Comments from multiple posts on the same page
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from rimu@piefed.social to fediverse@lemmy.world on 20 Mar 04:42
https://piefed.social/post/558705
from rimu@piefed.social to fediverse@lemmy.world on 20 Mar 04:42
https://piefed.social/post/558705
What do you notice about the comments on this post? piefed.social/post/555259
The post was made in the news@lemmy.world community and other posts linking to the same news article were made in technology@lemmy.world and in askusa@discuss.online. 3 different posts in 3 different communities.
PieFed de-duplicates them and only shows the post once in the timeline and when viewing the post all the comments on those 3 posts are shown in one place.
The fragmentation problem is solved.
threaded - newest
That’s a pretty good methodology. Threads are still distinct, but all on the same page at least. Hopefully lemmy can implement something similair.
I would reduce the distinctiveness of the threads, personally. Lemmy/reddit/etc commonly have separate subthreads on the topic same page, so its not like it needs to be a prominent feature that each subthread is from a different comm. Note it maybe, but less prominent seems better.
A couple of issues with little to no distinction:
Community rules. If 4 communities were in the same thread at once this would be harder for moderators to moderate, and for users to follow the rules/report. Since they can’t tell easily from which thread this comment comes from
Threads are not always crossposted with the same context. Example:
lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/40368868
reddthat.com/post/37396001
These threads are posted in different communities, their comment sections would be very different
Firstly: Thank you for your work! <3
It’s pretty hard to tell where the split is when you’re in a big comment section.
So i updated the fxomt theme to make it easier to tell the split: pub.microbin.eu/upload/eel-lion-turtle Difference:
<img alt="" src="https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/pictrs/image/bd881112-ca8f-40a1-9f54-b4b7e1464135.webp">
<img alt="" src="https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/pictrs/image/8735794e-a310-4ebe-9452-36977350c185.webp">
I think the default theme definitely needs to have that solved, though.
even just some margin-top would help
What happens when three different users post libks to the same article? Or when the test is different? Basically how do you match these posts?
They are matched by the url of where the post links to. So this only works for posts that have a url, not discussion or image posts.
Ok so exactly how mbin spots cross posts at the moment. But combining the comment sections is a cool idea. Obviously requires your server to be subscribed to the different communities, but still cool 👍
Yes we had a lot of inspiration from Mbin for this one.
So that's why cross-post won't be available everywhere ? Only certain use case ?
Yes, url is the only reliable way I could think of to match posts.
For image posts we could use a hash of the image data. But image cross-posts are not common so it doesn't seem urgent.
Okay, thank a lot i understand better. Perfect. :)
We use crosspost for english meme however a multi-meme community will solve it. If we regroup them in a topic, we won't need crosspost.
I wanted to use it for Peertube. The only problem i see is that [comment on a crosspost] won't post comment on the peertube video.
And if we comment their video, that would solve peertube problem : they have no comments on their video.
You could add linking to the same post, eg crossposting, to the criteria.
The urge to switch my server to piefed grows bigger every day.
what happens when there’s 2 different posts in the same community with the same URL, example:
programming.dev/post/8880813
programming.dev/post/1721399
(I can’t find a more recent example right now)
Those comments get merged into one tree. I think, didn't actually test that.
This is or at least was a problem with cross-posts in the same community in Lemmy as well. I think now Lemmy just prevents posts with the same URL to be counted as crossposts when they are in the same community.
That is excellent! I had suggested something similar for lemmy frontend devs to implement, but I love to see it natively on piefed.
That's why i recommand our instance moving to Piefed, it provides a better experience each update.
It is not ready yet for daily users. it will be difficult as there is no mobile app, but there is so much improvement...
So fell free to give your feedback to PieFed. :)
There will be soon :)
Really cool work.
Very cool, thanks!
I only see one title and one post body; what happens if 3 people share the same link but with 3 different titles and description bodies?
Do they get merged, does one get arbitrarily selected, or does this only work on posts with identical link+title+body?
Piefed keeps leading the charge eh? With every new feature added I wish even more that there was a mobile app for it. Well, that or Lemmy devs taking some inspiration and implementing something similar, I guess.
Thunder fork is ongoing
I’ll keep an eye on it, thanks! I was looking at Thunder the other day actually since Sync is probably going to stop working eventually. Sadly I found it a little buggy and lacking some features, but I’ll follow its development for sure.
!summit@lemmy.world is getting a lot of updates at the moment, you might be interested!
I’m following it as well! Still waiting on some features for it to be my daily driver, but I love how responsive and active the dev seems to be.
arctic and mlem are good too
Good news - https://join.piefed.social/docs/piefed-mobile/
When we do get a real mobile app out the door (not just a PWA), it'll be hard to keep it up to date with the web app. So many moving parts. We'll need to either slow down the charge or let the mobile app lag quite a lot.
It'd be so much better if everyone just used the PWA.
Hmm I guess some people might like this but I’d be a bit afraid of mixing different communities just because the same link is posted in them. Different communities might have different rules and different expectations for participation and such. This kind of mixes the different communities together.
Like imagine someone posts a link to an article to !nyheder@feddit.dk (Feddit.dk news community), which is already posted in !world@lemmy.world. If I understand correctly, I’d then see comments from both communities on the same page? But the comments on Feddit.dk will be in Danish and will probably largely be about how the news story affects Denmark, while the comments on lemmy.world will be in English and from a more international perspective. But muddling these things together takes away the “identity” of the community and suddenly you’ll be seeing stuff you maybe won’t want to see (i.e. danish comments for instance if you are not danish).
I think there at least should be a user preference to disable this, and an option for moderators to opt out of this, to avoid the above situation.
But the comments are still separated out by community in the example post. You can still see the discussion in !technology@lemmy.world as a stand alone, isolated discussion, but if you scroll further you also get the !AskUSA@discuss.online. I assume if you reply to a comment, you’re then replying in that community, but I didn’t test that.
Lemmy shows links to all the posts about the same link (I think) so it doesn’t feel like an improvement over that
I was excited about this feature, but maybe it is not such a great idea.
https://piefed.social/post/559376
It’s a little bit not-obvious that the top comments are from News@lemmy.world here
<img alt="" src="https://programming.dev/pictrs/image/c102b020-4ed0-46a5-818a-2155be84e250.png">
Maybe they should get a header just like all the other communities do for their sets of comments?
the comments from the other communities actually stand out more than the comments of the current community, due to the headers, without the header the comments just kinda blend in
Yes, somewhat. But viewing a post usually doesn't happen in isolation - before coming to this page the viewer will have just seen a teaser of the post, containing the community icon and name OR have been browsing that community. It's not as bad in context.