like a global map with filters by business sector, flight reason, etc
man this would be sick hehe
PorcupineSlippers@lemmy.ml
on 19 Apr 01:16
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Air traffic information is already publicly available. The author of the bot simply scrapes data for Elon’s Jet. You can use websites like FlightAware, Flightradar24, and PlaneLogger that provide real-time tracking of flights, including private jets. You can also search for specific aircraft or view flights in a particular area. I remember shortly after Elon bought Twitter he got the account suspended.
and worth noting that by “publicly available” here, it’s not like it’s published on some FAA API: ADS-B is broadcast from all aircraft, and anyone can receive its data… these services run by networks for regular members of the public contributing the data from their ADS-B receivers
skulblaka@sh.itjust.works
on 19 Apr 19:15
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So you’re telling me it’s only a matter of time before Skum orders his pilots to go dark and cease broadcasting, and then they’re going to hit a jet liner full of families trying to escape his corporate hell.
24_at_the_withers@lemmy.world
on 19 Apr 13:42
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Except the commercial aggregators have all started filtering the data of specific planes on request - you won’t find Elon’s or Swift’s ADSB data on popular sites/apps like FlightAware or Flightradar24. (I’m not familiar with PlaneLogger). Open source aggregators like OpenSky or ADSB Exchange will have them though, but the UIs of those sites are far less polished and have fewer features.
To be honest I can’t think of non evil people that ride private jets. If somebody wanted to do violence against billionaires they could probably take down any corporate sized jet.
Remember_the_tooth@lemmy.world
on 20 Apr 12:34
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Okay, I’m aware of the irony of what I’m about to say, but please hear me out before getting out the torches and pitchforks. I couldn’t think of an ethical use for private jets, so I asked ChatGPT (Yes, the coal-powered theft engine). It gave the following (unedited):
That’s a great and nuanced question. While private jets are often criticized — and rightly so — for their environmental impact and association with luxury excess, there are some contexts where their use can be argued to be ethically justifiable, especially when alternatives are limited or time-sensitive. Here are a few examples:
1. Medical Emergencies & Humanitarian Aid
Air ambulances are essentially private jets equipped for rapid medical response. They save lives in time-critical emergencies, transporting organs for transplant or patients who can’t fly commercially.
In disaster zones, private aviation can be used to bring in aid, doctors, or evacuate people when commercial options are unavailable or too slow.
2. Remote Access for Critical Work
Some humanitarian workers, scientists, or engineers travel to remote areas with no viable commercial flights. In such cases, private aircraft may be the only way to access those locations efficiently and safely.
This applies to environmental researchers, doctors serving indigenous communities, or people inspecting infrastructure in inaccessible regions.
3. Time-Critical Leadership Roles
In rare cases, heads of state, negotiators, or executives overseeing urgent crisis response may use private jets if the time saved could mean large-scale impact (e.g., preventing war escalation, saving a company that employs thousands).
4. Cargo Over Passenger Transport
Private aircraft aren’t always carrying people — they can also be used for urgent supply deliveries, such as vaccines, scientific samples, or critical parts needed to fix failing infrastructure.
Important Caveat
Even in these ethically defensible uses, there’s room for scrutiny. The key ethical tension lies in necessity vs. convenience — is the jet being used because there’s truly no better option, or just to avoid discomfort?
If you’re thinking of a specific situation, I can help analyze whether it might be ethically justifiable too.
I hate to admit it, but I think it’s correct. The existence of private jets isn’t the problem, they’re just overabundant because they’re not taxed adequately. Having said that, I believe you’re right in that, if a small passenger jet were to crash, it’s more likely to make the world a better place than a worse place.
circuitfarmer@lemmy.sdf.org
on 19 Apr 00:23
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The FAA is changing the rule which makes this information public. The FAA is fully controlled by the rich.
ADS-B is public broadcast though… if you’re in range of the plane, you can pick up its air traffic control data (elevation, speed, heading, registration, etc)… services like flight radar 24 don’t work on FAA data: they are a huge network of regular people across the globe with ADS-B receivers contributing everything they see
schnurrito@discuss.tchncs.de
on 19 Apr 09:55
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They are no longer making the information public which aircraft belongs to whom, so in the future you might no longer know that any given aircraft belongs to Elon Musk or any other celebrity. You can still track it, but you won’t know what aircraft to track.
I thought they just slightly obfuscated it, but bc the importance of tail numbers for safety, they can’t do so completely. I’d love a complete explanation from someone knowledgeable.
Oh, so you look at the amount of wealth in USA and the low taxation rate of 6,5% and think they are there because you people are special? It’s because your government chooses to gather as much capital and tax only a small part. Which causes tax revenue to still be beneficial for USA.
Are you going to throw in another ad hominem? Or are you gonna actually say something
Well I’d prefer if you could think about the stuff I actually said, but if you wanna just yell at eachother. That’s fine too. Honestly it’s your choice, I give you both options. I always do
Scott_of_the_Arctic@lemmy.world
on 19 Apr 18:49
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I’m no Marxist. I’m also not American. But I’m pretty sure it’s more about the erosion of human rights and the rise of an autocratic regime. Shit looks pretty bleak for Americans. To get an idea of what’s coming next Elon musk and Donald trump want to follow the insanity of Curtis yarvin. JD Vance and Peter Thiel want to follow project 2025. Neither end well.
Half the country voted for this a 2nd time. They likely have to talk with the 100 million people that are pro trump.
Scott_of_the_Arctic@lemmy.world
on 19 Apr 18:42
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The left have been warning about exactly what’s happening for years. Practically screaming it into traffic. Noone has listened, noone has taken us seriously, noone has thought to actually stand up to the oligarchs.
After a while you have to stop treating them like children who don’t know better and come to the realisation that they want the cruelty and oppression. They just don’t want it to happen to them.
Once the extrajudicial deportations start, anyone still onboard with it is by definition hostile and an active supporter of fascism. These people can’t be reasoned with.
SabinStargem@lemmy.today
on 19 Apr 17:39
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Yeah. There was a time I merely thought the other side was misguided, but would see reason if we talk. That isn’t how it works. Bullies only recognize power, and one should know when to speak their language.
Scott_of_the_Arctic@lemmy.world
on 19 Apr 18:31
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I’m pretty sure the rise of fascism has a tendency to get the left riled up. So technically you are correct.
Scott_of_the_Arctic@lemmy.world
on 19 Apr 18:44
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As a European, it actually saddens me that America has gone this way.
I’m Canadian, so with pleasure I will fuck up America. And if the Europeans or Chinese people want to come over too, well, I think Canada will be the graveyard of empires.
I mean what about them? They’re facilitating his crime spree against the public.
DrunkEngineer@lemmy.world
on 20 Apr 00:41
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“My friend is trying to convince me that any contractors working on the uncompleted Death Star were innocent victims when the space station was destroyed.”
Sterile_Technique@lemmy.world
on 19 Apr 19:52
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adding so it’s archived in as many places as possible:
the reg is N628TS, and you can track it with any ADS-B service
ADS-B is broadcast from the plane, and able to be picked up by any in-range receiver… services like flight radar 24 aggregate many receivers across the world run by ordinary people
schnurrito@discuss.tchncs.de
on 19 Apr 09:56
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Yes; I thought there had been enough news stories about this that this was common knowledge?
Nah, he just purchased the world’s biggest megaphone from which he could propel his ketamine fuelled opinions into the deep uncaring void of the internet.
rustbuckett@lemmings.world
on 19 Apr 11:57
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I remember him getting really mad about his plane being tracked. Didn’t know it was on Twitter.
i wonder what would happen if someone was to point a laser at coincidently same direction as where the plane is
Scott_of_the_Arctic@lemmy.world
on 20 Apr 01:01
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Fuck all most likely. You’d have to have an extremely steady hand and do it as the plane was landing. But the pupil of a pilots eyeball is an extremely small target.
You mean the guy who called the cave diver a pedo before all this?
And who brought “freedom” to twitter?
And now he’s running enforcement on trumps plan to turn the us into a dictatorship.
I don’t wish death on him (I don’t think he deserves that) but my not liking him happened before the Nazi solute.
Even if you took the Nazi solute out, it’s fairly clear he’s not a good person and that Tesla is possibly just a way for him to get rich and get attention these days. He might have cared originally, but I feel any illusion of caring is gone, and he is basically Trump 2.
He’d happily remove all workers rights if he was in power, and to get back at his ex wives, possibly eliminate women’s rights
Microplasticbrain@lemm.ee
on 19 Apr 23:54
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Hahahaha MISCONSTRUED fuck off you nazi apologist bastard. Why don’t you tolerate my foot in your ass
Goodmorningsunshine@lemmy.world
on 20 Apr 00:11
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“all because”? Let’s not forget about him destroying the country and robbing all our futures blind. Stop typing and just find the man so you can suck whatever’s left of his dick in person, Nazi
Given the breadth and depth of evidence of him being a horrible person and holding favorable views towards fascism/nazism (see him flirting with every far-right movement), calling it misconstrued is misrepresenting reality. He knows what he did.
Unlike other commenters, I don’t think you’re necessarily a Nazi, but you are at least missing crucial information to make a proper judgment here. And, not to group you with them, but when you defend his Nazi salute, you’re not in good company.
That vern unsworth debacle from 2017 was pretty fun to read lol
Vern tells Elon to shove his submarine up his behind and then Elon calls him a pedo boy. A tit for tat moment, in which the defamation lawsuit was dismissed.
His daughter is saying one thing and Elon is saying another, so all we have is word of mouth. Naturally, people will believe the daughter because of their disdain for Elon, however, how can one be tricked into consenting to that procedure? Elon takes the L here.
Elon telling Germany to embrace their past and learn from it? Especially at the 80th anniversary of Auschwitz? Not a good look.
Elon had said that the awkward gesture he made was not a Nazi salute, that his heart goes out to everyone.
So… Everyone is running with the Nazi salute. Do we give him the benefit of the doubt and believe it was his intended gesture? Or do we perceive it as a Nazi salute and condemn him?
Everyone has chosen the latter. I can see why people can see that with 2 out of the three articles you’ve provided.
But there is a lot of irony in these posts that seem to want to fight fascism with fascism.
For example, people are calling Trump’s deportation measures fascist, and in the same breath, wanting to deport Trump supporters instead.
People calling it fascist for their anti Trump (or fascist) speech to be limited, but deeming Trump supporters having no right to talk.
But in all seriousness, I just find it all entertaining. The back and forth and the ironic rhetoric of backyard politicians.
Before you ask me for a source, just peruse Reddit or this platform.
I do appreciate your rebuttal and providing sources rather than snide comments.
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@elonjet@mastodon.social for those who wish to subscribe.
Now do it for the other Billionairs.
The creator also made one for Taylor Swift and a few others
Tim Cook, Larry Ellison, a plane owned by Google, and a few megachurch guys among others, if I recall correctly
like a global map with filters by business sector, flight reason, etc
man this would be sick hehe
Air traffic information is already publicly available. The author of the bot simply scrapes data for Elon’s Jet. You can use websites like FlightAware, Flightradar24, and PlaneLogger that provide real-time tracking of flights, including private jets. You can also search for specific aircraft or view flights in a particular area. I remember shortly after Elon bought Twitter he got the account suspended.
and worth noting that by “publicly available” here, it’s not like it’s published on some FAA API: ADS-B is broadcast from all aircraft, and anyone can receive its data… these services run by networks for regular members of the public contributing the data from their ADS-B receivers
So you’re telling me it’s only a matter of time before Skum orders his pilots to go dark and cease broadcasting, and then they’re going to hit a jet liner full of families trying to escape his corporate hell.
Except the commercial aggregators have all started filtering the data of specific planes on request - you won’t find Elon’s or Swift’s ADSB data on popular sites/apps like FlightAware or Flightradar24. (I’m not familiar with PlaneLogger). Open source aggregators like OpenSky or ADSB Exchange will have them though, but the UIs of those sites are far less polished and have fewer features.
I just follow exposés by his baby momma’s, it’s not as up-to-date but it’s good enough for me
Hell yeah, the fediverse rocks!
The best part is that if any of them get taken down, another one will pop up on another instance :D
Don’t worry. They’re working in it:
pcmag.com/…/good-news-for-billionaires-faa-to-let…
Some hero needs to be at the right airport before they manage it
Yes, those airports need throngs of people to defend those billionaires before they can slither away to safety. So many protectors.
To be honest I can’t think of non evil people that ride private jets. If somebody wanted to do violence against billionaires they could probably take down any corporate sized jet.
Okay, I’m aware of the irony of what I’m about to say, but please hear me out before getting out the torches and pitchforks. I couldn’t think of an ethical use for private jets, so I asked ChatGPT (Yes, the coal-powered theft engine). It gave the following (unedited):
Even in these ethically defensible uses, there’s room for scrutiny. The key ethical tension lies in necessity vs. convenience — is the jet being used because there’s truly no better option, or just to avoid discomfort?
I hate to admit it, but I think it’s correct. The existence of private jets isn’t the problem, they’re just overabundant because they’re not taxed adequately. Having said that, I believe you’re right in that, if a small passenger jet were to crash, it’s more likely to make the world a better place than a worse place.
The FAA is changing the rule which makes this information public. The FAA is fully controlled by the rich.
ADS-B is public broadcast though… if you’re in range of the plane, you can pick up its air traffic control data (elevation, speed, heading, registration, etc)… services like flight radar 24 don’t work on FAA data: they are a huge network of regular people across the globe with ADS-B receivers contributing everything they see
I think the above user was referring to this: faa.gov/…/faa-moves-protect-aircraft-owners-priva…
They are no longer making the information public which aircraft belongs to whom, so in the future you might no longer know that any given aircraft belongs to Elon Musk or any other celebrity. You can still track it, but you won’t know what aircraft to track.
ahhh right! i see! yup that’d ruin everything 😭 you’d have to make some correlations to find the registration then
Just sit next to the airport with a telescope on days you know he will be there. He would have to change IDs every flight to avoid this.
Sure… Until he takes his private jet out of the United States of America and has to register the information with a non USA equivalent of the FAA
Yes, exactly this ^
While I can appreciate the ADS-B bit, it seems clear that the change to public registration would still negatively affect tracking.
The rules will really change when the first billionaire on a private jet gets taken out by a DIY suicide drone.
I thought they just slightly obfuscated it, but bc the importance of tail numbers for safety, they can’t do so completely. I’d love a complete explanation from someone knowledgeable.
Just months until they apply the Steve Jobs rule to tail numbers.
Lease a new private jet every 3 months and you don’t need plates, or tail numbers.
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Like Puttie his master
They literally made his private security US Marshalls
I don’t think I’m seeing the value here. Why would you want to track him?
Luigi.
In unrelated news, the graphics for the Switch 2 are fucking incredible - look at this shit! This is wild!
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yes a radar tracking guided missile. lock on to musks jet with AA-missile.
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If you choose to work for a Nazi billionaire you get what you get. I can’t imagine all the things they’ve seen and heard.
Do you think you’re a good person? 👀
No.
Good
Buddy, if a revolution is coming, there’s going to be more than a few hurt fee fees to make it work.
Have at it, fuck your country up. Europe and China will love to exploit a weakened America
trump wants a civil war, and I’m afraid he will get it.
I’m convinced the same people radicalising the right are radicalising the left.
Then stop it. Learn to communicate with eachother before it’s too late. Make amends. Stop this bullshit.
Hell no. You want us to surrender to evil people.
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Ah, you’re a bunch of idiots that don’t know how good you have it.
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Pretty sure it’s not about money.
Aight, give the money to us then
Come on, Marxists, you’re taking it from the proletariat in the world. Redistribute the wealth to us. You’ll do that, right?
You’re a fucking moron
So you’re not giving us all the capital that fled to your country because of low taxation?
But I thought you wanted to tax them? Oh but, they can’t leave when you tax them, right?
Yep, definitely a moron
Oh, so you look at the amount of wealth in USA and the low taxation rate of 6,5% and think they are there because you people are special? It’s because your government chooses to gather as much capital and tax only a small part. Which causes tax revenue to still be beneficial for USA.
Are you going to throw in another ad hominem? Or are you gonna actually say something
You: yelling into oblivion about some nonsense point that has nothing to do with the topic of the thread.
Me: understanding that you’re a moron who is not worth arguing with.
Understand, I’m not trying to argue with you, that would be a waste of time. I’m just letting you know that you’re a moron.
Just fuck up your country, doesn’t matter to me. Already made good money on trump crashing the market
Seems like it matters a lot to you since you keep replying with more nonsense (moronic) comments
Well I’d prefer if you could think about the stuff I actually said, but if you wanna just yell at eachother. That’s fine too. Honestly it’s your choice, I give you both options. I always do
I’m no Marxist. I’m also not American. But I’m pretty sure it’s more about the erosion of human rights and the rise of an autocratic regime. Shit looks pretty bleak for Americans. To get an idea of what’s coming next Elon musk and Donald trump want to follow the insanity of Curtis yarvin. JD Vance and Peter Thiel want to follow project 2025. Neither end well.
Half the country voted for this a 2nd time. They likely have to talk with the 100 million people that are pro trump.
The left have been warning about exactly what’s happening for years. Practically screaming it into traffic. Noone has listened, noone has taken us seriously, noone has thought to actually stand up to the oligarchs.
After a while you have to stop treating them like children who don’t know better and come to the realisation that they want the cruelty and oppression. They just don’t want it to happen to them.
Once the extrajudicial deportations start, anyone still onboard with it is by definition hostile and an active supporter of fascism. These people can’t be reasoned with.
Yeah. There was a time I merely thought the other side was misguided, but would see reason if we talk. That isn’t how it works. Bullies only recognize power, and one should know when to speak their language.
I’m pretty sure the rise of fascism has a tendency to get the left riled up. So technically you are correct.
As a European, it actually saddens me that America has gone this way.
Nah, fuck em
I’m Canadian, so with pleasure I will fuck up America. And if the Europeans or Chinese people want to come over too, well, I think Canada will be the graveyard of empires.
Why are you talking about a revolution in someone else’s country
You’re aware that the vast majority of revolutions are a disaster for people?
That’s their own decision to make
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Jesus Tapdancing Christ.
Breaking News: ByteMe on Lemmy leaks that the world’s richest man is using hostages and slave labor to fly him around on his private jet.
While previously assumed that the personnel are freely employed, it has been inferred that this is not the case.
We can only be left to send our thoughts and prayers to those family members left behind.
As to the identity of this brave whistleblower, we may never know.
For their family’s sake, hopefully the pilots were smart enough to include hazard pay in their contracts
Every successful flight with him on board is a missed opportunity for those pilots to do the world a favor. They’ve made their choice.
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I mean what about them? They’re facilitating his crime spree against the public.
“My friend is trying to convince me that any contractors working on the uncompleted Death Star were innocent victims when the space station was destroyed.”
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NGL I would love to see Nintendo give Luigi Mario a rocket launcher.
haha yeah
Theoretically mastodon can show up on Lemmy. Soooooo . . .
adding so it’s archived in as many places as possible:
the reg is N628TS, and you can track it with any ADS-B service
ADS-B is broadcast from the plane, and able to be picked up by any in-range receiver… services like flight radar 24 aggregate many receivers across the world run by ordinary people
Yes; I thought there had been enough news stories about this that this was common knowledge?
Wasn’t it part of why he acquired Twitter to shut down the account? The account later moved to Mastodon.
Nah, he just purchased the world’s biggest megaphone from which he could propel his ketamine fuelled opinions into the deep uncaring void of the internet.
I remember him getting really mad about his plane being tracked. Didn’t know it was on Twitter.
It was. Think he banned the account for “doxxing”
how to link planes to billionaires in europe? any ideas?
The only reason I give the slightest slightly green toilet-bowl-staining shit about this is because it upsets him and he deserves to be upset
Why would I want to track his jet though?
Because it pisses him off
Probably in the hopes of seeing it blip out of existence somewhere over the Atlantic.
gives him anxiety, the same shit he causes on millions world wide by funding extreme right wing movements
Ok, but does anyone here own a MANPADS?
Came here to ask the same question, any SAM would do really :)
i wonder what would happen if someone was to point a laser at coincidently same direction as where the plane is
Fuck all most likely. You’d have to have an extremely steady hand and do it as the plane was landing. But the pupil of a pilots eyeball is an extremely small target.
Oh, i thought it would do something more. At least I have had an assumption it would mess with some sensor or cause somekind of alarm
Ukraine is working on anti air drones…
But can you shoot it down?
hmmm new game idea
You won’t need to if he keeps cutting the FAA and other agencies
Just trick him into saying Crude oil is bad
Yes, just not through mastodon.
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Sorry that 4 Chan went down but you can still fuck right off from here.
Maybe Kiwi Farms is accepting new Edge Lords.
You mean the guy who called the cave diver a pedo before all this?
And who brought “freedom” to twitter?
And now he’s running enforcement on trumps plan to turn the us into a dictatorship.
I don’t wish death on him (I don’t think he deserves that) but my not liking him happened before the Nazi solute.
Even if you took the Nazi solute out, it’s fairly clear he’s not a good person and that Tesla is possibly just a way for him to get rich and get attention these days. He might have cared originally, but I feel any illusion of caring is gone, and he is basically Trump 2.
He’d happily remove all workers rights if he was in power, and to get back at his ex wives, possibly eliminate women’s rights
Hahahaha MISCONSTRUED fuck off you nazi apologist bastard. Why don’t you tolerate my foot in your ass
“all because”? Let’s not forget about him destroying the country and robbing all our futures blind. Stop typing and just find the man so you can suck whatever’s left of his dick in person, Nazi
Given the breadth and depth of evidence of him being a horrible person and holding favorable views towards fascism/nazism (see him flirting with every far-right movement), calling it misconstrued is misrepresenting reality. He knows what he did.
Unlike other commenters, I don’t think you’re necessarily a Nazi, but you are at least missing crucial information to make a proper judgment here. And, not to group you with them, but when you defend his Nazi salute, you’re not in good company.
I hope you’ll reconsider your stance.
That vern unsworth debacle from 2017 was pretty fun to read lol
Vern tells Elon to shove his submarine up his behind and then Elon calls him a pedo boy. A tit for tat moment, in which the defamation lawsuit was dismissed.
His daughter is saying one thing and Elon is saying another, so all we have is word of mouth. Naturally, people will believe the daughter because of their disdain for Elon, however, how can one be tricked into consenting to that procedure? Elon takes the L here.
Elon telling Germany to embrace their past and learn from it? Especially at the 80th anniversary of Auschwitz? Not a good look.
Elon had said that the awkward gesture he made was not a Nazi salute, that his heart goes out to everyone.
So… Everyone is running with the Nazi salute. Do we give him the benefit of the doubt and believe it was his intended gesture? Or do we perceive it as a Nazi salute and condemn him?
Everyone has chosen the latter. I can see why people can see that with 2 out of the three articles you’ve provided.
But there is a lot of irony in these posts that seem to want to fight fascism with fascism.
For example, people are calling Trump’s deportation measures fascist, and in the same breath, wanting to deport Trump supporters instead.
People calling it fascist for their anti Trump (or fascist) speech to be limited, but deeming Trump supporters having no right to talk.
But in all seriousness, I just find it all entertaining. The back and forth and the ironic rhetoric of backyard politicians.
Before you ask me for a source, just peruse Reddit or this platform.
I do appreciate your rebuttal and providing sources rather than snide comments.
His Hitler salute is probably the least damaging thing he’s done ever since he became president.
You can’t tolerate the intolerant
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I’m not wishing death upon Elon! I love him! Boy is so flammable!
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Player 2!
Wow, imagine being so out of touch you defend a billionaire
Where’s the defending?
i figured that some did it when elon banned that account on twitter i never got around to looking for it
In b4 he now tries to come down on Mastodon
Everyone should track him and post to Tiktok just for s*s n giggles
You can swear on the internet.
Just say shit. You are on the internet. You can say shit, piss, fuck, asshole, and even „Du kleiner hurensohn ich ficke deine mutter”.
I wanna bet all the CO2 emissions he emits are as much as if he’d sell gasoline cars instead.