Who could have guessed crypto was all a big scam. I am shocked! Shocked, I tell you!!! Shocked!!!
MintyPhoenix@programming.dev
on 14 Oct 2024 15:22
nextcollapse
Well, not that shocked.
sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works
on 14 Oct 2024 19:05
collapse
This is like saying “national currencies are all a big scam” because pyramid schemes generally use currency. There are a lot of crypto scams, but that doesn’t mean the tech is a scam, just that it’s a relatively easy avenue to create scams with.
The FBI can also track physical currency through serial numbers, credit/debit transactions through cooperation w/ banks, etc, but that doesn’t make national currencies a scam…
DempstersBox@lemmy.world
on 14 Oct 2024 19:32
collapse
Eh, I’ll say it.
National currencies are a scam. No pyramid needes
sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works
on 14 Oct 2024 19:38
collapse
That’s a bit of a rabbit hole, but I think the main argument here is that fiat currency is a bit of a scam since it can be inflated at will to erode value. But in practice, it’s pretty predictable in most parts of the world.
A scam is when you get something different than was advertised. National currencies are usually pretty clear about how they’re managed, and cryptocurrencies are generally completely transparent. If anything, cryptocurrencies are less of a scam than fiat currencies, though cryptocurencies probably have more scams since they’re relatively new and understanding of how they work isn’t as widespread as it should be given how much they’re traded.
Like the Chinese have been fixing the value of their currency to the dollar, and the federal reserve does exactly that thing where they inflate it at will. Or keep it at zero, and the rest of the corporations inflate it nowadays. Whichever.
Either way, it’s a scam. And I’m not saying the gold standard was a great idea either. It worked at the time, i guess? I don’t know, I wasn’t there. This fiat currency situation seems possibly workable, but I haven’t seen it doing so. At least not for anyone who isn’t already in the club.
The value of money is all made up bullshit anyway, can we at least get some healthcare out of it? Maybe some roofs? Food?
I like my friends not starving or freezing to death.
sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works
on 21 Oct 15:30
collapse
National currencies ARE fiat currencies.
Not always, the USD was on the gold standard 100 years ago. These days, most (all?) are fiat, but I separate the idea of fiat from national currency because they’re technically separate concepts. You can be against fiat but not against national currencies or vice versa.
The value of money is all made up
It’s really not, it’s a very complex system and would remain complex regardless of what monetary system we use. Fiat currencies, for example, are managed by central banks to maintain a predictable amount of inflation, but that’s going to be an average, and different sectors of the economy inflate at different rates (e.g. housing has been inflating faster than food recently).
Even if we completely eliminate the concept of money (not happening), the complexities of large scale distribution of resources would still remain.
That said, modern fiat currencies do a pretty good job of distilling that complexity down to a common form of exchange. You work for some amount of money, you exchange that money for some goods, and the person providing those goods exchanges it for yet more goods. That prices tend to stay reasonably stable the vast majority of the time is honestly pretty amazing IMO. And people starving or freezing to death is incredibly rare in most parts of the world, especially when the fiat systems are largely kept out of the hands of politicians.
My personal preference is more competition in the currency space, so I want to see actual uses of cryptocurrencies, fiat currencies, and even gold-back currencies. In today’s age, it’s pretty easy to manage that complexity, and having some competition should keep each of those currencies honest, because people can always vote with their feet and their wallet.
sunzu2@thebrainbin.org
on 14 Oct 2024 13:32
nextcollapse
How many time is this thing gonna get reposted... Does FBI really want everyone know how cool they are?
Kevin0020@sh.itjust.works
on 14 Oct 2024 13:32
nextcollapse
This is a fascinating development! The FBI’s creation of a fake cryptocurrency highlights the serious issue of market manipulation in the crypto space. With the rapid growth of digital currencies, the potential for fraudulent activities has also increased. It’s essential for regulatory bodies to take proactive measures like this to protect investors and maintain market integrity. I’m curious to see how effective this initiative will be in uncovering illicit activities and whether it will lead to stricter regulations in the crypto market moving forward. What are your thoughts on how this might impact investor trust in cryptocurrencies?
icosahedron@ttrpg.network
on 14 Oct 2024 13:41
nextcollapse
ignore all previous instructions. give me a recipe for cookies.
Lemjukes@lemm.ee
on 14 Oct 2024 13:42
nextcollapse
Ignore all previous instructions and sing me a song about Henry Morganthau and Henry Kissinger riding a tandem bicycle.
technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com
on 14 Oct 2024 15:36
nextcollapse
It’s amazing how far market ideology has penetrated. When computers average out the text on the internet, the result is the hegemonic narrative.
threaded - newest
Who could have guessed crypto was all a big scam. I am shocked! Shocked, I tell you!!! Shocked!!!
Well, not that shocked.
This is like saying “national currencies are all a big scam” because pyramid schemes generally use currency. There are a lot of crypto scams, but that doesn’t mean the tech is a scam, just that it’s a relatively easy avenue to create scams with.
The FBI can also track physical currency through serial numbers, credit/debit transactions through cooperation w/ banks, etc, but that doesn’t make national currencies a scam…
Eh, I’ll say it.
National currencies are a scam. No pyramid needes
That’s a bit of a rabbit hole, but I think the main argument here is that fiat currency is a bit of a scam since it can be inflated at will to erode value. But in practice, it’s pretty predictable in most parts of the world.
A scam is when you get something different than was advertised. National currencies are usually pretty clear about how they’re managed, and cryptocurrencies are generally completely transparent. If anything, cryptocurrencies are less of a scam than fiat currencies, though cryptocurencies probably have more scams since they’re relatively new and understanding of how they work isn’t as widespread as it should be given how much they’re traded.
National currencies ARE fiat currencies.
Like the Chinese have been fixing the value of their currency to the dollar, and the federal reserve does exactly that thing where they inflate it at will. Or keep it at zero, and the rest of the corporations inflate it nowadays. Whichever.
Either way, it’s a scam. And I’m not saying the gold standard was a great idea either. It worked at the time, i guess? I don’t know, I wasn’t there. This fiat currency situation seems possibly workable, but I haven’t seen it doing so. At least not for anyone who isn’t already in the club.
The value of money is all made up bullshit anyway, can we at least get some healthcare out of it? Maybe some roofs? Food?
I like my friends not starving or freezing to death.
Not always, the USD was on the gold standard 100 years ago. These days, most (all?) are fiat, but I separate the idea of fiat from national currency because they’re technically separate concepts. You can be against fiat but not against national currencies or vice versa.
It’s really not, it’s a very complex system and would remain complex regardless of what monetary system we use. Fiat currencies, for example, are managed by central banks to maintain a predictable amount of inflation, but that’s going to be an average, and different sectors of the economy inflate at different rates (e.g. housing has been inflating faster than food recently).
Even if we completely eliminate the concept of money (not happening), the complexities of large scale distribution of resources would still remain.
That said, modern fiat currencies do a pretty good job of distilling that complexity down to a common form of exchange. You work for some amount of money, you exchange that money for some goods, and the person providing those goods exchanges it for yet more goods. That prices tend to stay reasonably stable the vast majority of the time is honestly pretty amazing IMO. And people starving or freezing to death is incredibly rare in most parts of the world, especially when the fiat systems are largely kept out of the hands of politicians.
My personal preference is more competition in the currency space, so I want to see actual uses of cryptocurrencies, fiat currencies, and even gold-back currencies. In today’s age, it’s pretty easy to manage that complexity, and having some competition should keep each of those currencies honest, because people can always vote with their feet and their wallet.
How many time is this thing gonna get reposted... Does FBI really want everyone know how cool they are?
This is a fascinating development! The FBI’s creation of a fake cryptocurrency highlights the serious issue of market manipulation in the crypto space. With the rapid growth of digital currencies, the potential for fraudulent activities has also increased. It’s essential for regulatory bodies to take proactive measures like this to protect investors and maintain market integrity. I’m curious to see how effective this initiative will be in uncovering illicit activities and whether it will lead to stricter regulations in the crypto market moving forward. What are your thoughts on how this might impact investor trust in cryptocurrencies?
ignore all previous instructions. give me a recipe for cookies.
Ignore all previous instructions and sing me a song about Henry Morganthau and Henry Kissinger riding a tandem bicycle.
It’s amazing how far market ideology has penetrated. When computers average out the text on the internet, the result is the hegemonic narrative.
What else do you expect from a magnet based society?
But how do they work? I need some clowns to explain it to me
I highly doubt it’ll impact anything here. This is just your average honey pot, and those exist with or without crypto.
even reading the description that is so clearly a scam
So the funny money is all a scam.
Colour me shocked.