Which reasonably sized instance to recommend newcomers?
from AwesomeLowlander@sh.itjust.works to fediverse@lemmy.world on 19 Dec 04:50
https://sh.itjust.works/post/29696204

Criteria: I’m looking for instances that are defed’ with the Big 3 tankies (lemmygrad, lemmy.ml, and hexbear). I have no interest in trying to persuade my friends to create an acc and set up instance blocks before diving in, or dealing with the feedback when they run into the tankie brigade.

Edit: lemmy.cafe and infosec.pub seem to fit. I also find it really interesting just how many of the replies totally ignored my stated criteria.

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PugJesus@lemmy.world on 19 Dec 04:54 next collapse

.cafe is the only major one that I know is defederated with all 3.

lemmy.cafe/instances

AwesomeLowlander@sh.itjust.works on 19 Dec 05:00 next collapse

Thanks!

catloaf@lemm.ee on 19 Dec 05:27 next collapse

I have noticed a lot of accounts from that instance being quickly created and banned. I don’t know if they’re trolls or spambots, but it seems like they don’t have very good control over who creates an account there.

misk@sopuli.xyz on 19 Dec 06:34 collapse

It doesn’t block porn instances though. I’d argue that because of this sopuli.xyz might be better choice even if it doesn’t block lemmy.ml.

AwesomeLowlander@sh.itjust.works on 19 Dec 06:55 collapse

Thank you for deciding my criteria for me 🙄

misk@sopuli.xyz on 19 Dec 06:58 collapse

Title: „Which reasonably sized instance to recommend newcomers?”

Criteria: „I have no interest in trying to persuade my friends to create an acc and set up instance blocks before diving in”

OP: „but what about me”

AwesomeLowlander@sh.itjust.works on 19 Dec 07:00 collapse

Yes, let’s just ignore the entire text body? I know there’s a joke about never reading the article, but this is a level above that.

misk@sopuli.xyz on 19 Dec 07:04 collapse

I won’t argue that I know what was your intention when asking the question but you definitely didn’t phrase it as criteria for you specifically but rather newcomers in general.

AwesomeLowlander@sh.itjust.works on 19 Dec 07:08 collapse

My post started with ‘Criteria: I’m looking for instances that are defed’ with the Big 3 tankies’, which you conveniently left out of your quote. That direct statement was not clearly phrased enough?

misk@sopuli.xyz on 19 Dec 07:11 collapse

It’s very clearly phrased. I’m saying that if you want a newcomer instance then defederating porn instances is more important than instance that doesn’t really go out of its way to interfere with other communities. Sopuli is actually one of the first instances to block Hexbear outright when other big instance admins hesitated to.

AwesomeLowlander@sh.itjust.works on 19 Dec 07:21 collapse

I want a instance that I’m comfortable recommending to my crowd. I listed the criteria that I needed for my specific group of friends, and porn is not something that is an issue here. Maybe as a secondary criteria, but that’s a distant second.

[.ml] doesn’t really go out of its way to interfere with other communities

Yes, but I’m not willing or comfortable recommending anything that’s got a bunch of .ml comms on the front page.

misk@sopuli.xyz on 19 Dec 07:40 collapse

I don’t have problem with porn either but it’s just not convenient. If your instance doesn’t block porn instances then your All page will be flooded with junk and you’ll have to painstakingly go through blocking them yourself. It’s easier to have a separate account for porn if you want to use Lemmy that way.

ComradeMiao@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 19 Dec 05:19 next collapse

Btw you can block instances in your settings. Also I would argue lemmy.ml is not as “tankie” as the other two.

AwesomeLowlander@sh.itjust.works on 19 Dec 05:24 next collapse

I have no interest in trying to persuade my friends to create an acc and set up instance blocks before diving in

lemmy.ml is not as tankie, but that bar is the height of my little toe.

maniel@sopuli.xyz on 19 Dec 05:27 collapse

Yeah it’s quite less tankie than the other two, but you can still be banned and/or have your content deleted for criticizing communism

ComradeMiao@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 19 Dec 05:41 next collapse

Didn’t know that!

nimpnin@sopuli.xyz on 19 Dec 06:27 collapse

Ok? Why does that matter if you’re not on their server

maniel@sopuli.xyz on 19 Dec 06:38 collapse

it doesn’t matter at all if you don’t post/comment on communities hosted there

nimpnin@sopuli.xyz on 19 Dec 06:52 collapse

Even if you do, the worst thing that can happen is them banning you on a bunch of their communities

maniel@sopuli.xyz on 19 Dec 07:13 collapse

Yeah, that was my point

nimpnin@sopuli.xyz on 19 Dec 07:58 collapse

I mean you can post and comment on the programmer humor community pretty long before stumbling on the topic of communism. But yeah I don’t think we disagree here

independantiste@sh.itjust.works on 19 Dec 05:25 next collapse

Lemmy.world and sh.itjust.works are both really good. IIRC .world is hosted in Germany and sh.ithust.works in Canada east coast

AwesomeLowlander@sh.itjust.works on 19 Dec 05:28 collapse

You do realise I’m on SJW? And neither of your recs is relevant to the criteria I stated.

saltesc@lemmy.world on 19 Dec 06:30 collapse

Oooh. You’d fit right in at .ml

IDKWhatUsernametoPutHereLolol@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 19 Dec 05:31 next collapse

defed.xyz to check?

AwesomeLowlander@sh.itjust.works on 19 Dec 05:37 collapse

Oh that’s handy

IDKWhatUsernametoPutHereLolol@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 19 Dec 06:28 collapse

I think I found the best one:

infosec.pub

has 4186 total users and 335 active users

seems more active than the .cafe that the other user suggested

Good luck with converting more people to join Lemmy!

saltesc@lemmy.world on 19 Dec 06:32 next collapse

<img alt="" src="https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/f14a35ce-5976-466e-b5b3-0648a5ce2e29.png">

Should be the default setting.

Blaze@feddit.org on 19 Dec 07:52 next collapse

@OpenStars@discuss.online FYI

M33@lemmy.sdf.org on 19 Dec 08:21 next collapse

Feeling good on lemmy.sdf.org

DieserTypMatthias@lemmy.ml on 19 Dec 09:04 collapse

lemmy.ml or lemmy.world.

AwesomeLowlander@sh.itjust.works on 19 Dec 09:16 next collapse

I suppose lemmy.ml technically isn’t federated with .ml…

Blaze@feddit.org on 19 Dec 09:17 collapse