They dont get to choose if they hand over data. If they dont do it voluntarily, they just get raided. Also handing data to any EU police means that the US will get that info too.
Jean_Lurk_Picard@lemmy.world
on 08 Jan 02:09
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Do you have any suggestions of an email service provider that is more respectful of privacy than proton? Or is this just the dystopia we live in where no data is private…
Proton is 100% respectful of user’s privacy. So is Tutanota and all others service providers that advertise about privacy as a main objective.
Nevertheless : at the end of the day they do need to comply with law enforcement.
Don’t be fooled by a false sense of privacy if you are crossing the line, for everything else you’re perfectly fine with proton, tutanota and alike.
Jean_Lurk_Picard@lemmy.world
on 08 Jan 06:38
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Thank you. I suppose you’re right. My imagination tends to spiral. How much longer until thinking the wrong thoughts becomes a matter of law enforcement.
gleisbettschottersammler1312@sh.itjust.works
on 08 Jan 06:55
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Signal also hands over user data if they get a warrent by the goverment, its just that Signal only collects data when the account was created and last active iirc (useless data). Im not saying Proton is perfect but similar with Proton, they can only hand over data they activly collect, so things like payment methods, recovery email, phonenumber… etc. The case with this climate activist, was they had a recovery email given to proton and thats the data that unmasked them. And as someone said, if they wouldnt comply they would just get raided.
unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de
on 08 Jan 07:44
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I mean you can just encrypt your emails. Then they at least cant read the contents of your conversations. But the only way to prevent your metadata from being yoinked is p2p messaging like briar. Using a server thats not controlled by you will always leave traces.
Jean_Lurk_Picard@lemmy.world
on 12 Jan 18:40
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beastlykings@sh.itjust.works
on 10 Jan 04:39
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Would this include things like the contents of messages?
I know it’s not end to end encrypted, but if they’re just gonna search the whole database for keywords, and then decide I’m of interest because I joked about abc or admitted to xyz in a private chat, then that’s a load of crap.
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So does proton(mail). Don’t be fooled.
*Citation needed.
www.bbc.com/news/technology-58476983
They dont get to choose if they hand over data. If they dont do it voluntarily, they just get raided. Also handing data to any EU police means that the US will get that info too.
Do you have any suggestions of an email service provider that is more respectful of privacy than proton? Or is this just the dystopia we live in where no data is private…
Proton is 100% respectful of user’s privacy. So is Tutanota and all others service providers that advertise about privacy as a main objective. Nevertheless : at the end of the day they do need to comply with law enforcement. Don’t be fooled by a false sense of privacy if you are crossing the line, for everything else you’re perfectly fine with proton, tutanota and alike.
Thank you. I suppose you’re right. My imagination tends to spiral. How much longer until thinking the wrong thoughts becomes a matter of law enforcement.
Signal also hands over user data if they get a warrent by the goverment, its just that Signal only collects data when the account was created and last active iirc (useless data). Im not saying Proton is perfect but similar with Proton, they can only hand over data they activly collect, so things like payment methods, recovery email, phonenumber… etc. The case with this climate activist, was they had a recovery email given to proton and thats the data that unmasked them. And as someone said, if they wouldnt comply they would just get raided.
I mean you can just encrypt your emails. Then they at least cant read the contents of your conversations. But the only way to prevent your metadata from being yoinked is p2p messaging like briar. Using a server thats not controlled by you will always leave traces.
Maybe it’s time I self-host
oh no, anyway
Would this include things like the contents of messages?
I know it’s not end to end encrypted, but if they’re just gonna search the whole database for keywords, and then decide I’m of interest because I joked about abc or admitted to xyz in a private chat, then that’s a load of crap.