Sub.club aims to fund the fediverse via premium feeds | TechCrunch (techcrunch.com)
from Fitik@fedia.io to fediverse@lemmy.world on 29 Aug 2024 23:05
https://fedia.io/m/fediverse@lemmy.world/t/1142433

Sub.club thinks premium feeds could also serve other use cases, like supporting helpful bots or generating funds to help maintain a community's Mastodon server, for instance.

#fediverse #instances #monetization

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FrostyTrichs@walledgarden.xyz on 29 Aug 2024 23:33 next collapse

“I think it’s important, for the ecosystem to thrive, that there be a way to have premium content to build businesses here,” he said. “That’s a fundamental belief.”

Hard pass.

There isn’t a need, that’s some bullshit. Maybe some want to monetize their platform, but certainly not all. Fuck this push for finding another way to charge people for shit at every turn being masked as creator support.

I hate it.

Fitik@fedia.io on 29 Aug 2024 23:45 next collapse

@FrostyTrichs Yep, TechCrunch even addressed it in the article

Developed over the past few months, sub.club shares engineering and design resources with Mammoth, the Mastodon app backed by Mozilla, Long Journey Ventures and Salesforce’s Marc Benioff. Though some fediverse supporters don’t like the idea of VCs and for-profit businesses entering their space, Mammoth’s co-founder Bart Decrem thinks bringing money into the fediverse could help it to thrive.

FrostyTrichs@walledgarden.xyz on 29 Aug 2024 23:53 collapse

I saw, I was just venting frustration at that specific viewpoint.

It’s annoying that the same tired tactics are being applied to every corner of the internet.

Fitik@fedia.io on 30 Aug 2024 00:02 next collapse

@FrostyTrichs Eh, personally, I think that as long nobody forces anyone to use something it's fine, more variety is always good for the federated network

saltesc@lemmy.world on 30 Aug 2024 01:53 collapse

You haven’t been on the internet long enough. This is how it starts…for like, the billionth time

Chozo@fedia.io on 30 Aug 2024 03:39 collapse

I mean, how else do you expect things to work? Internet platforms aren't free to operate. Isn't paying creators directly supposed to be the ideal solution, instead of infesting pages with ads?

halm@leminal.space on 30 Aug 2024 07:00 collapse

You’re already free to support developers and instance owners financially if they’ve set up either Patreon, OpenCollective or LiberaPay 🤷 That’s money going where it’s needed.

If I understand SubClub correctly, it’s monetisation on a user level, which in the past has only really given us influencers. I rather enjoy not having that kind of bullshit on the fediverse.

Chozo@fedia.io on 30 Aug 2024 07:14 next collapse

I'm not sure what the difference between SubClub or Patreon is supposed to be. Other than SubClub takes a smaller cut.

astro_ray@piefed.social on 30 Aug 2024 09:34 collapse

That's exactly what I thought when I first saw this. The difference in that they market it as a fediverse extension.

HKayn@dormi.zone on 30 Aug 2024 14:56 collapse

You’re already free to support developers and instance owners financially if they’ve set up either Patreon, OpenCollective or LiberaPay 🤷

Problem is, not enough people are doing it. Case in point: join-lemmy.org/donate

HKayn@dormi.zone on 30 Aug 2024 06:08 collapse

So how is your home instance financially sustaining itself? Surely you’re helping it, right?

astro_ray@piefed.social on 30 Aug 2024 09:43 next collapse

sub.club is not aimed at servers but monetization of content from individual users. Opposing this doesn't mean someone oppose supporting their home instance monetarily.

FrostyTrichs@walledgarden.xyz on 30 Aug 2024 11:03 collapse

Idk if this is some misguided insult or a legit question.

There is zero need for monetization and corporate bullshit to infiltrate Lemmy. People see an opportunity to get in on the ground floor of a newer social media and are quick to stink it up with the same old shit. Fuck that, I’m sick of it.

Lemmy does not have to be a carbon copy of the worst parts of the internet to survive. It is not a requirement to be a reddit clone or a cash generator or be profitable to be usable.

[deleted] on 30 Aug 2024 13:18 next collapse

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HKayn@dormi.zone on 30 Aug 2024 13:57 collapse

How do you expect your instance to cover its costs, then?

FrostyTrichs@walledgarden.xyz on 30 Aug 2024 14:10 collapse

The same way they are covered now.

HKayn@dormi.zone on 30 Aug 2024 14:35 collapse

Turns out you’re actually the owner of your home instance. I didn’t know that when I made my previous comments.

I’m guessing you’re currently paying for your instance’s upkeep out of pocket? I can’t spot any donation links on your instance. This might work for you personally, but do you really expect other, larger instances to do the same? Even donations are only rarely sustainable.

Linktank@lemmy.today on 30 Aug 2024 03:57 next collapse

You know what this world needs? More subscriptions! - These assholes.

veeesix@lemmy.ca on 30 Aug 2024 05:20 next collapse

I think I could get behind an instance subscription, granted it wasn’t an obscene amount. I wonder what the upkeep on mastodon.social could be.

sir@lemmy.xxxiver.se on 30 Aug 2024 06:24 collapse

Most instances, including yours (and mine), ask for donations. Maybe start there?

If you gave them even $1 a month it would probably cover the hosting costs, though not anybody’s time.

veeesix@lemmy.ca on 30 Aug 2024 12:59 collapse

That’s a great point. Here’s the Mastodon donation link in case anyone was interested!

halm@leminal.space on 30 Aug 2024 06:54 next collapse

Who the hell ever looked at the internet and figured, “The fediverse is really interesting, but it needs more annoying influencers who can be bought by corporations to peddle their wares”?

No thanks, please pack this up where it will not be found again.

JupiterRowland@sh.itjust.works on 30 Aug 2024 09:18 next collapse

Any bets this will only work with Mastodon because it was built and designed only against Mastodon?

I wouldn’t even be surprised if other Fediverse server apps could simply circumvent sub.club if sub.club assumes that everything else out there works like Mastodon, too.

[deleted] on 30 Aug 2024 13:21 collapse

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RobotToaster@mander.xyz on 30 Aug 2024 21:19 next collapse

Just what the fediverse needs, micro-transactions!.

wiki_me@lemmy.ml on 31 Aug 2024 13:09 next collapse

Some types of content might take days to research or work on and might not have the audience to allow monetization by ads . mitra exists for those types of things and is open source unlike this project (it seems).

macattack@lemmy.world on 02 Sep 2024 12:49 collapse

Regardless of how you feel about subscriptions, it’s a step in making the fediverse a more viable option for that that create content for a living.