Microsoft doesn't understand the Fediverse
(cyberplace.social)
from Vittelius@feddit.org to fediverse@lemmy.world on 09 Sep 12:22
https://feddit.org/post/18581836
from Vittelius@feddit.org to fediverse@lemmy.world on 09 Sep 12:22
https://feddit.org/post/18581836
The admin of the Mastodon instance cyberspace.social just received an AI powered notice to delete the parody account @microsoft@lea.pet
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Microsoft is such a horrid company.
:D
Not that I have any sympathy for them but technically speaking, can we say "Microsoft does X" when it was just a "brand protection LLM"?
For sure they chose it to be an outward connection but are we really now stating that an LLM can represent a company? I feel like that's both "you are stupid for using LLMs that way" and empowering LLMs at the same time
They are the ones who configured the tool to be used this way. Yes, Microsoft did that.
The phrasing is really weird too. Like I would understand if they were asserting their trademark, but saying it’s an account they’ve lost access to?
They don’t even say they lost access. Lol they just say delete it. Fuck these assholes.
They say they do not have access to it.
Yeah. I don’t have access to it either. What does that mean? Of course they don’t have access to it. It’s not their account.
You're always responsible for the actions of those that you choose to represent you. Regardless of how stupid they may be.
Microsoft is at this point made up entirely of technically inept people running fraudulent mechanical Turks.
After forced to switch to Microsoft teams, I became their PM and developers are alien origin.
Like, some of the logic doesn’t make any human sense. Like, LLM slop would’ve done better.
$followers++
Do they know what enf means on the internet?
This is honestly a dumb post. It doesn’t say anything about “Microsoft” understanding or not understanding anything.
It just shows them using an automated system to try and take down an account that they think is infringing on their trademark. There are legal protections for parody accounts, but they are not absolute and it’s possible that Microsoft could get a court order compelling the owner to cease control of the account.
So I guess I’ll explain the post for you, since it seems you do not understand the fediverse, either.
cyberplace.social federates with lea.pet but is not responsible for and cannot control the Microsoft parody account on lea.pet. Microsoft sent the notice to the wrong server. That’s why Microsoft does not understand the fediverse or how federation works, and why the post is funny instead of dumb. Now you can laugh too! You’re welcome!
So it’s funny because the fediverse is so niche that no one designing automated copyright systems care about its odd and unique addressing system?
Yes, exactly! Now you get it!
An attempt at censorship failed because the censors didn’t understand the system they were trying to censor. I think that’s both funny and satisfying.
They didn’t care about this system. It just got caught up in their news sources.
This isn’t funny, it’s just a thing that happened.
…yet.
The instance rules state;
3 . No impersonation of a person or a brand. Even parodies.
6 . Each username on here should be a person, not a brand or corporation - and that person must be you, no impersonation.
Now I’m not coming to the defense of a corporation because fuck corps but wouldn’t this account violate those rules? Microsoft is a (shitty) brand and this is a parody of that.
I might be wrong but thats how I would interpret those two rules.
And again fuck microsoft, even if it does violate the instance rules it should be left alone just to piss of a shitty corp.
Edit: As TherapyGary pointed out, the instance they are on has no rule pertaining to parody accounts, My bad.
I believe the Microsoft account is hosted on Lea.pet, which doesn’t have those rules
<img alt="1000011553" src="https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/pictrs/image/57b498b7-2fd7-43c6-826c-a60b1cd5d61a.webp">
Fair point, I didn’t know those rules weren’t on lea.pet. That’s on me I should have checked, my bad.
Poor Ubuntu.
What does DNI mean?
Do Not Interact (with us) lol
:D
Also, what’s a valid reason for harassment?
Presumably using Ubuntu is one of them lol
Some might argue it requires a terminal level of brain worms to understand what is being said with rule 8. But I for one find beauty in this exactly level and flavor of petty, and I come to the fediverse for it.
could be a rule break of number 9
are we sure on the English translation?
@Una@europe.pub pls translate
“Reject humanity emprace meow meow mrrrp :3”
Ah I see, thanks ☺ Good kitty
what a nothing rule lol, every harasser believes they are justified
This rule is my favorite lol
I like rule 8
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Quick, everyone make a million parody accounts to troll microsoft harder.
“I’m not a businessman, I’m a business, man!”
-Jay-Z regretting his words
Stupid rules deserve breaking.
You’re making the same mistake Microsoft made
It’s not hosted on that instance. It’s hosted at another instance. You’re making the same mistake that the Microsoft bot AI did.
Microsoft doesn’t understand parody
When did they understand anything? Fuck MS
So, here's what I would do. I would comply (you should be able to delete the local instance of that account). But I'd also reply pointing out that it's a mirror of the real account hosted at lea.pet and their real beef is with them, and should that user interact with or generate content pushed to you, the local copy would be re-created.
Keep a copy of the email you send (because it's highly likely a human doesn't monitor that mailbox) and then move on with your life. If a real person then wants to complain you can just forward the email you sent and tell them the same still applies.
It's automated and the email indicates as such.
I feel like this is going to become a problem with federation in the future. A Mastodon instance is hosting content outside of its control that may or may not comply with its internal policies or local law. Is that instance protected legally? Likely not.
It would likely be treated the same way as auto forwarding an email would be treated.
this is why niche stuff on fedi is so funny sometimes. especially when a corporate entity tried to approach it, in the most corporate way lol.