Ohhh, itās a link with a set text. Didnāt see that or it was edited in. So very tiny
Ghoelian@lemmy.dbzer0.com
on 28 Aug 2024 13:14
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Ahh, was wondering what was up with those comments on an issue I made.
Pretty much immediately got 2 comments with shady mediafire links in them.
tyler@programming.dev
on 28 Aug 2024 13:38
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I recently saw an entire org set up with individual repos that were clearly meant to be found in search results for stuff like ācomparison toolā (I donāt remember my exact search). It would then lead to a repo that just had a license and readme. The readme would be a full readme that explained the software but linked elsewhere to get it. The link was clearly a malware or phishing attempt.
furikuri@programming.dev
on 28 Aug 2024 20:26
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Lmao. They couldnāt even copy code from a random MIT licensed project? Sometimes I think these scammers arenāt even trying
Peruvian_Skies@sh.itjust.works
on 28 Aug 2024 18:35
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How many people are smart enough to open an issue on GitHub but stupid enough to run code from a password-protected file in a random Mediafire link?
UnrepentantAlgebra@lemmy.world
on 28 Aug 2024 20:48
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GitHub is many things nowadays. Some people use it sort of like a blog where they can easily post long pages of text, sometimes itās the first thing that shows up in the search results when you search for a computer/phone problem.
Iām gonna sound old here but the younger generations are in general less computer literate than they were back in my day, and a lot of people have no qualms about downloading and running random exeās from discord or mediafire.
sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works
on 29 Aug 2024 05:08
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Yeah, in my office, nobody had heard of dvorak (my keyboard layout), and they think Iām crazy for using vim. They donāt seem to understand how git actually works, and when I describe how compilers work, they think Iām speaking a foreign language. And these are people with years of SW development experience and CS degrees, a couple of them have masters.
Iām older than many of them, but Iām not that old (millenial), yet Iām positive I knew all of this stuff back when I was at their point, as did most of my coworkers. Not sure if itās a ākids these daysā thing, or if I was just in a hacker-minded group earlier in my career, but Iām quite disappointed in the depth of technical knowledge SW devs have these days. Oh, and I hired most of them, and they were the better ones of the bunch I was presented with.
To be fair, weāre a Python + JavaScript shop, but I still expect devs to be curious about how things work under the hood.
sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works
on 29 Aug 2024 14:50
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Yeah, I guess so. I even gave a training to our team a year or so back.
UnrepentantAlgebra@lemmy.world
on 29 Aug 2024 16:43
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Ok you might be a little crazy for using vim in 2024 :D but it depends on the context. Editing a quick config file from command line? Sure. Working on a big project? No way, give me an IDE with real navigation and auto complete functionality.
I think part of the reason is just that the barrier to entry for software development continues to drop with IDEs, dependency/package managers, etc. Itās really easy to get a working knowledge of your tools without knowing how they really work under the hood, which is good and bad.
sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works
on 29 Aug 2024 16:53
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Vim can have āreal navigation,ā I have a plugin installed that lets me jump to method/class/variable definitions, and it works really well. The interaction is certainly different (IMO better, I just hit āgdā and Iām there), but Iām able to get the features my coworkers like from whatever IDE they have with a few minutes of installing a plugin and editing some configs.
Iāve tried IDEs and editors, and honestly, Iām much more productive with my vim setup. Most of my time is spent reading and navigating code, and thatās really nice w/ Vim. To each their own, but everyone should master the tools they use, and I find myself having to help other devs with their own configs (e.g. the Python plugin by default in VSCode ignores most type errors, and we use optional types everywhere and theyāre wrong more often than notā¦).
So yeah, Iām pretty sad that many new devs these days donāt really understand their tools, and sometimes donāt even understand the platform theyāre using because their IDE handwaves it away. I suppose thatās good for me as a senior engineer because I can provide value fixing the random issues the other devs canāt, but it does make me sad that maybe, just maybe, AI will have a chance at eliminating so many jobs because the average dev doesnāt dig much deeper than the average AI does. Iām not too worried about my job, but I am worried that Iām going to have to fire people because a machine is better at their job than themā¦
JulesTheModest@sh.itjust.works
on 29 Aug 2024 19:27
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Yes, I think you are right. I think itās an attention span issue.
The reaaon tech literacy has dropped so much is actually because weāve gotten too good at UX. You donāt need to know nearly as much to do most things with computers now, so most people donāt bother learning about how to properly use a computer anymore. Setting up an email address or a router or a website has gotten significantly less complicated so the average person can do it without needing to learn any new skills. Hell, phones are so streamlined that most people probably donāt even realize their phone has a file browser.
Iād argue we havenāt gotten good with UX, weāve gotten fancy with it. No way in hell many of the current popular stuff is good UX. But shiny sells
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@True source: https://mastodon.social/@bagder/113038399943924413
I have that in my postš
Not copy paste able.
I can copy it in jerboa
I can copy in Boost.
Ohhh, itās a link with a set text. Didnāt see that or it was edited in. So very tiny
Ahh, was wondering what was up with those comments on an issue I made.
Pretty much immediately got 2 comments with shady mediafire links in them.
I recently saw an entire org set up with individual repos that were clearly meant to be found in search results for stuff like ācomparison toolā (I donāt remember my exact search). It would then lead to a repo that just had a license and readme. The readme would be a full readme that explained the software but linked elsewhere to get it. The link was clearly a malware or phishing attempt.
Lmao. They couldnāt even copy code from a random MIT licensed project? Sometimes I think these scammers arenāt even trying
How many people are smart enough to open an issue on GitHub but stupid enough to run code from a password-protected file in a random Mediafire link?
GitHub is many things nowadays. Some people use it sort of like a blog where they can easily post long pages of text, sometimes itās the first thing that shows up in the search results when you search for a computer/phone problem.
Iām gonna sound old here but the younger generations are in general less computer literate than they were back in my day, and a lot of people have no qualms about downloading and running random exeās from discord or mediafire.
Yeah, in my office, nobody had heard of dvorak (my keyboard layout), and they think Iām crazy for using vim. They donāt seem to understand how git actually works, and when I describe how compilers work, they think Iām speaking a foreign language. And these are people with years of SW development experience and CS degrees, a couple of them have masters.
Iām older than many of them, but Iām not that old (millenial), yet Iām positive I knew all of this stuff back when I was at their point, as did most of my coworkers. Not sure if itās a ākids these daysā thing, or if I was just in a hacker-minded group earlier in my career, but Iām quite disappointed in the depth of technical knowledge SW devs have these days. Oh, and I hired most of them, and they were the better ones of the bunch I was presented with.
To be fair, weāre a Python + JavaScript shop, but I still expect devs to be curious about how things work under the hood.
So youāre the guy from the alt-text in xkcd.com/1597/
Yeah, I guess so. I even gave a training to our team a year or so back.
Ok you might be a little crazy for using vim in 2024 :D but it depends on the context. Editing a quick config file from command line? Sure. Working on a big project? No way, give me an IDE with real navigation and auto complete functionality.
I think part of the reason is just that the barrier to entry for software development continues to drop with IDEs, dependency/package managers, etc. Itās really easy to get a working knowledge of your tools without knowing how they really work under the hood, which is good and bad.
Vim can have āreal navigation,ā I have a plugin installed that lets me jump to method/class/variable definitions, and it works really well. The interaction is certainly different (IMO better, I just hit āgdā and Iām there), but Iām able to get the features my coworkers like from whatever IDE they have with a few minutes of installing a plugin and editing some configs.
Iāve tried IDEs and editors, and honestly, Iām much more productive with my vim setup. Most of my time is spent reading and navigating code, and thatās really nice w/ Vim. To each their own, but everyone should master the tools they use, and I find myself having to help other devs with their own configs (e.g. the Python plugin by default in VSCode ignores most type errors, and we use optional types everywhere and theyāre wrong more often than notā¦).
So yeah, Iām pretty sad that many new devs these days donāt really understand their tools, and sometimes donāt even understand the platform theyāre using because their IDE handwaves it away. I suppose thatās good for me as a senior engineer because I can provide value fixing the random issues the other devs canāt, but it does make me sad that maybe, just maybe, AI will have a chance at eliminating so many jobs because the average dev doesnāt dig much deeper than the average AI does. Iām not too worried about my job, but I am worried that Iām going to have to fire people because a machine is better at their job than themā¦
Yes, I think you are right. I think itās an attention span issue.
The reaaon tech literacy has dropped so much is actually because weāve gotten too good at UX. You donāt need to know nearly as much to do most things with computers now, so most people donāt bother learning about how to properly use a computer anymore. Setting up an email address or a router or a website has gotten significantly less complicated so the average person can do it without needing to learn any new skills. Hell, phones are so streamlined that most people probably donāt even realize their phone has a file browser.
Iād argue we havenāt gotten good with UX, weāve gotten fancy with it. No way in hell many of the current popular stuff is good UX. But shiny sells
Edit: spelling because typing on phones is shit