Dethroning lemmy.ml, lemm.ee rises as the second most active instance
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from Blaze@discuss.tchncs.de to fediverse@lemmy.ml on 25 Aug 2023 11:40
https://discuss.tchncs.de/post/2316474
from Blaze@discuss.tchncs.de to fediverse@lemmy.ml on 25 Aug 2023 11:40
https://discuss.tchncs.de/post/2316474
cross-posted from: lemmy.world/post/3804525
Wow, things have changed since I last posted in /c/fediverse. Here are the top five most active instances based on monthly active users:
- lemmy.world: 19516
- lemm.ee: 3779
- lemmy.ml: 2970
- sh.itjust.works: 2355
- feddit.de: 2293
Source: the-federation.info/platform/73
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I’m also impressed by feddit.de presence, Fediverse culture seems strong in Germany
Anyone from Germany care to comment on why this is? Y’all seem to have such a large presence on here compared to others
I’m from another nation-oriented instance that has an outsized presence, right next to Duitsland.
My guess is:
What is DACH?
It's the country codes for Germany, Austria, and Switzerland (Deutschland for the D, Confederation Helvetica for the CH). Those are the three countries with a majority of their people speaking German other than Liechtenstein, which is extremely small
It also means roof and is reminiscent of Dachsprache. One of those unreasonably neat acronyms.
And in particular it’s the vehicle registration codes, ISO 3166 for Austria is AT (hence also the TLD).
German-speaking countries in Europe. Deutschland (Germany), Austria and of course the Confœderatio Helvetica (Switzerland).
I think one reason is the large number of German users on the Internet. With around 100 million speakers, German is the second most spoken native language in the West after English.
According to the application texts, many users seem to come from various podcasts. We are also “endorsed” by one of the largest German-language subreddits on its front page (r/ich_iel). Our users have also started to watermark their memes, which occasionally attracts new users. Feddit also made it into an article in a popular IT magazine (heise).
Wait, isn’t French second with 210k?~~ en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Languages_of_Europe#List_of… ~~
Sorry, misread, you are correct about native speakers!
Is Latin America not the western world? That would add another 200 million or so Spanish speakers.
Aren’t Spanish speakers on their own link agregator, www.meneame.net ?
No idea. But they said “German is the second most spoken native language in the West after English” whereas the wikipedia article is on Europe, so that would exclude Latin America if it’s part of the west. I believe if they are included, they absolutely dwarf the number of German speakers.
It seems that it’s not that clear en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Western_world#/media/File:W…
Ohhh that’s going to piss off Greek Nazis. The fascist Junta back in the days was all in on “we’re western we’re the source of everything western we are the west”, not to mention “Turks are filthy pigs we have nothing in common with them”, meanwhile, the music.
It’s a good question though why there are so few Spanish speakers here (or at least visible).
We have too much melanin to join the club.
Generally internet culture In the Dach region is very active and forward looking, and potentially ideologically aligned with the idea of Fediverse and generally FOSS software and privacy. E.g. for Wikipedia language share German got overtaken by Spanish only within the last 5 years slipping from 2nd to 3rd suggesting some early adopter and internet participation higher than the norm.
Subjectively a lot of people here have uneasiness with big tech, and are relatively informed about alternatives.DACH on Reddit was also very big, and very ideologically opposed to API changes and general Reddit corpo behaviour. Subjectively again Dach and ich_iel felt like home when I joined, essentially like the Reddit culture I was used to, just with a little more progressive views across the board.
Also I suspect that German language speakers are fairly active within the English speaking parts of the internet in general, while Spanish and French as well as other non Germanic languages seem to have more disdain for English language content and sites, Germans and Dutch as well as Nordics are very comfortable with English as a common language.
Thank you for your feedback!
I’ve been on sh.itjust.works since day one of my Lemmy existence, because shit just works.
It also doesn’t overdo it with defeds (beehaw) and isn’t run by tankies (lemmy.ml) or nazis (exploding-heads).
Who knew Lemmy was so big in Estonia?
I wonder how many of the accounts on world are ones that are just left for dead as people moved around to other instances. I myself was day one on world but the outages became too much.
Probably a lot. I expect LW to go down to something around 17k, maybe even a bit less
I was also on world but switched to lemm.ee when they defederated hexbear.
Made my first Lemmy account on Lemmy.world on the first weekend of June, but the outages of late June/early July pushed me (with some encouragement from others who’ve already made the jump earlier) to make a lemm.ee account. It was only supposed to be an alt, to be used when Lemmy.world is unusable, but the Meta fiasco then made me decide to make lemm.ee my main.
Wait, lemmy.ml is French ?
The .ml is the country extension for Mali, which was colonized (read that how you want) by France along with other regions of Africa. Just recently French troops left Mali after a nine year military operation to fight Islamic militants.
No, they are just hosted in the OVH data center in France.
I mean, aren’t the lemmy dev and lemmy.ml admins French?
No. One is from Austria and the other lives in Canada.
TIL!
Canadians are half french.
Curious about the blank stats for hexbear. Should this populate over several weeks or do they pull from OUR statistics and it just didnt take them yet?
There are here on this site: lemmy.fediverse.observer/list
we’ve got fewer active users but have an outsized post/comment count
Yeah, dunno how #10 accurately reflects our rank because we are far and away more active than many of these instances
This is by monthly active users, not by posts
So dont even have a month of federation yet
Well, you’ve got a 3 year head start as I understand it, no?
Hexbear is at 1.62k MAUs, good for 7th most on Lemmy (ignoring lemmynsfw.com because it’s presumably filled with alts).
But your 3.7 million comments absolutely dwarf every other server. Props on that, but it’s largely representative of past activity.
The-federation.info
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Where’s Radio Free Lemmy when you need them
I believe that your admins are blocking that information from being scraped. If that’s not the case, then it’s probably due to the fact that you guys run a unqiue fork of the Lemmy code.
But it’s certainly not about the timing, afaik.
Pretty impressive! Wonder where kbin instances fit in those stats.
Kbin is pretty nice, but sometimes it feels like it is… a bit too nice? Clean UI, better uptime, but also seems a little bit more closed. Makes me feel a little paranoid. Is there a corporation running it?
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Singular they goes back at least as far as Shakespeare. Also, "you" was originally a plural pronoun.
Cant “you” still be used to mean many people? “do you all” “you guys” etc…
Also, there’s a lot of Shakespeare speech that is kind of incomprehensible today.
I don’t think anyone is suggesting that we eliminate the plural “they”, either.
If Shakespeare’s English is too hard to comprehend today, then we can make it easier by switching one part back. It also proves that they’re ;-) not just trying to sound more important or whatever transphobic bs.
Yes, it can, but my point was that it used to only mean multiple people and we don't have any trouble using it to refer to just one
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They’re worth a whole lot more than you, anyway
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LoL… You wish
I wish you had better comebacks than that, anyway, because that was pathetic. And that you weren’t a transphobic shithead, but I try to be realistic.
Hog out or log out, nazi pig
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Yes. Now post a picture of your hog.
Total hexbear comments: 3,710,000
Hexbear comments with more than just one emoji/picture: 100,000
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I’m pretty sure that was a joke, lol
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Absolutely baited
I would’ve guessed 20x more.
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Hexbear comments that aren’t related to politics: 0
Who hurt you?
Hexbear comments which would fail freshman political science: yes
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Hexbear comments which can’t take a joke: one or more
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Average “I like to act stoopid to get gotcha moment” internet user
Hell yea, proud to fail the liberal far left cultural Marxist CRT bullshit that is being taught in university political science classes
I can’t tell how many layers of irony this is except that it is an odd number
Weren’t you ome of the people we asked a bunch of Marxism 101 questions to without any response?
No, I think it was the opposite. I’m the one who keeps insisting that socialist philosophy doesn’t stop in 1924, that the socialist international is not a Leninist organization, and that MLs who quote Chomsky in defense of autocratic politics are way more fucking dense than any lib.
Y’all are the ones who treat Lenin’s half baked, modernist screed like some cringeworthy dogma painted on your cave wall, while continuously demonstrating that you are mostly slacktivists, trolls and keyboard warriors who express no actual interest in political philosophy beyond your painfully outmoded geopolitical head canon, yet go around mocking others for not finding your stick drawings very convincing.
Okay, so you would be willing to explain some basic marxist ideas to the viewer then?
Great!
How do fixed capital, ttotroptf, and the primary mode of worker alienation under capital intersect?(As described by Marx and not successfully criticized up to the present day) This has multiple answers and one of them can be a one word answer.
That out of the way, on a personal note;
I work on two different grassroots campaigns because a nearby hospital is closing and the lead pipes are poisoning the community’s children. I am heading up internal reorganization to make my org safer, and am donating most of my salary from my bullshit job that lets me post and organize for most of the day to socialist orgs, while surviving as a multiracial trans woman in a rural area of a deep red state. I’m currently reading socialist and anarchist texts written in the last 5 years, on hiatus from reading a book about the soviet dual monetary system because it is machine translated from Russian and is a slog.
I have more respect for the least educated hexbear slacktivists than I do for anti-communist “socialists” like yourself.
Log the fuck off and start from the basics again, because you’ve obviously misunderstood them based on all the dogshit takes I’ve seen from you. All the anarcho syndies I know who actually do shit would not get along with your sorry ass.
Yeah buddy, I’m not your monkey. If you want to have an actual conversation about why, eg, autocracy doesn’t do jack shit to resolve exploitation via labor alienation and commodification, I’m here for it. Or if you want to go over why the complete lack of actionable framework for curating the political agency of the individual is, in fact, one of the most glaring and widely discussed holes in Marxist orthodoxy, I’d love to pull that string.
But if you are just going to be another smug sectarian who insists on making dishonest campist garbage the bottom of their moral well, then I guess we can keep taking pot shots at eachother. I just think the internet deserves a better class of socialist.
I’m sure you can definitely answer it, mhmm. Very believable.
This demonstrates a lack of basic knowledge of theory as well as data on how AES have developed their workplaces.
But who knows, might be wrong. What did you read that lead you to this conclusion?
Who is an orthodox marxist though? Also, youre going to have to define individual agency if you dont think AES states don’t cultivate it.
Literally in a left unity instance, you’re the one claiming the vast majority of socialists throughout the world are bad when you claim they’re all autocratic.
Yes, people who unironically support Leninism, Stalinism and Maoism are supporters of autocratic, and in many cases tyrannical politics. These are first principles for the vast majority of people who study politics, all over the world. It only feels strange because places like hexbear and lemmygrad have this extremely weird liturgy, where vaguely expressing any form of the idea that some forms of autocracy can be more evil than some forms of capitalism is the worst sin.
Really, the only thing which is confusing to me is why anyone who espouses egalitarian and queer friendly principles would associate with people who actively promote a global alliance of countries who would exterminate them. I don’t condone association with campists for the same reason I don’t condone association with Republicans.
Most socialists in the world are some type of ml or maoist. Yes, I bet they teach in capitalist schools all over the world that the enemies of capitalism are some kind of monsters. But people actually exposed to socialism in practice seem to think much differently. The CPC has a 95 percent approval rating according to international pollsters. But Im guessing you know better than 1.3 billion Chinese folks about their government.
Ah yes, the GDR and Cuba, well noted for their exterminationist policies.
Socialist countries have a better track record with trans issues than capitalist countries at similar levels of wealth. Socialist countries also don’t create far right death squads all over the world that just happen to also exterminate queer folks. There is a reason why so many maoists in the Philippines are queer.
I said autocrat. You said monster.
Okay? And?
where i live a family of people born among the poorest 10% would take an average of nine generations to reach the middle class. nine. even ignoring the generational part, that’s about 20 million people condemned, by birth, to a life of deep poverty, lacking even the most basic goods such as food and housing. and we’re officially considered a “middle income” country.
all, and i mean all AES states solved this problem either completely or nearly so by giving people decent jobs, education, health care and housing
so yea it’s impossible for me to not find you people absolutely ridiculous when you talk shit about said states just because they “arrested too many citizens” or didn’t allow enough fucking free speech. you can rip my fucking tongue off if it means i don’t have to see my people getting fucked on a daily basis
Imagine believing that there is no poverty in China or Russia.
the largest poverty alleviation campaign in modern history is too small for you to consider good?
we’re talking about AES, not capitalist states.
The biggest tell of someone who doesnt know anything about Marxism is someone who talks about “Stalinism” as if it’s a thing, as if Stalin himself wasn’t pretty much just a Leninist.
sounds like you are transforming into a corn cob
Just couldnt help it, huh?
I passed my polisci class
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Imagine thinking pop culture, technology, and news, 95% of what gets discussed in any Lemmy instance, aren’t related to politics.
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Chapos are efficient. Why post a paragraph when one big emoji works?
An emoji is worth a thousand words.
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Rhebus posting is what the youth do now. Get with the times gramps
holy fuckin sheeeit lmfaooo
Lemmy.ml doesn’t take new registrations… Unless that changed
Seems like it did change
Lemmy.world is hosted in the USA? I wonder how long til it gets raided by the feds
It’s not, it’s in Europe
Le Feds then
I think that is an artifact of their Cloudflare use. The main server is AFAIK in a Hetzner data center in Helsinki, Finland.
So its just proxied by the feds
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Why would it be raided by the feds?
Why wouldn’t it?
? I don’t see why reason why it would? Do you want to actually explain your reasoning?
Of course it’s the one instance where I accidentally capitalized my username and can’t change it to a lower case letter.
Grats lemm.ee! Just gotta pump those numbers up and pass lemmy.world now
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All credit goes to @HornyOnMain@hexbear.net!
hexbear.net/comment/3724948
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