Suggestions for people on Fosstodon considering moving (infosec.exchange)
from thenexusofprivacy@lemmy.blahaj.zone to fediverse@lemmy.world on 27 Apr 02:25
https://lemmy.blahaj.zone/post/25142643

cross-posted from: lemmy.blahaj.zone/post/25142642

And if you’re not sure why so many people on Fosstodon are considering moving, there are some links in the reply.

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mosiacmango@lemm.ee on 27 Apr 03:55 next collapse

The link above requires going to a sublink that is long but also very vague to find out the core issue. That link has basically no call outs for a callout post, just byzantine commentary about fosstodons overall code of conduct.

Which fosstodon mod engaged in what racist/anti-lqbt behavior? Where is the admins reply when they were notified about the above behavior?

EDIT: found this post of the mods issues. The feckless Admin response is here.

PhilipTheBucket@ponder.cat on 27 Apr 04:29 collapse

Yeah. The instant I read “racist, anti-immigrant and anti-LGBTQ+ views in a position of power” I strongly suspected that this is some bullshit.

IDK man. I’ve heard bad things about carrotcypher before, I have not looked into them one way or another. It’s sort of dicey both ways: I’m paranoid enough to be wary of a moderator who seems right-wing or pro-corporate who seems to be abusing their position, and also paranoid enough to be wary of a sudden hue and cry that a particular moderator needs to be removed because they are “problematic” in poorly-specified ways.

Just taking a cursory look at it: Mike’s defense of carrotcypher seems pretty credible. He looked at all carrotcypher’s past moderation actions and decided that it all looked fine and explained why with details. The criticism seemed a little unhinged. The one link that I saw at a quick glance was a link to a single one-line reddit comment, saying that it called CNN propaganda when it didn’t, and saying he favored deporting Mahmoud Khalil when he didn’t.

Then there was a bunch of stuff like:

this is a wildly disgusting person that you welcome into your space. i know that as a trans woman i cannot trust any fosstodon user while knowing what kind of person you happily let on your staff, whether theyre acting on those beliefs or not. it’s not safe for our mostly queer userbase to talk to your fascist-harboring userbase.

It would have been much easier to just link to some of the messed-up things, instead of asserting them and getting all upset and using the “I’m queer so don’t you DARE argue with me or you will be a ‘problematic’ person too” card.

IDK, I’m not decided on carrotcypher specifically and he might be a big POS and I just haven’t seen it yet. I have seen arguments that he removed particular reddit posts that there was no legitimate reason to remove. I just wish there was more light and less heat about why exactly he is a problem. Basing it on “this is stuff he removed that he shouldn’t have, look, links” is way better, in my opinion, than just being loudly upset about it.

mosiacmango@lemm.ee on 27 Apr 05:12 collapse

I think you misread my post. Im not defending fosstodon or carrotcypher, I was asking for more clarity about the issues.

Reading up on him in the linked posts, he looks like a big piece of shit that shouldn’t be moderating a large mastodon instance. It’s clear he abuses his power there and on the 50 communities here on lemmy he mods to silence discussion that doesn’t align with his views.

You opting to “not look into them” is the same stance as the Fosstodon admins, and honestly, not a good choice.

PhilipTheBucket@ponder.cat on 27 Apr 05:15 collapse

on the 50 communities here on lemmy he mods to silence discussion that doesn’t align with his views.

Who is he on Lemmy? I didn’t know he was here too. Do you have some examples of silencing discussion that doesn’t align with his views?

I’m aware of reports of him doing messed-up moderation on Reddit, which is sus. If it sounded like I was in his corner I am not. I’m just saying like you were that more clarity would be better.

Edit: There’s also this and this

[deleted] on 27 Apr 05:23 next collapse

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mosiacmango@lemm.ee on 27 Apr 05:30 collapse

Im all fucked up about the lemmy communities. I misread the subreddit list in a powertripping mods thread as a lemmy community list. Ill edit the above comments.

Eyekaytee@aussie.zone on 27 Apr 05:56 collapse

All 10 users of mastodon are so upset right now