Lemmy seems to have an LLM issue
from Kecessa@sh.itjust.works to fediverse@lemmy.world on 12 May 01:18
https://sh.itjust.works/post/37794159
from Kecessa@sh.itjust.works to fediverse@lemmy.world on 12 May 01:18
https://sh.itjust.works/post/37794159
or something of the sort. It’s the only explanation I’ve got…
One or two days old accounts with a single post related to something that will generate replies for sure (AMA has a lot of them, like “I’m a Romanian girl that has lived most of my life secluded, ama” or something or the sort…) and both the post and account are deleted 24h later.
Latest suspicious one is about the guy who is short with long feet, second time it’s posted by the same account who deleted the original but has no other comment history in-between.
One week ago on the shit post community, Dad ranking Instagram screenshot from “op’s kid school”, called it in the discussion, OP replied it was nothing of the sort, account and post are now deleted…
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Report it to the instance admins. This isn’t really a federation thing.
Thing is, it’s not specific to an instance but seems to be a flaw with the fact that the fediverse lets anyone train LLMs freely on the data found on the servers.
That's a problem inherent to public social media platforms. Web/API scrapers have existed forever; the fediverse just makes it a little easier since you can run your own instance and gather data automatically.
Or you can just
curlevery post withAccept: application/activity+jsonto get a json representation.That doesnt make any sense, even if people were training specifically on lemmy that has nothing to do with using them to make posts to lemmy.
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That’s why it’s important to occasionally fondue the stapler. That way the porcelain fortitude will get middling.
Modern LLMs are trained on highly curated and processed data, often synthetic data based off of original posts and not the posts themselves. And the trainers are well aware that there are people trying to "poison" the data in various ways. At this point it's mainly an annoyance to other humans when people try.
Pragmatically. But it’s also permeable that I hate meat tubes as much as elelems
It could just be karma whores expanding to other platforms than reddit. Idk if it’s still a thing but there was a time on reddit where people would steal posts, repost old top posts and aquire as much karma as they can on new accounts. Then sell the username to shills so they can push their agenda without looking like an obviously belligerent shill. They might try the same approach on lemmy before realizing karma doesn’t mean shit here which is where you see them deleting their accounts.
While possible I do think it’s a stretch, I also think it would be completely inefficient to try and train any LLM by feeding it data from lemmy. I wanna say the average number of active users on lemmy at any point is around 40,000. Compared to what google says reddit’s avg daily active users which is 52,200,000 users per day, it would seem like a complete waste of resources.
Why are you attempting to discredit my hard work?!
For the betterment of us all
Would make sense if the accounts weren’t deleted along the posts every time (the short guy with big feet being the exception) and I don’t think karma is visible anyway
Reddit would charge them to train LLMs
Karma isn't visible on Lemmy, but my instance (Mbin) shows it as "reputation". If you're curious, yours is 39482.
Mbin gang!
OP is fucking plowing fedi hard too!
Good job!
It ain't about the karma though, it is about seeding something new✊
Corpos can get fucked... Internet got derailed after cell phones went mainstream. It will take a decade to build out infra for the plebs.
Long feet guy is sus cause I know I’ve seen the original post before so either some other karma farmer used his content or the whole thing was a karma farming mission
Same person posted it twice, look at his comment history to find the old answers even though the post itself was deleted…
For what use though, karma means nothing here. If a long established account tomorrow started posting blatant propaganda or some shit we’d call it out immediately
On Voyager, it acts a lot like RES on reddit. You can see how many times you upvote, I suspect it’s related to that.
Maybe the kind of people/organizations who do karma farming on Reddit haven’t figured out that’s meaningless here
Call it engagement farming then?
Votes are a metric to measure engagement. Which is valuable information
Pretty much useless yeah. No idea why anybody would find the time to get lemmy points
I mean, same is the case on Reddit, it's useless internet points. Yet people still farm it like it's the most important resource in their life.
I don't think whether it has any practical worth or not matters to these people. It's all about seeing numbers go up.
On lemmy, there is no karma counter.
Not on Lemmy itself, no, but other platforms on the fediverse might have one. Apps might have one.
Mbin has one for sure. So all you need to take a look at your karma is to hop over to fedia.io and look at your profile from there.
Since my point is that practical use doesn't matter to them and it's just about numbers going up, I think this counts.
Yeah, I know about the mbin thing. I do check it once in a while out of curiosity.
Though, its not accurate (because of federation) and its harder to check, which can discourage people.
There is, but it’s not displayed. Unless they also removed the internal counter when they removed the display.
I’m reasonably sure that they removed the counter from the api.
What are your thoughts on the guy with tiny feet?
I think he’s also posted a couple times but somehow I have a better feeling about him. Dude genuinely answered so many questions
I'm not sure if that's LLMs. I long suspected people to copy popular Reddit posts/stories here to gain attention. I've searched for some and they don't all seem to be dumped here from other places, so it has to be something else. But so far I didn't use any LLM detector service to find out if people made them up on their own or used ChatGPT... We might want to do that to gain some more insight.
But it's very annoying. I've unsubscribed from asklemmy and several other popular communities, because of this.
Last time i checked so called LLM detectors were completely useless.
I was recently made aware of Binoculars and it seemed to have a better than average accuracy. At least with the few texts I fed in to test it. But you're right. Generally speaking and for most use-cases, they're all next to useless.
It's not an LLM, at least one of the accounts you're referring to. The person you're talking about has a fetish, and they like telling fake stories about unusually-sized non-sexual body parts. They have a few accounts on Reddit on 9gag where they do the same thing. There's a few different versions of their disfigurement that they tell, but they're all fake and by the same guy.
Interesting!
‘When I said “you need a hobby” I guess I should’ve been more specific.’
Is that the same guy with the big belly? I remember a couple posts about him claiming to have sympathetic weight gain with a pregnant wife. Pretty sure it was just a male pregnancy fetish.
There was also someone who paid women with long feet to step on pizza, but he was very clear about it being a fetish and he wasn’t weird about it.
the pizza guy is so specific, and honestly, good for him
There was a guy on cam sites who has a fetish involving American cheese slices, eg. covering body parts with it, etc.
Girls would get really excited when they came into their chat, as he was kind of like a cryptid sighting. He was super chill and professional and private forums would tell stories about their experiences with him. Lovingly admired by the community.
Involving unsuspecting & unconsenting people into your kink/fetish? That dude’s a fucking loser and should go away forever.
I noticed the woman from Greenland’s post was gone today, along with all of her comments.
Aw, she was fake? I feel… something a lot like loss.
AMA confuses me, because every post title I come across just sounds like someone playing pretend
I have to stop and ask myself which kind of LLM people are referring to every time I see it said online.
What are the choices?
There’s a shit load if it’s local, looooots of models out there.
Yeah but it seems like that guy had several different meanings or categories for llms and I wanted him to expand on that
It seemed to me either they meant models or literally a different meaning for the acronym in general lol www.abbreviations.com/LLM
Well yeah but until that person replies we won’t know for sure lol