About federation with Threads: how is it possible that lemmy.world is federated? (lemmy.world)
from informapirata@lemmy.world to fediverse@lemmy.world on 26 Feb 2024 18:44
https://lemmy.world/post/12439889

Hi everyone, I’m one of the administrators of the Lemmy feddit.it instance - my nick is @poliverso@poliverso@feddit.it

Together with our fellow administrators, based on some impact assessments, we have decided not to operate any preventative block against Threads, but I am not aware that we are still federated. I noticed that your instance is federated to Threads instead, but I don’t understand how this was possible. The strange thing is that, from your instance, it is still not possible to view those dozen Threads accounts that are currently “federable”. So I wanted to ask you: is there a way to force federation?

Thanks in advance for your feedback, sorry for the inconvenience and best wishes for a happy holiday!

#fediverse

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SuperSynthia@lemmy.world on 26 Feb 2024 20:29 next collapse

I honestly don’t want to be federated with Threads or any social media giant. I really enjoy the organic discussion and lack of advertisements in fediverse compared to a strong amount of paint by numbers discourse/ads ads ads on the standard social media

haui_lemmy@lemmy.giftedmc.com on 27 Feb 2024 06:09 collapse

I agree. Thats why threads is blocked on my instance. I can only encourage peeps who really like lemmy to make their own private instances (maybe for a handful close friends) and add resilience and diversity to the fediverse. There even is some kind of easy deployment script now afaik.

Valmond@lemmy.mindoki.com on 27 Feb 2024 09:22 collapse

Yep but I don’t really think small instances work well just yet.

I have a powerful PC (enough RAM, cores, nvme etc on a 1Gb line, 700Mb up) and it’s incredibly slow most of the time, because I guess, there are not many users forcing the federation.

I’m working on some band-aid scripts to half-fix that until Lemmy catches up, but just so you know it’s not perfect for small communities yet it seems.

haui_lemmy@lemmy.giftedmc.com on 27 Feb 2024 10:24 collapse

We‘re having very opposite experiences then. Setting up a private instance wasn‘t crazy easy or anything but if it works, it mostly works well. Also, lemmy doesnt need a fast pc. A thread or two and half a gig of ram should suffice. The reason for it being slow could be either bad connection, too much downtime (not running 24/7), configuration error or old version (prior to 0.19.3 there were federation errors).

So I‘m pretty sure setting up your own has no downsides in terms of performance, absolutely not related to pc performance in any way. The only thing is knowledge required since both setting up and running can come with curveballs.

What problems are you experiencing exactly? Maybe I can help.

Valmond@lemmy.mindoki.com on 27 Feb 2024 17:25 collapse

Thanks for the feedback!

I had some massive problems with the first 0.19, which eventually was fixed but 0.19.3 just was so slow (and only had “minor fixes” IIRC) so after the painful time of the broken federation I reverted to 0.19.2 just because it “worked”. Maybe I should try the 0.19.3 again.

I do have a beefy PC with a good connection and it runs 24/24 so I’ll definitely try out the latest version (again).

Cheers

haui_lemmy@lemmy.giftedmc.com on 27 Feb 2024 18:00 collapse

Here is the post where I was told to upgrade since 0.19.2 didnt work too well. lemmy.giftedmc.com/post/216846

Also, it might be a good idea to remember that the 0 as first digit means lemmy is far from „ready“ for general use, just to manage expectations.

Valmond@lemmy.mindoki.com on 02 Mar 2024 17:05 collapse

Upgraded and it works well it seems, thank you!!

haui_lemmy@lemmy.giftedmc.com on 02 Mar 2024 19:33 collapse

Awesome! Love to hear it. I‘m still having months old posts pop up from the time I havent had 0.19.3 so maybe you will see that too but otherwise it should be working. Feel free to update further down the line.

Valmond@lemmy.mindoki.com on 02 Mar 2024 20:57 collapse

Thanks!

I gave a crosspost or two that doesn’t seem to have worked, will rhe come alive :-) ? Anyways I’ll check if a next one works as expected.

Will do and thanks so much for the support 😊💖!

Skullgrid@lemmy.world on 26 Feb 2024 19:22 next collapse

I’m not a fan of this either.

informapirata@lemmy.world on 26 Feb 2024 19:34 collapse

I understand your choices well. We have made an internal evaluation on the opportunity to federate Threads with our instances: with the mastodon poliversity.it instance we decided to silence Threads; with the Friendica poliverso.org instance we used the newly introduced functionality to obfuscate all the personal data of our users towards Threads; with the Lemmy feddit.it instance, however, we decided to leave the federation to try to allow Italian Threads users (feddit.it is an Italian-speaking instance) to use activitypub groups and discover the “free Fediverse”

thenexusofprivacy@lemmy.blahaj.zone on 28 Feb 2024 02:25 collapse

Great example of how there isn’t any one right answer here, it’s different for different instances. Can I quote this in the “What will instances do? Opinions differ!” section of …thenexus.today/should-the-fediverse-welcome-surv… ?

informapirata@lemmy.world on 03 Mar 2024 15:38 collapse

👍🏼

thenexusofprivacy@lemmy.blahaj.zone on 04 Mar 2024 17:22 collapse

Thanks! Here’s how it looks:

<img alt="InformaPirata describes another situation involving groups of instances with different stances …" src="https://lemmy.blahaj.zone/pictrs/image/b2cc259b-0f3f-49d0-afec-df5416398a7b.png">

informapirata@lemmy.world on 05 Mar 2024 11:19 collapse

Thanks for the mention. This is a very interesting and informative page for all users of the fediverse

mrshy@lemmy.ml on 03 Mar 2024 15:52 collapse

It looks like Twitter users are explicitly paying to access the Fediverse using servers like @bird.makup.

informapirata@lemmy.world on 03 Mar 2024 22:52 collapse

God likes voluntary suffering