Pixelfed introduces Loops, a Short-Form Video App (wedistribute.org)
from deadsuperhero@lemmy.ml to fediverse@lemmy.ml on 16 Mar 2024 11:30
https://lemmy.ml/post/13238074

The Fediverse might be getting their own mashups of Tiktok, YouTube, and Vine sooner than anyone thought, thanks to the work of one prolific dev spearheading an effort. The best part? He’s helping other projects in the space, too.

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sabreW4K3@lemmy.tf on 16 Mar 2024 11:36 next collapse

Oh this is fantastic. It’s definitely something that’s been missing and been a conundrum in regards to figuring out how to sort it. Glad to see the PixelFed developer figured out how to do it.

poVoq@slrpnk.net on 16 Mar 2024 11:38 next collapse

Hmm, unless the plan is to have a lot of reposts from TikTok, the real difficulty of these platforms is to have super easy to use video editing tools in the mobile app. And that is really a project all on it’s own and requires a entirely different skillset.

deadsuperhero@lemmy.ml on 16 Mar 2024 11:46 collapse

You know, that’s actually a really good point. Dansup tends to iterate on certain parts of his apps several times over, like how Pixelfed handles image uploads and filters prior to posting. It might be that just going with the simplest possible thing makes sense for right now, until a better approach can be devised.

Simon@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 16 Mar 2024 11:52 next collapse

Vine 3.0 let’s try this again

GlitterInfection@lemmy.world on 16 Mar 2024 16:53 collapse

This time it’s personal!

GBU_28@lemm.ee on 16 Mar 2024 23:37 collapse

Wait, we want anonymous

GlitterInfection@lemmy.world on 16 Mar 2024 23:37 collapse

Electric boogloo?

GBU_28@lemm.ee on 16 Mar 2024 23:39 collapse

Never met her

Cwilliams@beehaw.org on 16 Mar 2024 12:10 next collapse

Eww!!! TikTok is so nasty!!!

ziixe@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 16 Mar 2024 13:49 collapse

Isn’t this the point of this thing? To not have to use tik tok?

Cwilliams@beehaw.org on 16 Mar 2024 15:21 collapse

Exactly

nutomic@lemmy.ml on 16 Mar 2024 12:13 next collapse

Available Soon.

Dansup is well known for making grand announcements and delivering on them very late or never. I think it was more than two years ago that he announced federated groups for Pixelfed and still nothing. So I wouldn’t get my hopes up yet.

deadsuperhero@lemmy.ml on 16 Mar 2024 12:22 next collapse

He is a bit bombastic, and has a habit of biting off more than he can chew sometimes. I think these side-projects are ultimately useful, though, and probably help fend off boredom or burnout. Maybe he gets better at coding and design through doing that, I dunno.

Regardless, he’s continues to do a lot of great development work.

ajsadauskas@aus.social on 16 Mar 2024 12:27 next collapse

@deadsuperhero @nutomic I think the concept of a TikTok on the Fediverse is solid. And if short form videos help to get more people on the Fedi, and engaging with the Fedi, that's a good thing in my book.

Mac@mander.xyz on 16 Mar 2024 13:38 collapse

i still disagree that we should get as many people as possible on the Fediverse.
That’s a good way for this place to become a hateful shit hole like so many other places on the internet.

PopOfAfrica@lemmy.world on 16 Mar 2024 14:46 next collapse

I think the volume of people ia what killed Mastodon. That place is toxic.

can@sh.itjust.works on 16 Mar 2024 20:31 next collapse

How so? I’m not on it but couldn’t you try another instance?

yessikg@lemmy.blahaj.zone on 16 Mar 2024 20:59 collapse

Switch servers, I have had nothing but good interactions

can@sh.itjust.works on 16 Mar 2024 15:16 collapse

Aren’t we still pretty far from being anywhere near that big?

frogmint@beehaw.org on 22 Mar 2024 19:04 collapse

Sup messenger too, but it’s on hold due to EU regulatory challenges

And I agree, Dan is a great asset to fediverse development

PopOfAfrica@lemmy.world on 16 Mar 2024 14:45 next collapse

I wanted to use his mlencryoted messenger :(

priapus@sh.itjust.works on 18 Mar 2024 15:24 collapse

He’s still working on his messengers. It’s been delayed because of new EU regulations surrounding messaging clients.

Cwilliams@beehaw.org on 16 Mar 2024 15:20 next collapse

Little baby Elon…

sibachian@lemmy.ml on 16 Mar 2024 22:17 collapse

i think he stopped working on groups because mastodon officially announced groups shortly after gis preview. not that they have delivered it yet (release target, q4 2023 - an no word for 2 years now).

deadsuperhero@lemmy.ml on 16 Mar 2024 22:41 collapse

He’s periodically shown updates on it. From talking to him, there are a number of challenges:

  • Being blocked by other features, like a UI refactor
  • Compatibility with other existing implementations (less of a problem now with the Group Federation FEP by @nutomic@lemmy.ml)
  • Wanting to include Private Groups
  • Bringing in moderation, assignment, and delegation tools for groups.
  • Dealing with unrelated issues pertaining to the day-to-day maintenance
  • Needing to break out new experiments in a branch to see how well an idea actually works

I think the biggest thing is that he probably does spread himself pretty thin at times, and is still learning how to rely on community pull requests and contributions. It can be a really hard thing to do, especially if you feel the need to provide the creative direction for how things ought to work.

helenslunch@feddit.nl on 16 Mar 2024 13:28 next collapse

I really hope they find a way to keep this on “Loops” and not poison the Fedi with vertical videos.

thegiddystitcher@lemm.ee on 17 Mar 2024 08:59 collapse

That’s my main concern. Seeing content from other platforms in my Mastodon feed is pretty great right now (Lemmy, PeerTube etc). But hashtag feeds could quickly get overrun by something like this if it works the same way.

That said, making this its own thing instead of building a “reels” for Pixelfed suggests the dev already knows separation will be important, so 🤞

Constantine@sh.itjust.works on 16 Mar 2024 14:53 next collapse

Maybe it should’ve been integrated as a part of pixelfed like how reels are on instagram ? Because it can benifit on the aldready existing userbase and would be much less work all the servers have to inrease the file size allotment tho. Maybe that’s not those userbase want idk never been there

deadsuperhero@lemmy.ml on 16 Mar 2024 20:59 collapse

So, one interesting aspect here is that you can log into it with your existing Mastodon or Pixelfed account. Loops and Sup both seem to be building on the idea that you can use existing Fediverse accounts to log in, meaning you don’t necessarily need to create a new account and navigate a new platform all over again.

Constantine@sh.itjust.works on 17 Mar 2024 03:33 collapse

Hmm yeah i noticed lemmy is lacking on that idea.

Thorny_Insight@lemm.ee on 16 Mar 2024 14:53 next collapse

Can’t wait to never try it.

ObsidianZed@lemmy.world on 16 Mar 2024 15:18 next collapse

Well now’s the time if TikTok gets banned.

PlexSheep@feddit.de on 16 Mar 2024 15:43 collapse

Perhaps it will be the third great migration?

[deleted] on 16 Mar 2024 17:04 next collapse

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guts@lemmy.ml on 16 Mar 2024 17:46 next collapse

Normies love short videos and I think this is a good alternative.

fannymcslap@lemmy.ml on 16 Mar 2024 17:56 next collapse

Oh for fucks sake

entropicshart@sh.itjust.works on 16 Mar 2024 18:24 next collapse

Does this mean they finally fixed the issue of uploading video content from mobile?

VeganCheesecake@lemmy.blahaj.zone on 16 Mar 2024 23:03 next collapse

Hmh, not my cup of tea, but more variety is good, I think. Though hosting a popular instance might get pretty expensive.

Delusion6903@discuss.online on 17 Mar 2024 01:43 next collapse

They are going to need an algorithm if they want to keep people. The whole fediverse needs it for that matter. It makes for less work for the user base. User chosen or created is fine, but they need it.

leanleft@lemmy.ml on 19 Mar 2024 09:33 next collapse

how much would it cost to provide this endless stream of media? im guessing it would be very costly.

mozz@mbin.grits.dev on 16 Mar 2024 11:57 collapse

You were supposed to bring balance to the Fediverse, not destroy it