GlassHalfHopeful@lemmy.ca
on 18 Jan 19:26
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Good for Daniel. đ
Hereâs to hoping for more and more attention!
mesamunefire@lemmy.world
on 18 Jan 19:27
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Excellent. They are seeing huge growth. Iâm hoping itâs sustainable, the main server is just getting slammed right now (according to the mastodon posts).
According to fedidb all they need is 70k ish more people and I get will surpass Lemmy in number of users.
mesamunefire@lemmy.world
on 18 Jan 20:26
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Most servers do. Depends on their block/allow list and their setup.
The software supports it, you just need to make sure one of your users has followed an account/lemmy community on the pixelfed side and make sure a lemmy account follows an account on the pixelfed side.
Its not a perfect solution, but it gets the job done after that. (I tested this on an older version of lemmy and a new bleeding edge version of pixelfed)
One of the biggest ongoing issues with lemmy is that all the other fediverse systems generally work together pretty well but then you get to lemmy and it worksâŚkinda? Mostly? But there is always quirks, like only being able to post but not see comments. as I say on lemmy :). I like the platform because of the ongoing community that seems to stick around and have sustainable growth (like oooold reddit).
you just need to make sure one of your users has followed an account/lemmy community on the pixelfed side
OK so I went to my pixelfed.social account, searched for â@superbowl@lemmy.worldâ and clicked on the âfollowâ button.
and make sure a lemmy account follows an account on the pixelfed side.
So⌠does it have to be a lemmy account on lemmy.world (for !superbowl@lemmy.world, say). And is there any particular pixelfed account that the lemmy account has to follow?
Thanks for the lead.
RmDebArc_5@sh.itjust.works
on 18 Jan 23:02
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The Lemmy account has to follow the Pixelfed account that is going to post to Lemmy
mesamunefire@lemmy.world
on 19 Jan 00:35
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search @username@pixelfed.social and you should see the user pop up.
@user@server.url just like any other account. It should show up. Another option is to search for the post on the top of lemmy and then navigate to their account.
These all refer to the main developer of pixelfed, dansup. The first one is dansupâs pixelfed account followed on slrpnk.net where my account is. The second one is dansupâs pixelfed account followed on lemmy.world, the biggest lemmy instance. The third one is dansupâs pixelfed account followed on lemmy.today, which is your instance.
The account is visible to me on the first two links. HYPOTHESIS: I think that means itâs âbeing followedâ by those instances? The account is NOT visible on the last link for me, I just get an error. NeatoBuilds, take a look at the last link: it might give you an error the first time, but HYPOTHESIS: if you refresh, I think it will be visible and that means itâs âbeing followedâ on your instance lemmy.today.
Oh cool yeah I was about to find my mastodon account and see posts and i could see my pixelfed account but shows it as no posts and no way to follow them
Yeah I donât think you can Follow people on the web interface of Lemmy, maybe on other interfaces. I think itâs more a matter of: is the Instance following the pixelfed/mastodon account. If so, then future posts will show up.
Ok the cool thing is you can post to lemmy from pixelfed the same way you do from mastodon by tagging the community and instance @community@instance.domain
Wow awesome. I made another couple comments on your post from pixelfed.social and mastodon.social (as âTerencioâ)
my comment made on mastodon.social showed up on pixelfed.social
my comment made on mastodon.social did NOT show up on lemmy.today/post/22411382 Hypothesis: bc nobody on lemmy.today is following that mastodon.social account?
my comment made on pixelfed.social did NOT show up on mastodon.social. specifically, mastodon.social/âŚ/113855663395156100 This was a bit of a surprise.
my comment made on pixelfed.social did NOT show up on lemmy.today/post/22411382 Hypothesis: again, bc nobody on lemmy.today is following that pixelfed.social account? Also, I forgot to add the â@sideoftheroad@lemmy.todayâ part.
They do. I could be wrong, but I donât think Pixelfed supports groups yet so I donât think you can interact in a meaningful way. I looked you up from pixelfed.social. I can see your account and could follow you but Pixelfed only shows posts with attached media so I canât see any of your posts/comments.
Yea Iâve been trying too, I can also search, see and âfollowâ comms and itâll pull up things like the sidebar info, but actual content is missing
So itâs there, but very broken unfortunately. I should make a note to open an issue if thereâs not one already
Isnât this the dilemma? Each type of fediverse project has its own focus, presenting posts in different ways. If we increase interoperability to the point where everything can be presented fully on any service, will each service be able to keep their focus? Would there be a point in having pixelfed when mastodon exists?
breakfastmtn@lemmy.ca
on 19 Jan 06:02
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I donât think it should be a dilemma - but some do. I donât see why there canât be different corners of the Fediverse. This is my most isolated account here and Iâm fine with that. I donât personally want or need integration with Mastodon. Iâm glad mbin has that for people who do but Iâm not interested in it. And I think itâs kind of cool that there are different cultures within Fedi. Mastodon, Pixelfed, and Lemmy are all so different from each other and I donât think itâs a problem to solve.
I know the ActivityPub authors were concerned about Mastodon getting so big because it only implements a small portion of the AP spec. So theyâre stoked that others are building out in ways that expand beyond the needs of microblogging.
wesley@yall.theatl.social
on 19 Jan 13:14
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Mastodon is an app for sharing text that can also share pictures and videos. Pixelfed is an app for sharing pictures and videos with limited text.
You can curate a feed of pictures on Mastodon by following hashtags like #cats or #catstodon, but the interface is going to always emphasize the text first. Meanwhile on Pixelfed I can follow those same hashtags and get a much better experience for a feed primarily of pictures. Even though many/most of the posts will inevitably come from Mastodon users I can still browse those in my Pixelfed app in a much cleaner way. Artists can post their work from a Mastodon account, but the best way to view all their posts is going to be from Pixelfed.
This is why interoperability is a good thing. The whole point of federation is that different apps can implement their own version of the spec to curate a different type of user experience.
Then they doubled theirs in 15ish days, which is crazy good.
wise_pancake@lemmy.ca
on 18 Jan 21:57
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I need to set my own instancesâŚ
I_Miss_Daniel@lemmy.world
on 18 Jan 22:20
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I canât log in now on Android. Could last night. Guess itâs growing pains.
wesley@yall.theatl.social
on 19 Jan 13:25
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Iâm not on the main pixelfed.social instance but mine went down for a bit this morning. I just waited a bit and then I was able to login again.
Mastodon and Lemmy also had a lot of trouble even they experienced these huge waves of migrations partly because no one had scaled the software this far before
I_Miss_Daniel@lemmy.world
on 19 Jan 20:38
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Mine started working again :)
Aussieiuszko@aussie.zone
on 18 Jan 20:16
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Dan tends to work on too many things simultaneously (which isnât bad per say, and he thrives doing so) which means things get stalled and its a little hectic. Hoping more funds and community excitement will help spread the work out more and allow him to keep working as he does without other projects being on pause in the meantime.
A few of those projects just need to mature and have teams working on them, I think. Thereâs nothing wrong with him bouncing around to different projects but it sucks that no oneâs working on Pixelfed if he isnât. Itâd be great if he could secure enough funding for an additional paid dev on each of his major projects.
onlinepersona@programming.dev
on 18 Jan 21:36
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breakfastmtn@lemmy.ca
on 18 Jan 21:47
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Yeah, itâs crazy. Same thing for Loops, FediDB, Sup, and his million other projects. Heâs a one man band right now. And he has a full-time job on top of that!
I donât think that can go on for much longer with Pixelfed blowing up â and theyâre still onboarding about 1000 people per hour. Just for moderating pixelfed.social, he said yesterday that heâs received more reports in the last 48 hours than in the last 7 years. Thereâs only so many hours in a day.
fuck_u_spez_in_particular@lemmy.world
on 19 Jan 12:26
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This is not that uncommon in open source, but Iâd think that something like this community project would be more decentralized, i.e. as a lot of people (especially technical people) use it, and see rough edges, that their motivation would be higher to contribute then.
unknown1234_5@kbin.earth
on 18 Jan 20:46
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nice. I don't like that kind of social media, but that means the fediverse is getting attention and people may start migrating here instead of to progressively more privacy-violating platforms.
Great! Seems like a small subset of people are coming to the fediverse again like durring the reddit blackout. Always love having more people to speak to.
Grandwolf319@sh.itjust.works
on 18 Jan 22:35
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Great stuff, I donât do Instagram but I installed the app just to boast their numbers a little
Iâm doing my part!
LoganNineFingers@lemmy.ca
on 19 Jan 00:55
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I did the same thing!
wesley@yall.theatl.social
on 19 Jan 12:52
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I donât do Instagram either but PixelFed has pretty chill vibes. I followed some hashtags like #cat and #nature and now I have a nice little feed of cats and nature.
I also intalled it and im just gonna post cat and nature picks to boost the numbers and maybe even engage with the community. Never used instagram before but maybe this is the thing thats gonna encourage me.
dhhyfddehhfyy4673@fedia.io
on 19 Jan 02:17
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Mainstream media is an antiquated term. Been a while since they've been mainstream. Corporate media, or legacy media even, is more suitable nowadays.
captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works
on 19 Jan 02:31
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Itâs like how people still say âinternet famous.â There are Tiktokkers with larger followings than movie stars these days.
Zero22xx@lemmy.blahaj.zone
on 19 Jan 05:50
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Is that really the same thing though? Just for a random example of the first actor that popped in my head, Chloe Grace Moretz probably doesnât have as big a social media following as Skibidi Kid or whereas I could probably find random people in the streets in the 3rd world country that I live in if I just had to start bringing up her name without any further details. Whereas Skibidi Kid is only known by the other Skibidi kids on that particular platform and probably wonât even be a big deal next year, like Dab Kid.
I used to see people express the same sentiment towards YouTubers and itâs the same deal there IMO. SaltyPeeDrinker or whatever might cause a big ruckus in certain circles on the internet and have a bunch of incel fans but outside of the internet and in the real world, nobody actually gives a fuck. Not in remotely the same way as with movie stars, music stars, sports stars etc. These people arenât that important or significant, theyâre just another feature of online brainrot.
Edit: I feel like online âcontentâ creators are related to actors and musicians in the same way that AI art is related to human art or reality TV is related to Breaking Bad.
captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works
on 19 Jan 06:31
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And what was everyone watching during the pandemic? Tiger King.
You can think as much or as little of social media and/or the film industry as you like, but there a noticeable change in the older media regarding its âtalentâ: Itâs less common for them to have personal brands, quite unlike social media personalities.
Zero22xx@lemmy.blahaj.zone
on 19 Jan 06:59
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I hear your point but also it might be a mostly first world thing. So kinda like comparing local country music artists to Michael Jackson. Maybe other 3rd world denizens can chip in but here (so this is purely anecdotal) but in my corner of the world, we watched movies and series and played games and shit like we wouldâve pre social media.
Personally Iâm not even sure what Tiger King is (and not that interested in finding out either, if Iâm being honest) and if I go outside and ask around here, Iâm not sure how many answers I would get. Possibly Iâd get an answer once school is out and kids are around, I guess.
Edit: just to add, I hope this doesnât go the same way as the time I was trying to explain to Americans that the NBA really isnât this global phenomenon in every household and that John Cena is probably more famous here.
Just remember this when you see people complain about having to pick a server when joining Mastodon. Itâs not that, maybe itâs just not easy/intuitive lile PixelFed is making it? I donât know.
And then when people were joining, I just saw them complaining about all the anger/aggression on Mastodon. It mayâve missed a big jump on point with Blueskyâs rise, but there will invariably be more. People just have to be ready and willing.
jaggedrobotpubes@lemmy.world
on 19 Jan 03:52
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The Fediverse needs UI work. The new world needs a new internet.
Iâm thankful we have this glorified hobbyist project of a micro internet, because itâs awesome. Itâs time for real layout work to make things more intuitive, instead of this âjust solder itâ open-source-in-the-bad-way energy that sometimes gets half-assedly splattered around.
For everybody who has and is working on the Fediverse, thank you.
âYou want this thing to be better? Well why donât you single-handedly do all the work yourself then? Obviously only those with the skill to do something can hope for that thing to happen!â /s
Feathercrown@lemmy.world
on 19 Jan 06:34
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God I hate this attitude. Itâs so obviously wrong and yet people fall for this trap again and again. Stop doing this please, think about it and youâll realize itâs stupid.
I already know, but I also hate the âwow this shit we have sucks why isnât it better god someone please donate their skill to improve this thing I consume for free already and also show up to complain about while doing nothingâ
The reason I dislike this comment is it characterizes the work of many different people as âdonât care.â I would bet money that there are people who work on fediverse projects who care very deeply about UX but have to settle because they have day jobs.
The UIâs arenât that bad. Theyâre replicating existing apps/styles and then bolting on features. In some clases like immich, theyâre replicating them so closely theyâre probably open for lawsuit :)
Loops is 75% TikToc. Lemmy is 60% Reddit.
If we had a couple of UI artists and Usability people join the projects and crank out designs, I wonder if the devs would implement them and spend the time making the output true to the design.
independantiste@sh.itjust.works
on 19 Jan 16:22
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I only used sync on reddit and thatâs all I use on lemmy, tried many of the others and theyâre good but not perfect, for both the closed source and open source projects
Lemmy is lucky to have alternative frontend like Photon, Tesseract and Alexandrite
WhiskyTangoFoxtrot@lemmy.world
on 19 Jan 11:58
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âThe UI is badâ is the stock attack on any open-source project. Doesnât matter how good the UI actually is, or how bad the corporate version is, âbad UIâ is such a nebulous criticism that you can apply it to anything.
Well, people make good code that is open source, even though it doesnât make them any money. Same with wikipedia articles.
So why are we not seeing more contributions in the form of better UX/UI it the open source world? I donât see a logical reason why that has to be the case. The question is what can we do to change it, and also get UX-designers on board?
If they made it so your average joe could contribute to the Fediverse with their own hardware Iâd contribute. Tired of seeing social media be owned by Billionares.
Source hasnât been released, but the dev has said it will be and thereâs no reason to doubt that IMO. Same dev as pixelfed which is open source and federated
Iâve heard discussion of Pixelfed on both TikTok and RedNote, which is exciting! Hopefully itâs easy to use.
AI_toothbrush@lemmy.zip
on 19 Jan 16:03
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You what we need? A snapchat alternative. I actually like the idea of snapchat even though i hate the product. Just sending a random picture to your freinds every day is a cool thing imo. And it would be pretty easy to implement probably because you wouldnt need to federate posts just send it to the users you sent it to.
Signal has a lot of overlap there. Theyâve got disappearing messages and Stories
VintageGenious@sh.itjust.works
on 19 Jan 20:00
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Signal could provide that with a few more features
ilinamorato@lemmy.world
on 19 Jan 20:31
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Honestly, just building an RCS app with easy grouping, quick captions, streak tracking, and delete requests would be the way to go with this. Then you have an immediate network effect of every iPhone and Android user in the world, and you donât have to get your friends to switch if they donât want to.
Iâm so happy to see an Instagram alternative. We can continue helping people find a better way to post and engage without giving data to everyone and their mom
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Cool
Good for Daniel. đ
Hereâs to hoping for more and more attention!
Excellent. They are seeing huge growth. Iâm hoping itâs sustainable, the main server is just getting slammed right now (according to the mastodon posts).
According to fedidb all they need is 70k ish more people and I get will surpass Lemmy in number of users.
Does Lemmy federate with pixelfed posts?
Kinda
The Fediverse way.
Most servers do. Depends on their block/allow list and their setup.
The software supports it, you just need to make sure one of your users has followed an account/lemmy community on the pixelfed side and make sure a lemmy account follows an account on the pixelfed side.
Its not a perfect solution, but it gets the job done after that. (I tested this on an older version of lemmy and a new bleeding edge version of pixelfed)
One of the biggest ongoing issues with lemmy is that all the other fediverse systems generally work together pretty well but then you get to lemmy and it worksâŚkinda? Mostly? But there is always quirks, like only being able to post but not see comments. as I say on lemmy :). I like the platform because of the ongoing community that seems to stick around and have sustainable growth (like oooold reddit).
OK so I went to my pixelfed.social account, searched for â@superbowl@lemmy.worldâ and clicked on the âfollowâ button.
So⌠does it have to be a lemmy account on lemmy.world (for !superbowl@lemmy.world, say). And is there any particular pixelfed account that the lemmy account has to follow?
Thanks for the lead.
The Lemmy account has to follow the Pixelfed account that is going to post to Lemmy
How do you find a pixelfed account through lemmy?
search @username@pixelfed.social and you should see the user pop up.
@user@server.url just like any other account. It should show up. Another option is to search for the post on the top of lemmy and then navigate to their account.
Example: @dansup@pixelfed.social
If that doesnt work, you can try this: lemmy.world/u/@dansup@pixelfed.social
in other words your telling lemmy to go to his personal account, which happens to be on another server.
I think I figured it out⌠consider the following links:
These all refer to the main developer of pixelfed, dansup. The first one is dansupâs pixelfed account followed on slrpnk.net where my account is. The second one is dansupâs pixelfed account followed on lemmy.world, the biggest lemmy instance. The third one is dansupâs pixelfed account followed on lemmy.today, which is your instance.
The account is visible to me on the first two links. HYPOTHESIS: I think that means itâs âbeing followedâ by those instances? The account is NOT visible on the last link for me, I just get an error. NeatoBuilds, take a look at the last link: it might give you an error the first time, but HYPOTHESIS: if you refresh, I think it will be visible and that means itâs âbeing followedâ on your instance lemmy.today.
Oh cool yeah I was about to find my mastodon account and see posts and i could see my pixelfed account but shows it as no posts and no way to follow them
Yeah I donât think you can Follow people on the web interface of Lemmy, maybe on other interfaces. I think itâs more a matter of: is the Instance following the pixelfed/mastodon account. If so, then future posts will show up.
Ok the cool thing is you can post to lemmy from pixelfed the same way you do from mastodon by tagging the community and instance @community@instance.domain
pixelfed.social/p/âŚ/786611218333562037
lemmy.today/post/22411382 side of the road
[@sideoftheroad@lemmy.today](h
Wow awesome. I made another couple comments on your post from pixelfed.social and mastodon.social (as âTerencioâ)
Yeeees, but the two wonât generally see each other unless they try. Thatâs my understanding.
They do. I could be wrong, but I donât think Pixelfed supports groups yet so I donât think you can interact in a meaningful way. I looked you up from pixelfed.social. I can see your account and could follow you but Pixelfed only shows posts with attached media so I canât see any of your posts/comments.
Yea Iâve been trying too, I can also search, see and âfollowâ comms and itâll pull up things like the sidebar info, but actual content is missing
So itâs there, but very broken unfortunately. I should make a note to open an issue if thereâs not one already
Isnât this the dilemma? Each type of fediverse project has its own focus, presenting posts in different ways. If we increase interoperability to the point where everything can be presented fully on any service, will each service be able to keep their focus? Would there be a point in having pixelfed when mastodon exists?
I donât think it should be a dilemma - but some do. I donât see why there canât be different corners of the Fediverse. This is my most isolated account here and Iâm fine with that. I donât personally want or need integration with Mastodon. Iâm glad mbin has that for people who do but Iâm not interested in it. And I think itâs kind of cool that there are different cultures within Fedi. Mastodon, Pixelfed, and Lemmy are all so different from each other and I donât think itâs a problem to solve.
I know the ActivityPub authors were concerned about Mastodon getting so big because it only implements a small portion of the AP spec. So theyâre stoked that others are building out in ways that expand beyond the needs of microblogging.
Mastodon is an app for sharing text that can also share pictures and videos. Pixelfed is an app for sharing pictures and videos with limited text.
You can curate a feed of pictures on Mastodon by following hashtags like #cats or #catstodon, but the interface is going to always emphasize the text first. Meanwhile on Pixelfed I can follow those same hashtags and get a much better experience for a feed primarily of pictures. Even though many/most of the posts will inevitably come from Mastodon users I can still browse those in my Pixelfed app in a much cleaner way. Artists can post their work from a Mastodon account, but the best way to view all their posts is going to be from Pixelfed.
This is why interoperability is a good thing. The whole point of federation is that different apps can implement their own version of the spec to curate a different type of user experience.
Monthly active users is probably a more relevant metric
in that case they blew past lemmy before the exodus.
The insta crowd is super active.
Thatâs great!
It makes sense as well, IG is much more popular than Reddit
Then they doubled theirs in 15ish days, which is crazy good.
I need to set my own instancesâŚ
I canât log in now on Android. Could last night. Guess itâs growing pains.
Iâm not on the main pixelfed.social instance but mine went down for a bit this morning. I just waited a bit and then I was able to login again.
Mastodon and Lemmy also had a lot of trouble even they experienced these huge waves of migrations partly because no one had scaled the software this far before
Mine started working again :)
Kinda looks like it says cunt behind the guy.
More like cuat
Kickstarter coming sometime soon to get some more resources going for it and related projects. will be interesting to see if itâs effective.
kickstarter.com/âŚ/pixelfed-foundation-2024-real-eâŚ
Dan tends to work on too many things simultaneously (which isnât bad per say, and he thrives doing so) which means things get stalled and its a little hectic. Hoping more funds and community excitement will help spread the work out more and allow him to keep working as he does without other projects being on pause in the meantime.
A few of those projects just need to mature and have teams working on them, I think. Thereâs nothing wrong with him bouncing around to different projects but it sucks that no oneâs working on Pixelfed if he isnât. Itâd be great if he could secure enough funding for an additional paid dev on each of his major projects.
Holy shit, no kidding. He has the most commits by a long shot. 9991 commits vs the #2 at 210 commits.
Maybe with this attention the app is getting, it can kick off like mastodon.
Anti Commercial-AI license
Yeah, itâs crazy. Same thing for Loops, FediDB, Sup, and his million other projects. Heâs a one man band right now. And he has a full-time job on top of that!
I donât think that can go on for much longer with Pixelfed blowing up â and theyâre still onboarding about 1000 people per hour. Just for moderating pixelfed.social, he said yesterday that heâs received more reports in the last 48 hours than in the last 7 years. Thereâs only so many hours in a day.
Wait, heâs behind FediDB too?
Yep!
" Built by pixelfed. Proudly serving the fediverse since 2020. "
Fedidb
Cool!
This is not that uncommon in open source, but Iâd think that something like this community project would be more decentralized, i.e. as a lot of people (especially technical people) use it, and see rough edges, that their motivation would be higher to contribute then.
nice. I don't like that kind of social media, but that means the fediverse is getting attention and people may start migrating here instead of to progressively more privacy-violating platforms.
Great! Seems like a small subset of people are coming to the fediverse again like durring the reddit blackout. Always love having more people to speak to.
Great stuff, I donât do Instagram but I installed the app just to boast their numbers a little
Iâm doing my part!
I did the same thing!
I donât do Instagram either but PixelFed has pretty chill vibes. I followed some hashtags like #cat and #nature and now I have a nice little feed of cats and nature.
I also intalled it and im just gonna post cat and nature picks to boost the numbers and maybe even engage with the community. Never used instagram before but maybe this is the thing thats gonna encourage me.
I was surprised when my friend casually brought up Pixelfed (he called it âPixelfeedâ) and Bluesky the other day.
For the average person who doesnât understand or care about federated systems, âpixelfeedâ is probably a better name. It feeds you pixels.
tbh I always thought of the original name as âbeing fed by pixelsâ
Iâm guessing itâs a pun on both fed meaning âeats, runs on, is powered byâ and âfederation/fediverse.â
Now all we âneedâ is a Facebook-like platform on ActivityPub and the set is complete
friendi.ca
Thanks for reminding me of Friendica
Mainstream media is an antiquated term. Been a while since they've been mainstream. Corporate media, or legacy media even, is more suitable nowadays.
Itâs like how people still say âinternet famous.â There are Tiktokkers with larger followings than movie stars these days.
Is that really the same thing though? Just for a random example of the first actor that popped in my head, Chloe Grace Moretz probably doesnât have as big a social media following as Skibidi Kid or whereas I could probably find random people in the streets in the 3rd world country that I live in if I just had to start bringing up her name without any further details. Whereas Skibidi Kid is only known by the other Skibidi kids on that particular platform and probably wonât even be a big deal next year, like Dab Kid.
I used to see people express the same sentiment towards YouTubers and itâs the same deal there IMO. SaltyPeeDrinker or whatever might cause a big ruckus in certain circles on the internet and have a bunch of incel fans but outside of the internet and in the real world, nobody actually gives a fuck. Not in remotely the same way as with movie stars, music stars, sports stars etc. These people arenât that important or significant, theyâre just another feature of online brainrot.
Edit: I feel like online âcontentâ creators are related to actors and musicians in the same way that AI art is related to human art or reality TV is related to Breaking Bad.
And what was everyone watching during the pandemic? Tiger King.
You can think as much or as little of social media and/or the film industry as you like, but there a noticeable change in the older media regarding its âtalentâ: Itâs less common for them to have personal brands, quite unlike social media personalities.
I hear your point but also it might be a mostly first world thing. So kinda like comparing local country music artists to Michael Jackson. Maybe other 3rd world denizens can chip in but here (so this is purely anecdotal) but in my corner of the world, we watched movies and series and played games and shit like we wouldâve pre social media.
Personally Iâm not even sure what Tiger King is (and not that interested in finding out either, if Iâm being honest) and if I go outside and ask around here, Iâm not sure how many answers I would get. Possibly Iâd get an answer once school is out and kids are around, I guess.
Edit: just to add, I hope this doesnât go the same way as the time I was trying to explain to Americans that the NBA really isnât this global phenomenon in every household and that John Cena is probably more famous here.
Just remember this when you see people complain about having to pick a server when joining Mastodon. Itâs not that, maybe itâs just not easy/intuitive lile PixelFed is making it? I donât know.
And then when people were joining, I just saw them complaining about all the anger/aggression on Mastodon. It mayâve missed a big jump on point with Blueskyâs rise, but there will invariably be more. People just have to be ready and willing.
The Fediverse needs UI work. The new world needs a new internet.
Iâm thankful we have this glorified hobbyist project of a micro internet, because itâs awesome. Itâs time for real layout work to make things more intuitive, instead of this âjust solder itâ open-source-in-the-bad-way energy that sometimes gets half-assedly splattered around.
For everybody who has and is working on the Fediverse, thank you.
Waiting on your obviously so skilled patches to make it happen.
âYou want this thing to be better? Well why donât you single-handedly do all the work yourself then? Obviously only those with the skill to do something can hope for that thing to happen!â /s
God I hate this attitude. Itâs so obviously wrong and yet people fall for this trap again and again. Stop doing this please, think about it and youâll realize itâs stupid.
I already know, but I also hate the âwow this shit we have sucks why isnât it better god someone please donate their skill to improve this thing I consume for free already and also show up to complain about while doing nothingâ
After you
The reason I dislike this comment is it characterizes the work of many different people as âdonât care.â I would bet money that there are people who work on fediverse projects who care very deeply about UX but have to settle because they have day jobs.
The UIâs arenât that bad. Theyâre replicating existing apps/styles and then bolting on features. In some clases like immich, theyâre replicating them so closely theyâre probably open for lawsuit :)
Loops is 75% TikToc. Lemmy is 60% Reddit.
If we had a couple of UI artists and Usability people join the projects and crank out designs, I wonder if the devs would implement them and spend the time making the output true to the design.
We have phanpy.social for mastodon, itâs great
I only used sync on reddit and thatâs all I use on lemmy, tried many of the others and theyâre good but not perfect, for both the closed source and open source projects
Iâm using Voyager. Itâs amazing that we have choices.
Reddit and Facebookâs interfaces arenât any better than anything weâre using, and theyâre full of sponsored content.
Voyager is pretty slick. I think itâs UI is almost perfect and waay better than the Reddit UI.
Lemmy is lucky to have alternative frontend like Photon, Tesseract and Alexandrite
âThe UI is badâ is the stock attack on any open-source project. Doesnât matter how good the UI actually is, or how bad the corporate version is, âbad UIâ is such a nebulous criticism that you can apply it to anything.
What is a âGood UI/UXâ ?
âThat what I am used to with years of muscle memory and anything that is different is bad UXâ usuallyâŚ
Which is amusing, because the UX for Facebook, X and TikTok are horrendous also. So much stuff buried under layers of settings
âThe UI is badâ = âIt doesnât feed me new and popular content automaticallyâ
Basically sums that up.
Well, thatâs intentional though. The stuff thatâs buried is the stuff that doesnât make them money.
Bad ux in open source is because nobody has any money.
Well, people make good code that is open source, even though it doesnât make them any money. Same with wikipedia articles.
So why are we not seeing more contributions in the form of better UX/UI it the open source world? I donât see a logical reason why that has to be the case. The question is what can we do to change it, and also get UX-designers on board?
Itâs a stock attack because unfortunately itâs generally a pretty safe attack vector
This will never happen without funding. Open Source severaly lacks funding big corporations have.
If they made it so your average joe could contribute to the Fediverse with their own hardware Iâd contribute. Tired of seeing social media be owned by Billionares.
I wonder if youâll mention Gemini, just for fun
Is Loops proprietary ? (Iâm being serious here)
Source hasnât been released, but the dev has said it will be and thereâs no reason to doubt that IMO. Same dev as pixelfed which is open source and federated
Dansup is required to release the source code for Loops under the Nlnet grantâs conditions I believe.
That clears my doubts, thank you
Iâve heard discussion of Pixelfed on both TikTok and RedNote, which is exciting! Hopefully itâs easy to use.
You what we need? A snapchat alternative. I actually like the idea of snapchat even though i hate the product. Just sending a random picture to your freinds every day is a cool thing imo. And it would be pretty easy to implement probably because you wouldnt need to federate posts just send it to the users you sent it to.
Signal has a lot of overlap there. Theyâve got disappearing messages and Stories
Signal could provide that with a few more features
Honestly, just building an RCS app with easy grouping, quick captions, streak tracking, and delete requests would be the way to go with this. Then you have an immediate network effect of every iPhone and Android user in the world, and you donât have to get your friends to switch if they donât want to.
You can do that with Signal ?
This is great! Pixelfed has been getting an influx of new users lately and it makes me happy that these sites are getting more traction!
Iâm so happy to see an Instagram alternative. We can continue helping people find a better way to post and engage without giving data to everyone and their mom