Loops - short form video with ActivityPub - is now open source! (github.com)
from kernelle@0d.gs to fediverse@lemmy.world on 04 Sep 17:15
https://0d.gs/post/10905440

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FenderStratocaster@lemmy.world on 04 Sep 17:41 next collapse

All 7 users will be pleased.

Luci@lemmy.ca on 04 Sep 17:42 next collapse

8 now that’s it’s foss

kernelle@0d.gs on 04 Sep 17:45 collapse

Every platform had 8 users at one point!

moseschrute@lemmy.world on 04 Sep 17:52 collapse

Pretty sure Google+ only made it to 7

slazer2au@lemmy.world on 04 Sep 17:56 next collapse

That includes the 5 bots to drive engagement right?

kernelle@0d.gs on 04 Sep 18:34 next collapse

There must’ve been more than 7 devs working on it right? Right?

moseschrute@lemmy.world on 04 Sep 18:40 collapse

There were 15 stakeholders, 1 full time developer and 20 overseas contracted developers with a 12 hour time zone difference from the full time dev. All designs were done in PowerPoint by one of the stakeholders. The single full time developer was only ever able to talk to the PowerPoint design stakeholder, and the other 14 stakeholders communicated through the single PowerPoint stakeholder. Now that I think about it, the 15 stakeholders may have actually just been the 1 stakeholder pretending to be multiple people.

I once had a job that worked like that lol

kernelle@0d.gs on 04 Sep 18:52 collapse
ErrorCode@lemmy.world on 05 Sep 18:38 next collapse

My favorite joke at that time: why is there a G+ button on Pornhub?! I don’t want people to know I use Google+.

nocturne@slrpnk.net on 06 Sep 14:06 collapse

I was one of those 7 users, and so was my son that I had not seen since he was 5 days old. We reconnected through g+ after 16 years. It will always hold a special place in my digital heart.

wiki_me@lemmy.ml on 04 Sep 20:35 next collapse

It actually reports about 27K monthly active users and is one of the more popular platforms on the fediverse.

JustEnoughDucks@feddit.nl on 05 Sep 11:54 collapse

And I still can only get 0 like, 0 comment shaky cam video of a screen capture of ultra zoomed in tiktoks or blasting shitty electronika music at 100dB clipping all to hell with 2005 era Microsoft visualizer videos.

Just like pixelfed, there is no way to discover anyone except the same 10-12 rotation of people they put in explore.

I come back every month or two and swipe through 5-10 to see if anything has changed, but it never has. In the case of loops, the same number of creators, some of which haven’t posted a video for almost 8 months are “trending”? Maybe that is where the “active users” number comes from?

FenderStratocaster@lemmy.world on 05 Sep 12:31 collapse

I agree with you. It’s a cool conecpt, but TikTok and Instagram have their algorithms. Love it or hate it, those apps are great at keeping your eyes glued to the screen. Loops/Pixelfed may be less evil, but they are considerably more boring. I can scroll through loops for a few minutes and when you come back it starts again at the beginning and you see the same videos over again. Also, the scrolling is glitchy.

ThunderLegend@sh.itjust.works on 05 Sep 13:45 next collapse

It was my experience when I tried it earlier this year. Around 5 people posting a lot and the other casual users just uploading tik tok videos.

Scotty_Trees@lemmy.world on 05 Sep 17:35 collapse

Fuck Insta. Garbage predatory app that depresses the fuck outta me. Why the fuck would I want an open source version of that? I don’t need social media that badly, I’ll survive just fine without it. Too many people perceive and live their lives through social media and doing it for the gram. Fuck that noise.

FenderStratocaster@lemmy.world on 05 Sep 18:26 next collapse

When it started, I liked it. It sucked after Meta bought it.

Scotty_Trees@lemmy.world on 05 Sep 20:42 next collapse

I was a bit heated before, but you’re right it wasn’t bad in the beginning. But for myself, I ended up using it too much, to the point where I essentially planned out my weekends so I had things to post.

I guess you could say it was some ego-driven nonsense that motivated me to always be online and always having something new and fresh to show and always one upping myself to be bigger and better and bolder photos. But all of that burned me out. And in the end it was all so superficial 90% of the time.

Truthfully, eventually at some point, it just became depressing scrolling endlessly and seeing the best photos any photographer could want. It was just too much. That’s not entirely Insta’s fault, but also on me for not setting any limits or boundaries. But since uninstalling, my mental health went up noticeably quickly and I never looked back to use it because it serves no need for me.

nocturne@slrpnk.net on 06 Sep 14:02 collapse

I liked Instagram when it was a camera alternative app only.

sgnl@midwest.social on 06 Sep 14:18 collapse

Pixelfed is more of the Instagram replacement.

Loops is TikTok focused.

No comment on the rest of your post, just FYI.

Valon_Blue@sh.itjust.works on 04 Sep 17:48 next collapse

Is it finally ACTUALLY AP enabled now? Been waiting on that.

Valon_Blue@sh.itjust.works on 04 Sep 17:51 collapse

Answered my own question, supposedly it is.

<img alt="" src="https://sh.itjust.works/pictrs/image/d953bca9-6dc8-47ea-ae8e-6091d2866276.png">

underline960@sh.itjust.works on 04 Sep 18:22 next collapse

Question: can they get sued for putting TikTok-like in the description, or does that only apply when you’re making money?

joyjoy@lemmy.zip on 04 Sep 19:00 next collapse

Make a PR to replace it with “Shortform”

underline960@sh.itjust.works on 04 Sep 19:03 collapse

I don’t mind “TikTok-like”. I just think it’d be a silly reason for the project to shutdown.

unknownuserunknownlocation@kbin.earth on 04 Sep 21:05 collapse

IANAL, but I don't think there's a reasonable ground for a lawsuit (although there's nothing prevent an attempt). It's not claiming to be TikTok, that would be a clear trademark infringement. It's just saying it's similar to their service, and if you want to compare it (which is allowed), you have to refer to it somehow. Similar to when people say LibreOffice is an MS office alternative - Microsoft wouldn't have the grounds to sue there, either.

napkin2020@sh.itjust.works on 05 Sep 02:40 collapse

You anal? what a weird way to start a comment.

MrQuallzin@lemmy.world on 05 Sep 03:18 collapse

In case you’re serious (or for anyone else who may not know), it means “I am not a lawer”

box464@piefed.social on 04 Sep 18:35 next collapse

Last I heard, and this seems to be the case as of this moment as well, only a few accounts are federated for testing (as in, maybe just one?). Mine definitely is not. Of course, this could change at any moment since it's released as alpha.

cronenthal@discuss.tchncs.de on 05 Sep 17:48 collapse

They built it with PHP? Oof.

irelephant@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 04 Sep 18:18 next collapse

After announcing it ~7 times.

Chozo@fedia.io on 04 Sep 17:50 next collapse

So does this mean it's in a state where people can start hosting their own instances and begin federating yet?

Die4Ever@retrolemmy.com on 04 Sep 18:50 collapse

Seems like it, but nothing here yet aside from the official instance

loops.fediverse.observer/list

Kolanaki@pawb.social on 04 Sep 18:43 next collapse

I want to like Loops but I kinda do not like the lack of a recommendation system (I do understand why they don’t tho). And also it needs more users to actually have content. I keep checking it every once in a while, but 90% of what I scroll through are nothing but nature shots with the other 10℅ being extreme political hot takes or just (bad) memes ripped straight from tiktok.

joyjoy@lemmy.zip on 04 Sep 18:50 next collapse

The “Explore” tab always has the same 12 videos. Look at it again 6 months later, same videos.

underline960@sh.itjust.works on 04 Sep 19:02 collapse

Makes sense. It was in pre-alpha.

Now that it’s in alpha, you’ll have 13.

Once it hits beta, it’ll skyrocket to an even 20.

cyborganism@lemmy.ca on 04 Sep 20:20 next collapse

Everything has to start somewhere.

SoyTDI@lemmy.world on 05 Sep 10:57 collapse

I remember when he announced that videos could be uploaded from the website next week…he said that in February. In August, he said it would be possible soon. There was an instance (loops.gay) that allowed you to do that, but it disappeared.

Coopr8@kbin.earth on 04 Sep 19:49 next collapse

Looking great! I'd love to add this to my fedi-toolkit

scytale@piefed.zip on 04 Sep 20:13 next collapse

Good to know it’s still moving forward. I thought the project died because I’ve never really heard anything since the initial promotion of it a couple of months back.

Microw@piefed.zip on 05 Sep 07:18 collapse

Well, it is developed by a sole developer who also solo-develops Pixelfed. The guy spreads himself way too thin, so development moves slow.

hanrahan@slrpnk.net on 06 Sep 13:27 collapse

@dansup@mastodon.social

On Mastodon

autonomoususer@lemmy.world on 05 Sep 03:00 next collapse

‘Open source’ misses the point of libre software.

[deleted] on 05 Sep 11:26 next collapse

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captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works on 05 Sep 14:10 collapse

Another salvo fired in the battle between Perfect and its mortal enemy, Good.

[deleted] on 05 Sep 14:23 collapse

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autonomoususer@lemmy.world on 05 Sep 14:34 collapse

Try reading the title before getting your pussy in a scrunch.

AllYourSmurf@lemmy.world on 05 Sep 14:52 next collapse

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autonomoususer@lemmy.world on 05 Sep 14:54 collapse

what exactly has your dick in a twist here?

They think that’s ‘Be respect to others.’

captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works on 05 Sep 14:59 collapse

The title of this post is “Loops - short form video wtih ActivityPub - is now open source!”

To mean they’ve published the source code to the public. Reading further, I see “First alpha release” a couple times, meaning the project is in its very early stages and is just now in a state where the developer can upload it to Github for access by the public.

Viewing said Github repository, I find it is licensed under the AGPL, a strongly copyleft license. This software will be free to use, distribute, examine and modify forever under those terms. Looks like the intention here is for the software to be Stallman-style “Free.”

So you have apparently pissed your panties at the mere usage of the words “open source” in which case I’m not even going to bother to try telling you to go touch grass. You’re too far gone.

autonomoususer@lemmy.world on 05 Sep 15:03 collapse

You don’t need to have a mental breakdown over a comment saying the title’s wrong.

@captain_aggravated

[deleted] on 05 Sep 16:43 collapse

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autonomoususer@lemmy.world on 05 Sep 18:02 collapse

what exactly has your dick in a twist here? – @captain_aggravated

Let the mods handle them.

dil@lemmy.zip on 05 Sep 04:03 next collapse

Videos are hella compressed, dansup commented months ago saying hed update that soon increasing the limit, never did, my shit looks terrible

ThunderComplex@lemmy.today on 05 Sep 08:00 collapse

Again?