmy.today on 13 Jun 23:43 collapse

iOS devices would be actually good if they literally just let you install .ipa s from anywhere (.apk equivelent for iOS). Not even unlocking the APIs that ensure Apple apps stay on top, just allowing .ipa installation.

shinratdr@lemmy.ca on 14 Jun 01:44 next collapse

What IPAs do you want to install? This is a real question, I know there are a handful of apps that you need to install from outside the App Store but over the years as restrictions have loosened that has dropped to almost nothing for me.

I used to install nzbUnity which has been fully replaced by LunaSea at this point, and with the rule change allowing emulators they really took a ton of wind out of the sails of the 3rd party App Store push.

brbposting@sh.itjust.works on 14 Jun 03:35 next collapse

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Wow Apple must’ve accidentally accepted this one heh

shinratdr@lemmy.ca on 14 Jun 03:39 collapse

I think there was an internal rule change a while back because there are a few others as well. Ruddarr is shaping up every well, and LunaSea has been there for years now.

LodeMike@lemmy.today on 14 Jun 03:45 collapse

IDK there aren’t that many because iOS doesn’t allow it.

shinratdr@lemmy.ca on 14 Jun 04:06 collapse

That’s true I suppose, but there pretty much isn’t anything I’m like “damn I wish that was on iOS but Apple’s rules won’t allow it” anymore.

I can think of a few examples that I have on my Android phone. TouchHLE, Mario 64 decompiled and Yuzu come to mind. But those are just fun to play with and not exactly things I care deeply about.

Just to be clear, this didn’t used to be the case. I used to jailbreak & sideload for years. But I just… don’t need to anymore. It’s all there. I figured it was worth asking if there was something I didn’t know I was missing.

Not only that, there is an upside too. The fact that IPAs can’t be easily installed on iOS drastically reduces piracy, and companies are more apt to release non-ad-supported, premium titles on the platform.

I have RE Village, RE4 and Death Stranding on my phone right now. I don’t see those coming to Android any time soon. So I would say it’s a double-edged sword.

LodeMike@lemmy.today on 14 Jun 04:48 collapse

NewPipe

shinratdr@lemmy.ca on 14 Jun 04:52 collapse

Doesn’t have much appeal if you pay for YT Premium. I also used to sideload Cercube so I get the appeal, but yeah. I would count that in the category of “++” apps that pretty much exist to circumvent ads or avoid paying for subscriptions.

I don’t have anything against them but it doesn’t help the image of open access being only useful for piracy or avoiding paying for stuff.

LodeMike@lemmy.today on 14 Jun 05:02 collapse

I don’t pay for YT premium or really anything. They still show promotions “Get YouTube TV 🥺🥺🥺” to subscribers. And all the tracking, etc.

GlitterInfection@lemmy.world on 15 Jun 19:52 collapse

They would be android devices, then.

So no. They wouldn’t be good.

0oWow@lemmy.world on 13 Jun 23:51 next collapse

Pixel 9

Marsupial@quokk.au on 14 Jun 01:13 collapse

Can’t wait for Google to cancel Android and replace it with a messaging service.

ultratiem@lemmy.ca on 14 Jun 01:31 next collapse

Why does this sub exist? To shit on Apple? Literally all the comments are neckbeards complaining about this or that. Wtf?

Beaver@lemmy.ca on 14 Jun 03:49 next collapse

Nah this community shills for Apple too much

ultratiem@lemmy.ca on 14 Jun 05:18 collapse

I don’t think that word means what you think it means

Mongostein@lemmy.ca on 14 Jun 04:02 next collapse

Because it keeps showing up on /all and the apple haters just can’t help themselves. People enjoying things drives them insane.

ultratiem@lemmy.ca on 14 Jun 05:18 collapse

Look at all these kids having a good time! Not on my watch!!! 🙃

Bahalex@lemmy.world on 14 Jun 05:29 collapse

Maybe with the new watch OS it could be on your watch too!

RamblingPanda@lemmynsfw.com on 14 Jun 14:33 collapse

Not a neckbearder and not really a hater, but oh my god I fear the day my family’s group chat finds out about text effects.

Beaver@lemmy.ca on 14 Jun 03:48 next collapse

RCS, Statelite and Locked Apps.

Mbourgon@lemmy.world on 14 Jun 04:14 next collapse

Honestly, I just hope Siri transcription for iMessage gets better, and that the music app will actually do a decent job of recognizing the artist/album/thing I want to listen to.

brbposting@sh.itjust.works on 14 Jun 04:25 collapse

Can’t wait for great dictation (please! 🤞)

xor@lemmy.blahaj.zone on 14 Jun 07:57 next collapse

Did apple maps really not support walking until now?!

Somethingcheezie@lemmy.world on 14 Jun 10:35 next collapse

They just invented the idea (10 year fanboy here) :(

fer0n@lemmy.world on 14 Jun 11:10 collapse

Hiking ≠ walking

They had walking directions probably from the start, but there’s new topographical map now.

HootinNHollerin@lemmy.world on 14 Jun 09:47 next collapse

The satellite thing will save lives

brbposting@sh.itjust.works on 14 Jun 15:44 collapse

Great feature. Will note they did have emergency satellite messages before, iPhone 14/15.

Hmm in most countries:

Satellite connectivity isn’t offered on iPhone models purchased in Armenia, Belarus, China mainland, Hong Kong, Macao, Kyrgyzstan, Kazakhstan, and Russia.

Apparently no paid agreements to use satellite around those regions.

Neon@lemmy.world on 15 Jun 21:14 next collapse

The new Quick Settings, reminder integration in Calendar, maybe the coloured Icons

bluemellophone@lemmy.world on 22 Jun 04:32 collapse

You should try FantastiCal

aluminium@lemmy.world on 16 Jun 09:53 next collapse

The new homescreen grid for sure.

Eggyhead@lemmy.world on 16 Jun 12:42 collapse

So apparently parallax is quietly coming back? I’ve decided that’s now the thing I’m most excited for.

brbposting@sh.itjust.works on 16 Jun 13:22 collapse

Heh disabled that so didn’t know it was gone

Battery was one reason, probably minimal of course. Might not’ve appreciated effect too, can’t remember now, would re-try

Eggyhead@lemmy.world on 16 Jun 14:24 collapse

I never got into fidget spinners, but having parallax on my iPhone’s Home Screen probably had a similar effect for me. I’d just play with it every once in a while and enjoyed it. I’ve always been mindful of battery drain, but I consciously made an exception for parallax.