Content Nation Backlash Highlights Mastodon's Toxicity
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from _ed@sopuli.xyz to fediverse@lemmy.ml on 03 Mar 2024 06:04
https://sopuli.xyz/post/9897240
from _ed@sopuli.xyz to fediverse@lemmy.ml on 03 Mar 2024 06:04
https://sopuli.xyz/post/9897240
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I can get people being cautious about for-profits trying to monetize user data, but trying to ruin this guy’s life over it, regardless of whether or not he was actually trying to make money from their data, is just sick. Anyone who thinks this is an acceptable method of protest is fucked up in the head.
wow, this Aurynn is an arrogant insufferable prick.
Who is aurynn? Never found the name in the article.
The “Even when Sascha tried to defend himself, he was ridiculed and mocked.” links to this mastodon thread: noc.social/@sash/112012866246940556
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I read that. I‘m not entirely sure what that means though. They host an instance with many users for a long time? Even if thats the case they might be very bad at social skills and got set off by misinterpreting his intenstions (not trying to defend, trying to understand so I can form an opinion and search for a solution)
Worth noting, they have since publicly apologized
Okay, i did not know. That makes things indeed a bit better.
Very interesting article! Very much fits with my own experience. The following things I decided to take as lessons learned from the fedi so far:
Especially when in a bad mood I need to get off lemmy if I cant emotionally distance myself from the bad actors.
Mastodon is a different kind of animal. They have centralized blocklists (like oliphant.social) to keep whole instances of trolls out. I havent had really bad situations since I implemented those but I have to report people nearly on a daily basis.
The reasons I have to assume are very varied and as such probably the solutions should be varied as well. Reasons I concludes from many discussions:
All these are solvable imo. Not all by the same thing and none of them immediately. Obviously people will disagree with me and I‘m fine with that. My personal thoughts on solutions are as follows:
Imo, these will be beneficial for lemmy. Mastodon might benefit from other ideas. Feel free to share those and discuss with me.
Disclaimer: Ridicule and Ad hominem attacks will not be replied to but immediately blocked.
PieFed features a Rational Discourse Toolkit on the sidebar
Sounds pretty great! Thanks for mentioning.
"Congratulations" for the trolls, who crashed Content Nation and for anyone condoning it. Now you have become the same bad actor you swore to destroy.
Damn. Poor guy! He didn’t deserve any of that. I hope this whole shit show results in positive changes and better documentation, but I don’t have high hopes, unfortunately. I hope Sascha is doing okay. Thank you for sharing this great article here!
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Nah, fuck that. If you’re not paying me for the data you’re harvesting from me, with or without intent to monetize it, I’m going DEFCON 1, dumping the mag, and emptying the silos. I am not accepting that Zuckerbergian shit out of anybody, I don’t care who they claim to be to me or what they claim to do. Too many capitalist pigs try too hard to put their trotters on my data for me to not anymore.
I think you missed a key part of the article. Content Nation was not harvesting data from the fediverse; it was just federating. It was a new project that had just spun up and didn't have a full feature set yet, but other than those missing features it was a normal fediverse instance.
In general I think we can just say micro blogging platforms are toxic. You hear this of Twitter, Bluesky, and mastodon.
I don’t think it’s fair to write off the entire medium like that. They all share a common ancestor in Twitter and I think it’s fair to say the toxicity is inherited from there.
Ahh Mastodon strikes again. I’m actually grateful that BlueSky opened up, it’s a much better experience imo.
EDIT: You can downvote me all you want, but it won’t change the fact that I like BlueSky more than Mastodon. lol
… For now
Take my upvote. There’s nothing about Mastodon that Bluesky doesn’t do for the average user and for me it’s got an actual laid-back vibe where Mastodon feels like people trying to indoctrinate me into a nerd cult.
Sidenote, it’d be nice if Pleroma or one of its forks had the stronghold on the fediverse instead. It’s got a lot more features than Mastodon and Bluesky.
Disagreeing doesn’t mean you should get downvoted. I disagree with your sentiment but upvote.
I think the main issue with Content Nation, personally, was that it looked like an SEO spam site that was using the fediverse as its source for content scraping.
That being said, that still doesn’t justify the toxicity from the paranoid nerds that targeted this guy. I was quite surprised when the Bridgy Fed stuff happened, but now, I’m not surprised in the slightest.