What's a good instance to be on at the moment?
from lemmyingly@lemm.ee to fediverse@lemmy.world on 18 Jun 19:18
https://lemm.ee/post/67199926
from lemmyingly@lemm.ee to fediverse@lemmy.world on 18 Jun 19:18
https://lemm.ee/post/67199926
I’m looking for a new instance since lemm.ee is closing by the end of the month. What’s a good instance to be on these days?
I’m looking for a instance with the fewest trolls, bots, and anyone that likes to take things to the extremes.
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Maybe dubvee? That’s kind of the exact vibe we’re fostering.
Site info: dubvee.org/site
Cons are that a lot of accounts are banned (rule 8) and we don’t federate with some instances: .ml, grad, hexbear, lemdroid (too much spam originates there). We’re kind-of the opposite of lemm.ee in a lot of ways, so it might be a bit jarring if that’s where you’re coming from.
Bots submitting content on behalf of people? That sounds like spam does it not?
It does, but I’m talking more about scheduled posts. Many instances require those to be tagged as bots.
.world
Sh.itjust.works
Sopuli.xyz
Lemmy.cafe
I’ve not heard of Sopuli or .cafe before. Do they cater for a niche audience or something?
Sopuli is Finnish, some Euro community are on there, although there are many generic communities as well.
All the instances are good in their own way, but at least one will irritate you very much, and it’s always different. There are ways each one can make you go “why???”
There are commenters who will call one or more instances bad things. That may or may not be accurate for you.
Each large instance has one or more crazy mods, all instances mostly have decent mods. Each instance will have multiple examples about why it’s good or horrible.
There are some instances far worst than others other. I think hex bear has been defederated by many for example.
And I agree with the crazies; I think it’s true for any group that’s large enough, regardless of platform or real world communities.
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It this was subtle parody then hat’s off, nicely done.
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This is a non-answer.
What matters most is the type of people in charge of the instance, why the decide to do certain things, and the types of decisions they’re likely to make in the future.
Not all instances are the same in that regard.
It is rather both sides, isn’t it?
But, after poking around lemmy, I have decided there is value in all instances. There will be communities nestled in between the stuff I do not like. I like and dislike much on lemmy
I don’t see a lot of the things you’re trying to avoid on my instance. But I almost always browse “subscribed” and mostly have no idea what’s going on in communities I’m not subscribed to.
I choosed lemmy.ml cause it was first i saw with no email registration
Yeah I’ve been very happy here. Despite a reputation as a “tankie instance” I find that we mostly just don’t put up with fascists which is sick imo.
Bubble-dwelling can indeed be a kind of sickness.
Depends; Closest thing to lemm.ee? Maybe lemmy.zip?
Here’s my own choices:
Dbzer0 and zip are probably the closest thing to lemm.ee in terms of defederation.
I don’t know the admin team at db0 can be interesting at times.
can you elaborate more?
I thought I’d be able to come with something funny but apparently I can’t on the spot so no it’s just a dumb reference to you being on the admin team there.
You regularly post interesting (and sometimes funny) content!
Yeah I’ve got nothing either. Kind of one of the reasons I’m on db0 actually.
What’s different about .zip? 🤔
Only negative thing i can name is that it blocks the UK, because of a law they don’t want to risk
Which law is that?
The Online Safety Act uk.lemmy.zip lemmy.zip/post/31644782
Thanks
Any website or service that utilizes the .zip TLD 🤮🤮
I’m sure there are great websites and services that utilize it, but I have a strong opinion that the TLD should have never been put out there for people to use. I block all .zip TLD domains with no exceptions; and so unfortunately, I cannot use lemmy.zip.
To be fair, I have no real opinions about lemm.ee. It was one of the instances that had the most users when I joined Lemmy, and as far as I’m aware it hasn’t received any real negative press.
I’m more bothered about seeing or being associated with spam and/or an instance full of toxic people. I’m not a spicy person - or so I’d like to think.
is the TLD just aesthetically unpleasing or are there technical issues with zip archive files?
Curious to know how one can judge one TLD over others just b/c I've never really thought ab it until now
Just gonna pitch in here, but I’m no expert. I was reading people’s reactions when that TLD was introduced, and they raised concerns over the possibility that a bad actor could spoof an address that actually downloads a .zip file to your device when you click the link, even though you may assume it’s an address to a page. No idea what a hypothetical virus could do from a compressed environment, but thats what I remember reading.
Sorry to any experts if I’m muddying the waters with a dumb take!
Wikipedia also offers some (limited) information: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.zip_(top-level_domain)
Yeah that’s the exact reason why I dislike the .zip TLD, and the same goes for .mov. The TLDs can be easily abused to look like something they’re not to trick people into visiting their website that downloads something malicious.
If you saw
ChromeUpdate202506.zip, then what do you believe it is? A downloadable update for Chrome or a website?What if a malicious person has purchased that domain and filled the website with something malicious, a virus, an info stealer, etc?
I block the .zip TLD because the domains can be used maliciously. Within the first few days there were hundreds/thousands of domains registered with names to look like zip files for updating software and the like.
I also block the .mov TLD for the exact same reason.
Sure on a good day you can spot the malicious intent from a mile away, but I like to protect for when I’m having a bad day. I also block the TLDs for the whole family as well because unfortunately they’re not as tech savvy or meticulous.
could just let only lemmy.zip and piefed.zip through and avoid the issues still
Zip’s a very trustworthy instance, all admins know about it; so i doubt anything wrong will happen in that regard 😉
Problem isn’t so much defederation policy in and of itself, as much as it is just the general level-headedness of the admins
Lemm.ee’s lead admin had exactly the type of philosophy towards managing this platform that I want to see in wherever I go next.
This post alone is what convinced me to create a primary account there. It’s professional, level-headed, nuanced, well spoken, and you can tell they’ve actually thought a lot about the big picture in an unbiased way. Not aggressive, preachy, standoffish, snarky, snobbish, and above all, not reactionary. Seeing the instance as infrastructure is what I want to see more of, but I also just want to see admins with this attitude overall.
Fingers crossed, but we also know Lemmy might not be ready for that type of philosophy. I mean I still don't know what exactly happened, but lemm.ee wasn't successful in the end. And the underlying issues are still there. So the next admin team might face the same dynamics.
Unfortunately that philosophy led them to close down their instance due to burnout, so maybe it’s not exactly a winning one 😅
+1
I picked dbzer0 myself.
Db0 isn’t like lemm.ee they defederated more readily and instance ban people for not having a left bias.
I've found that self-hosrinf my own instance has been a very good way of keeping the number of bits, spammers and people that like to take things to the extremes at a nice and consistent 0.
Sure, self hosting your own instance isn't for everyone but it's definitely doable and I'm satisfied with my experiences so far.
I like the idea of self hosting; I’m just concerned about being defederated by an admin/mod that’s taken things the wrong way.
I’m not a spicy person, but I’m sure I’ve upset some people, some how. I say that, but I know I’ve upset at least one person online.
The person stated they do a thing, and me being curious, I asked them a question about it because I wanted to know more. They replied with a really angry message. It sounds preposterous but it really was as benign as that. I’ve seen the same person respond to others in the same unreasonable manner. It’s this type of person that I’m concerned about.
I don't think you need to worry about that too much. It's a very uncommon character trait for constructive people. Alike people who run a successful instance. Most of them are nice. And the very few who aren't, or are very agitated/argumentative will inevitably run into issues with other people as well... So there isn't much to loose.
.zip has the closest instance policies to .ee. A lot of .ee refugees moved there (me included). Some also moved to piefed if you’re considering that.
We’ve opened a piefed instance too - early days yet though: piefed.zip
lemmy.dbzer0.com
I’ve been pretty happy with how the instance I use has been run thus far, but it is focused around furries, so it won’t be something most people outside that subculture like I expect. Still, the fandom is big enough that someone in it looking for an instance might look at this thread, so I mention it anyway.
If you ask 5 different fediverse users about their favorite instance you will get 15 different answers.
Good good. I hope that’s the case. I’d prefer to see the variety of instances that people enjoy. :)
try lemmy.dbzer0.com. (totally unbiased)
we have pirates, memes, and shitposts galore (ahoy, matey!)
Pawb.Social 😋
RIP yiffit
Since you mention you have no real opinions about lemm.ee. You were just on there by chance.
I’ll propose you the style of blahaj which is to have downvotes disabled, its quite a different way to interact with lemmy, maybe a bit weird to get used to. But it feels much less hostile. And it fosters a good culture of just ignoring shitty takes and replies.
As far as “no extremes” you mentioned you prefer, blahaj blocks lemmygrad and hexbear (ultra authoritarians) and any far right instance (think hilariouschaos)
I've had a great experience here on fedia.io. It's a smaller instance, and it is running Mbin instead of Lemmy, but everything federates over so you get the same content. Might feel a bit weird switching from Lemmy, but if you feel like it I'd recommend giving it a try. :)
We're also defederated from Hexbear, lemmy.ml, and Lemmygrad if that's a factor.
Enjoy it as well, I also love how reliable it is, it's been around longer than software it's currently running(Mbin). The the same admin also runs infosec.exchange, a pretty well known Mastodon instance
I don’t know much about Mbin. I’ll have to look up what it’s about
You might like https://piefed.social.
You dont need to limit yourself to just one, feel free to diversify your presence.
But for a real answer: The smaller ones; The smaller the more respecfull they feel.
Though more users does demonstrate capabilities. Not every server is fast or stable.
My recommendation would be to find a local instance - one that’s closest to you - and sign up for that. I’m not in Atlanta, but I am in Georgia, so I signed up for the yall.theatl.social instance (the server is in Atlanta), and I couldn’t be happier. It’s a smaller instance, but I converse regularly with the admins when I have a question or a problem, and they are accessible and always open to suggestions.
I like it so much that I also use the theatl.social Mastodon instance as my main Mastodon as well. I throw them a few bucks every month to help with costs, and I’m happy to do it.
I would agree with those who say smaller instances are the way to go.
Yeah. Smaller instances for sure. I’m in Canada so I went with lemmy.ca and I’ve never had any issues and everything is just peachy 😌
Discuss.online is pretty awesome. 🤓
Second this 😀
@jgrim@discuss.online has been doing an awesome job of running it, and also created Sublinks as a Lemmy alternative
the one I’m on is pretty nice