German WWII Soldier’s Grave Found in Poland with Mesolithic Tools, Roman and Byzantine Coins, and Other Artifacts (www.labrujulaverde.com)
from fossilesque@mander.xyz to archaeology@mander.xyz on 29 Nov 19:18
https://mander.xyz/post/21303932

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DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social on 29 Nov 20:40 collapse

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm.

Anyone else know the name for a "German WW2 soldier?’

Or how one might have “acquired” that collection?

fossilesque@mander.xyz on 29 Nov 20:48 next collapse

Honestly, I do not doubt many things were pocketed while digging trenches. These do not look like looted items. Zzz, too sleepy.

DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social on 29 Nov 21:37 collapse

The tools were just near the grave, the coins are almost certainly war/genocide loot.

fossilesque@mander.xyz on 29 Nov 21:42 collapse

Ah yes, I see at the end of the article. Missed that. :)

Tiltinyall@beehaw.org on 29 Nov 21:10 next collapse

Looting, a popular past time of all soldiers.

DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social on 29 Nov 21:34 collapse

Bro’s both siding the fucking Nazis.

Tiltinyall@beehaw.org on 29 Nov 21:37 collapse

That’s how wars go isn’t it?

DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social on 29 Nov 21:38 next collapse

You’re why smart people avoid Beehaw.

Tiltinyall@beehaw.org on 29 Nov 21:39 collapse

Yay I got called a name and everything got solved, carry on soldier.

DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social on 29 Nov 21:51 collapse

Uh huh.

What name did you get called?

ArtieShaw@fedia.io on 29 Nov 22:04 collapse

It is. And coins are small enough and common enough to be found/stolen/bought and easily carried off as loot.

Plenty of ancient coins were "re-distributed" to the west in the last 20 years from Afghanistan and Iraq. I knew a guy from work who had a small collection he bought while serving.

I also happened to be visiting a local coin shop and overheard an unintentionally funny conversation about loot.

Rando: I have a <lowers voice> 'German flag' that I'm interested in selling.
Clerk: Those are pretty common, so we probably can't give you much.
Rando: It's an OLD <lowers voice> 'German flag'.
Clerk: Look, I'm guessing it's the Nazi one? Those are super common because every soldier brought one back as a souvenir.

If it's not already apparent, I like coins. And if I were a common soldier wrapped up in a war, I would absolutely pick up any interesting spare change I came across. Wouldn't murder anyone for it, but if it looked abandoned? Absolutely.

The_Che_Banana@beehaw.org on 29 Nov 22:52 next collapse

I do nazi what you mean?

sik0fewl@lemmy.ca on 30 Nov 01:44 next collapse

The Nazis were a political party and the article does not mention him being a part of the S.S.

And to answer your second question - Nazi time travel.

DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social on 30 Nov 02:24 collapse

Lol, Nazi simps never change. Bro’s about to try and tell us Rommel was a swell guy.

propter_hog@hexbear.net on 30 Nov 01:53 next collapse

Anyone who uses the term “German WW2 soldier” is a Nazi apologist.

nednobbins@lemm.ee on 30 Nov 02:32 collapse

The article is directly quoting the Polish archaeologists who discovered the cite.

propter_hog@hexbear.net on 30 Nov 03:32 collapse

Polish

<img alt="noticing" src="https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/337e6373-23fd-4f29-b0db-8b25cb88edcd.png">

ToucheGoodSir@lemy.lol on 30 Nov 06:34 next collapse

Hexbearer no like because soviets also invaded Poland for some reason? Queue history lesson claiming the soviets had a non aggression pact with the Nazis and spit roasted Poland so they could ramp up their wartime industry to fight the Nazis

nednobbins@lemm.ee on 30 Nov 16:27 collapse

Are you seriously insinuating that Poland isn’t one of the the two most Nazi hating countries on the planet?

Let me guess, you’ve never set foot in Poland.

propter_hog@hexbear.net on 30 Nov 18:21 collapse

The Anti-Defamation League estimated the number of far-right skinheads in Poland at 2,000, the fifth highest number after Germany, Hungary, the Czech Republic and the United States.[13] Since the late 2000s, native White power skinhead, White supremacy, and Neo-Nazi groups were largely absorbed into more casual and better organized “Autonomous Nationalists”. National Radical Camp march in Kraków, July 2007

On the political level, the biggest victories achieved so far by the far-right were in the 2001, 2005, 2015, 2019 and 2023 elections. The League of Polish Families won 38 seats in 2001, and 34 in 2005. In 2015, entering parliament from the list of Kukiz’15, the far-right National Movement gained 5 seats out of Kukiz’s 42. In April 2016, the National Movement leadership decided to break-off with Kukiz’s movement, but only one MP followed the party’s instructions. The ones that decided to stay with Kukiz’15, together with few other Kukiz’s MPs, formed parliamentary nationalist association called “National Democracy” (Endecja).[14] In 2019, the Confederation had the best performance of any far-right coalition to date, earning 1,256,953 votes which was 6.81% of the total vote in an election that saw a historically high turnout. Together the coalition (although de jure a party) earned 11 seats, 5 for KORWiN, 5 for National Movement, and 1 for Confederation of the Polish Crown.

en.wikipedia.org/…/Far-right_politics_in_Poland

Never been to Poland, but it’s no real surprise that every Polish person I’ve ever met has been politically somewhere between Trump-level fascist and neonazi. And I’ve met quite a few Poles, given I live in Chicago.

nednobbins@lemm.ee on 01 Dec 15:37 collapse

There are many reasons the ADL is considered an unreliable source en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-Defamation_League#Rece… and Wikipedia even banned them as a source on the Israeli-Palestinian conflict all together.

Poland had some the highest per-capita death rate of any country in WWII. They had some of the fiercest resistance to the Nazis of any nation on the planet. The Warsaw Uprising was one of the few resistance movements that was actually effective enough to piss off the Nazis. The remaining pieces of the Ghetto Walls still serve as a Holocaust memorial that spans large chunks of Warsaw.

A bunch of Polish Americans may or may not be Nazis. I have no idea. The Poles in Poland are some of the un-Naziest people you can find on the planet.

propter_hog@hexbear.net on 02 Dec 13:14 collapse

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nednobbins@lemm.ee on 30 Nov 02:28 collapse

“German WW2 soldier” is the term used by the Polish archaeologists who discovered the site. If they’re OK with it, the morality police can probably stand down.

The article says that the coins likely belonged to the solider because they coincide with areas of likely deployment. The rest of the stuff was just in the area and there’s no suggestion the soldier even knew about it. They just stumbled on it by accident because they were investigating the soldier.

propter_hog@hexbear.net on 30 Nov 05:11 collapse

Polish

There’s your sign

ToucheGoodSir@lemy.lol on 30 Nov 06:35 next collapse

The poles were notorious Nazi collaborators now?

nednobbins@lemm.ee on 30 Nov 16:24 collapse

Tell me you’ve never talked to anyone from Poland without saying you’ve never talked to anyone from Poland.