from Anarchotron666@lemmy.world to fediverse@lemmy.world on 18 Apr 11:37
https://lemmy.world/post/28390386
So I’ve tried Mastodon, Pixelfed and didn’t like them. Mastodon is nice if you wanna ”tweet”, but that’s not for me. Pixelfed was dead.
I quit Meta because of tech bro fascism, and hated Twitter even before it was X because, let’s face it - nobody has ever changed their opinion on anything because of a Twitter conversation (I know I’m exaggerating, to get my point across). I was in Reddit for a few weeks, and the conversations there seem mostly friendly and constructive, but I decided I don’t want to have anything to do with social media corporations. Besides, I noticed I could scroll endlessly. And that’s not good for me.
Lemmy seems nice. There are still some topics I’m interested in that don’t have active communities, and I’m still learning on how to have my feed from multiple instances. But still, this is the way to go for me.
Against algorithms, against fascism, for free internet. Thanks for coming to my boring Ted talk and have a nice day.
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I’m hoping Lemmy grows more so that the niche communities (that were still relatively active on reddit, even for their neichness) can start to have regular threads going.
What I’d also like to see is posts that I can spend 5-10 minutes in because they have more comments than the ~5 we have now.
I just try to actively contribute. Especially when I’m debating whether I want to or not.
I don’t really enjoy posting or taking pictures, but I’ve been to around 11 countries and have slowly been uploading to Pixelfed just to contribute to the community.
Pixelfed is the one I need to learn to use, I never did Instagram so never know what images to post, or who I’m bothered about following erc.
we need more artists on pixelfed. the insta artists are on the one side extremely exploited by meta but on the other side theres so much that do it for their small artist bag…
idk clout is weird… how would one solve that with no revenue, maybe like personal sponsors based on reach will remain? idk
There are a lot of artists on pixelfed, but lack of an algorithm makes finding them very difficult
yeah we need eu to help us get fediverse goin with european servers and more ethical algorithms for such platforms that rely on it
or how else are you navigating pixelfed to find the good stuff… its really frustrating to stare at low quality posts and be somewhat stuck with those… maybe theres other reasons in UX also contributing to this frustration
Post images you like and/or find meaningful to you.
Took a good picture? Post it.
Took a bad picture, but it’s of your cat? Post it anyway.
There is no algorithm so you upload whatever you want
I’m just not sure what to upload. I seldomly uploaded photos on Facebook, before I came off it, and that’s with friends and family. Does Joe public want to see what I’ve been doing?
Maybe I’m not the right audience for pixelfed
The biggest issue of community growth is the lack priority in search engines. If you ask a question on lemmy, stackoverflow, and reddit at the same time, you will get the two latter choices first even if the lemmy post has a better answer.
Either lemmy is not prioritized because of the age of the domain, or less visitors, but I think it’s purposely done. There are usually no ads on lemmy. Google prioritizes sites that use their products.
I think, as well as the issues you mention, another issue might possibly be duplication. Historically, search engines penalise duplicated content, even across different domains and federation kind of bakes that in.
That’s a great point.
Search engines should fix this for federated websites if they still want the best search results.
For a solution now, I wonder if a 307 (Temporary Redirect) status code, redirecting to the original instance post, could work for search crawlers.
Or maybe using the canonical URL meta tag? I don’t know if it works across different domains.
I really wish more people had taken on the “Community Ambassador” work that I’ve done for fediverser.network. It could be really helpful in creating a focal point for everyone that wanted to help the migration of people interested in a specific niche.
Where can I read more about this? I’m not getting far with the link 🫤
There were more things that I had planned, such as the ability to do one-click repost of interesting links, but I didn’t get to it because that would mean effectively that I would have to turn the fediverser site into a an alternative Lemmy frontend.
Yeah, every time I see people saying that they like the amount of users now just makes me think “hmmm must be nice that all of your particular niches and tastes are accounted for”. It’s pretty silly to be so anti growth for this place anyway. Even on Reddit, you literally have a choice to take part in the bigger ‘default’ subs or find a smaller one if that suits you. And I like choice.
This place still has a long way to go IMO. I’m starting to resort to lurking chat / ask style communities more just for something to do around here and even there, it’s not quite as engaging or active as it should be. As a humble user, sometimes I don’t have something particular in mind that I want to see. Sometimes I just want to bed rot and scroll and read people’s stories and discussions, maybe give my two cents if I feel so inclined. And there isn’t really that here yet because once you’ve checked AskLemmy or whatever, you’ve already seen 90% of the content for the next week.
Some platforms are dead but we can change that. If more people post on a “dead” platform it will get alive. I also feel that some communities are missing but we can also change that. If you scroll endlessly then maybe try to be on maybe just some social media platforms. I really like Lemmy and hope you will also like it in the future.
Hello! and welcome :D
There’s tons of great communities and instances. I got a pretty big list, but:
Communities WARNING: b i g
### Memes - !funny@sh.itjust.works - !memes@sopuli.xyz - !programmer_humor@programming.dev - !onehundredninetysix@lemmy.blahaj.zone - !historymemes@lemmy.world - !youcantparktheremate@feddit.uk ### Software - !opensource@programming.dev - !privacy@lemmy.dbzer0.com - !piracy@lemmy.dbzer0.com - !selfhosted@lemmy.world / !selfhosting@slrpnk.net ### Politics - !anarchism@lemmy.dbzer0.com / !anarchism@slrpnk.net - !world@lemmy.world / !world@quokk.au / !globalnews@lemmy.zip ### Casual - !actual_discussion@lemmy.ca - !asklemmy@lemmy.world - !casualconversation@lemm.ee - !askUSA@discuss.online - !casualuk@feddit.uk - !dullsters@dullsters.net ### Knowledge - !dataisbeautiful@lemmy.ml - !documentaries@lemmy.cafe - !math@lemmy.world - !til@lemmy.world - !vexillology@lemmy.world - !wikipedia@lemmy.world ### History - !ancientcoins@lemmy.world - !ancienthistory@slrpnk.net - !askhistorians@lemmy.world
- !historyartifacts@lemmy.world - !historicalpropaganda@lemmy.blahaj.zone - !history@lemmy.world - !historyporn@lemmy.world - !historyruins@lemmy.world - !historyillustrations@lemmy.world ### Animals - !superbowl@lemmy.world - !bats@lemmy.world - !catposting@lemmy.blahaj.zone - !cat@lemmy.world - - !catsstandingup@lemmy.world
- !opossums@lemmy.world - !scrungycats@lemmy.world ### Art - !artporn@lemm.ee - !astrophotography@lemmy.world - !desire_paths@sh.itjust.works - !fakehistoryporn@lemmy.world - !imaginary@reddthat.com - !imadethis@lemm.ee - !inhabitedbeauty@lemmy.world - !nocontextpics@lemmy.world - !gameart@sopuli.xyz - !wallpapers@lemmy.ca
lemmy.ca/post/40160493
PS: Since you’re anarchist [i assume?] check out slrpnk.net and lemmy.dbzer0.com
Glad to have you here :p
!dataisbeautiful@mander.xyz
Also, why not point to the pinned post of !communitypromo@lemmy.ca ?
I just took it from fedibridge. I didn’t know about that community’s post
Thanks! Subscribed to some communities. Can I somehow subscribe to the whole instances?
Np :) Nope, you can’t. Probably shouldn’t either, they have tons of communities each
Yes Lemmy communities are nice but you will notice quickly that there are part you may want to avoid. So each communities, even if they may have the same name offer a different experience. It's all up to the mod team 😅
Btw, there are other software part of the forumverse as Mbin, NodeBB and PieFed that offer a slightly different experience and UI too
Welcome and enjoy :)
How did you find out about Lemmy out of interest?
From Reddit.
lol, as one does
Given all you have tried the only thing more I could say is trust cafe by the wikipedia guy. Unfortunately its not federated but it does have this neat thing where you can rate everything. Its basically like nuanced subscribe and block. You rate things between zero and 100 and I think zero would effictively be the same as blocking (which you can still do) and 100 would be the same as subscribing (which you can still do). Everything by default starts at a rating of 50. So its like you can be. mmmm. I like this guys post I will move him to 60. Or this guy seems a bit annoying I will drop him to 40 for now. Then over time the blocks and subscribes come out naturally.
Welcome to Lemmy, here are a few pointers to help you settle in
Pixelfed has more than 100,000 active users, about 5 times what it was 6 months ago, so I wouldn’t really call it dead. And with the fediverse, pixelfed and mastodon can talk to each other, so even on less active platforms you can connect with millions of other people. Most of the accounts I follow on pixelfed are from mastodon.
20k MAU can feel pretty dead, even 100k can if none of them are sharing things you’re interested in.
what are you interested in finding that you aren't? build it, put it up, ask questions. We're all here on the frontier building what we want.
79 millions pictures , i don’t undetstand how you can’t find any content that is interesting
One of the big issues that I personally had with Pixelfed is that content discovery is kind of difficult on the platform. Sure, there’s probably some pictures out there of the obscure shit I’m into. However, all I ever found on pixelfed was like landscape/nature photography and a little bit of porn
I see all type of contents drawing, vinyl, monuments etc
Yeah and none of those are my niche. Not to mention, content discovery is still difficult even if you personally see things you’re interested in lol
Maybe the problem is that your interests are so limited and not the lack of diversity of content. Or you just want to be fed content by algorithms and top content pages. I discover content that interest me daily. You reminds me of people saying it’s hard to didcover music on bandcamp although there is like 5 ways to find music on bandcamp
Wow. Not even an ad hominem, literally just blind judgement. You have no idea what interests me, and no way to tell how I have interacted with Pixelfed. You have no concept of the idea that some people are just not into the things you enjoy.
Do you have any idea just how much content is out there in the world? You could browse through a petabyte of data and it could all be boring drivel to you because there are zettabytes of data out there in the internet. Some of it is bound to bore any random individual. That doesn’t preclude me from enjoying the entire rest of the internet.
You remind me of people in red hats.
I have that concept. I always like when people have their own taste in anything and try to diversify their interests even in things I don’t like.
And you feel like you portrayed that ideology by belittling me for not being interested in Pixelfed?
I believe that there is enough diversity of content in pixelfed although it can always be better so yes i believe i portrayed this ideology. It’s still hard to me to believe that anybody with diverse interests to not find anything interesting.
Discovery in Pixelfed fed is absolute and utter shit, though. It doesn’t matter if it’s there if you can’t find it…and mostly you can’t find it.
Unfortunately exactly my experience :( And nobody saw (or I guess liked/interacted with) my posts either, so it felt pointless.
No it’s not you just used to be fed content by algorithmsbor just follow populat content
If you want for something here, it's a new place, make it. We're all over here building a new way to do this thing, and everyone's input is important. What do you want to see, that you haven't found on Fedi?
Actually since I quit Insta etc. I’ve been pretty happy about leaving social media. Tried Bluesky also, but like Mastodon, the Twitter-kind of social media is not for me. Reddit felt helpful and people seemed nice. Right now I don’t feel like I need anything new. I hope Lemmy will be enough for me. I’m also trying to scroll my phone less.
I hear you on the scroll less. Time limits help me to not be obsessively scrolling. Emphasizing quality over quantity also helps. Cheers!
Cheers!
For me it’s mostly the regional subs I had in reddit, those aren’t here. And I also wanted Lemmy to some communities like which are relevant to my studies and work
smae! there wasn't a community for my town, so I made one. Also I'm really into photobiomodulation, made a community, but it was on kbin which frittered away, so now I have to remake it. We're building a whole new thing, new culture, new communities. No better time for it, with all the chaos, let's make a shiny new garden here, tend it, watch it grow.
Yeah. But I can’t create communities now because my account is new so I gotta wait
Y’all are making communities for town tho? Man, i can’t even find an active community of my country 😂
Let's see what can be done. Ape together strong!
I’ve already settled on making lemmy my new home a long while ago. I like it here and there is more than enough engagement.
What i can’t really find an alternative for is discord… it’s going through the “enshittification fascism techbro” phase.
I tried matrix but honestly it sucks, Its so incredibly buggy it’s barely even usable. I’m still willing to give it a try since it seems very promising but the instability is a big downside.
What exactly do you need from a Discord replacement?
There’s a LOT of options, with varying features so if you don’t need certain things it gets a lot easier to suggest what might work.
I keep a lot of personal notes in discord like it’s a journal. Is that now a bad idea? I’ve loved discord for years but what’s happening on Reddit currently scared me off that platform already, just like Xitter
Matrix and Xmpp are good for that sort of thing. Maybe there’s a way to export your notes.
I manage a community on discord and see it going down the aggressive monetization route day by day. Also looked at Matrix, but the basic tools to support my community just aren’t there. I’m hoping the next two or so years produces an alternative rich chat/voice/video platform.
The problem with Matrix to me is that it is simply too unstable. I can open it up on any device and half the messages won’t load or are corrupted. Media won’t show at all. In contrast Lemmy has been super reliable and “just works”, so going from reddit to lemmy was no problem at all. And the communities are great too.
I just want working voice chat and group chats.
The entire streaming i don’t really care about. There are other apps for that.
But yeah as it is I’m probably better off using discord until the enshittification is so bad no one wants to use it anymore.
I may sound old but I don't get what's peculiar about discord. From the little I know is like a forum? with calls&messaging functionality.
Well… they went the enshittification route and they keep on censoring more and more. One of their latest stunts is that they’re going to implent an age check by making a video of you.
Yeah sorry but that is very privacy invasive. I’m all for trying to catch predators and shit but I’m not giving away my privacy for it.
As an added bonus they’re more and more ads so they can link all that juicy data you send them to a profile.
Lemmy is just left wing politics in an echo chamber
I guess you’re getting downvoted by those offended. It absolutely is.
Note: I am left, communist in fact, but the way political topics are discussed is a clear doomer circlejerk. I’d love to at least see more variety over “Trump is stupid, Elon is mad, senators are bootlickers, death to Nazis, we’re all gonna die”. Like, yeah, we got it and we know it. What next? Any political action, maybe?
Believe it or not, but I also am a leftist. Social democrat.
I say a lot of bad stuff though. Like: old people that did not have kids, should have less pension and use the money they have been saving up by not having kids.
This is seen as insane, but… old people are the wealthiest class in most societies.
Yes there are exceptions and these people need help. High minimum pension for sure. They need a decent life.
But why would I want someone who didn’t even have a kid to replace themselves as productive entity to gain a fantastic passive income on top of their already passive income generating assets?
a compromise would be something as simple as: retired person above age 65 gets +amount of euros per working child in insert home country.
It would incentivise having kids.
The reaction I get usually is that it’s inhumane, that people are seen as production houses only, that people don’t wanna be born… A lot of doomer stuff to be honest.
It would be fun if there’s a place where you can only deny an idea if you can replace it with your own solution to the issue. In this case “aging population” (popular issue in Belgium right now)
I fail to see advantages over the expansion of direct support for families with kids.
If such families would be adequately supported, parents wouldn’t be so financially disadvantaged and this would automatically resolve the issue of assets as well.
Paying it as part of pensions on the condition of children working in the home country makes people’s finances directly reliant on the actions of independent actors (their adult children) and punishes people who, for example, cannot have children in the first place due to medical reasons, lack of a partner, etc. It also doesn’t bring financial support when it’s needed the most.
And relying on asset accumulation and personal investments as a source of pension funding is quite odd to me to begin with, as salaries don’t always reflect the good done for society (for example, public sector work is often paid more poorly, despite bringing maximum value for the state), and also because personal investments cannot be done with the same precision, competence and risk management as the funds do (and even if you invest in funds, they take a cut). I believe asset accumulation should be minimized in favor of public support nets (including decent pensions and good living conditions for everyone).
These families already are adequately supported. We need to find a way to guide people into the actions we want them to do.
Like, they want me to stop using the car to work. Okay, they allow everyone at my hospital to use their taxes to pay for a commuting e bike. It’s a financial incentive. (Don’t worry I’m not a healthcare worker, just administration, I am not the right person to work with people in need).
Indeed there are exceptions and therefore exemptions. If a medical examination says that it’s difficult for you or your partner to have children, then they’d be exempted of any punishment.
I don’t think it’s psychologically a smart move to punish not having kids, but to reward having kids. That’s why I say “extra pension”. (By behind closed doors reducing pensions in general first, but they don’t know that).
Helping people that can’t have kids… We could allocate resources to them to help them adopt a child. Something like that. Once again, psychologically it would help them accept this. People give them the option that nature didn’t provide them.
We’re competing against the funds actually. I own ETFs that tracks the Stoxx 600. It has a yearly expense of 0,07% while bank funds would take like 2% or whatever.
Personally I’m not even thinking about my pension, cannot know what will happen in 37 years so I’m definitely taking it into my two own hands to accumulate assets.
Now, I understand why a pension is desirable. It’s a safety net. And I agree with that. High minimum pension for anyone who is unable to work due to old age. Just like for people who can’t work for other reasons.
But as Belgian, I know a lot of people that try and take advantage of our social safety nets. For a lot of people it’s not because they need it, but view it as an extra passive income while doing nothing.
That’s damaging to the social democrats. We need to get rid of the abuse, the corruption. We need to motivate people to do effort and reward that. And we have. Minimum wage in Belgium is quite high. Income inequality is 0,26 gini. Median net wealth is 250k euros.
Motivating people to have kids is also a necessity. To live more together in the same household. To use fewer resources. Be economically sustainable in the long term.
People are scared in Belgium, everyone is retiring. We’ve been accepting a lot of immigrants to help us out with this. Luckily, second generation immigrants are tremendously helpful.
To have a meaningful social net, we do need a good amount of people that can work. That can be parents.
We need to motivate people. And everyone that really cannot help society with this, they are exempted of course.
My friend her parents never worked a day in their lives. It’s absolutely normal. Her dad’s disabled and her mom takes care of him.
But another guy “didn’t work for 10 years cuz his knees hurt” while he randomly showed up at our hospital working, magically, when he’d lose his free passive income. He’s doing a desk job. Like everyone else.
In my eyes, being adequately supported means not having any financial difference between having vs not having children. If that would be the case, there wouldn’t be a financial incentive to not have them.
If we go above that (incentivise parenting even more), it’s just throwing money at the problem in hopes it will go away. If someone will only have kids if they’ll be rewarded on top of having extra expenses covered, they are basically parenting for money and this won’t end well.
As per taking advantage of the social system - the more people overclaim something, the better the regulations become. There could be a certain ceiling on the types of support that could be taken at the same time, for example. As per unemployed folks living on subsidies - unless they have a valid reason they can’t work (and there are those), they should get mandatory public employment if they stay in the unemployed status for a while - one that would respect their disabilities and limitations, if there are any, of course.
I’m literally going to financially reward my wife for taking time off work in order to take care of our kid.
Parenting is labour. When you’re parenting, you can’t be doing a different job.
My wife’s parents in Indonesia don’t have a pension much. It’s barely anything. Her mom just gets money from my wife and her 2 sisters.
That’s how it used to be for a long time, pension is relatively new.
So in the vast majority of history, parents always were financially rewarded for having children.
Median age in Indonesia is 30, while in Belgium it’s 42. While we’re far wealthier in resources. People just stopped having children because it wasn’t necessary anymore.
We can’t act like this isn’t a problem, unless the people that willingly caused the aging population issue take full responsibility and go through hardships in order to help the society battle a period of low work force.
That’s you, but it should be on the state level so that every parent is given everything to make parenthood go smooth.
People got used to comfort and are not willing to sacrifice their standards of living for having children, especially through a recession. Make them feel secure about their present and future - and birth rates will grow.
Aight, I agree it’s better to give positive help at one group instead of trying to punish the other.
Then why do we keep arguing with each other?
Liberals Vs tankies
Leftist infighting is what happens here.
Hardly an echo chamber, then. Echos don’t argue, they just repeat the same stuff back.
Tankies go to .ml while liberals go to the other spaces. You don’t really interact with eachother, there’s several types of leftists etc.
I’m banned on several ml’s and several liberal’s.
They do not like people to talk back.
They moderate the places so that it works as an echo chamber. Mainly for leftists. Not many right wing people are coming towards Lemmy.
It’s pretty silly, Lemmy is at one hand designed so that everyone can see eachother’s content and opinions.
But at the other side, the spaces are moderated so that only their own opinions are allowed.
So there’s a lot of polarisation instead of compromise.
Then you end up with extremists having power that wrecks havoc.
Compromise is the enemy of extremists. They love it that we separate ourselves so easily.
I’m constantly arguing with liberals, the whole reason I’m on .ml and not one of the defederated instances is because I want to talk to y’all instead of stay in an echo chamber of people that agree with me.
Also liberals aren’t leftists 😘
Aight, I’m a social democrat. Am I a leftist?
Do you want to abolish capitalism? Not just reform it, but completely abolish it.
That’s the bare minimum.
Your ideology doesn’t have any allies then. It’s used in Cuba and in North Korea. That’s all.
In Cuba, they are losing ground because the people don’t want the government to have a monopoly on labour.
North Korea is kim’s paradise
Your only hope is to brand china communist. But are they?
“The private sector already accounts for over 60% of GDP, 70% of technological innovation, and, more potently, employs over 80% of the workforce across the country’s urban cities.”
Chinese capitalists own majority stakes everywhere in the world. They control the cobalt in Congo for example.
In both Cuba and the DPRK they’ve been under a brutal siege war from the United States since the revolution, don’t pretend like they struggle for no reason. There are certainly problems, but they can be laid firmly at the feet of the US empire and its proxies.
But the US won’t be around forever and BRICS is opening the world economy to them. They endured a near century of humiliation and its finally coming to an end, I’m excited to see how they develop without a US boot on their necks! Aren’t you?
As for China, I was skeptical about the Dengist reforms. It’s like you said, they boosted private sector development and investment. The created billionaires. They allowed for heightened exploitation of workers. They suppressed Maoists.
They proved politics are still in command with Zero COVID, though. Ever since China’s heroic pandemic response I am optimistic that the private sector is subordinate. They’re willing and able to tell their billionaires “no” and force them to obey.
See, the purpose of the Dengist reforms was to develop China’s economy as fast as possible while avoiding Western retaliation, like what happens to every other communist country that becomes the subject of endless siege and proxy warfare, and it worked. Unlike under capitalism where the anarchy of the market dictates production, China has its productive capacity firmly under the control of the government. They still issue marching orders to the private sector and they centrally plan their development.
China is now a world leader in technological innovation and is critical to the global supply chain as a key node of production. As much as Trump wants to do a trade war he’s more likely to hurt the US than to actually hurt China. China is still dominated by the capitalist mode of production, like you said, but since the Party remains in command they’ll be able to abolish the market entirely without fear of Western retaliation. Capitalism is just a stage of development, after all.
Also, don’t ignore Vietnam. They have been on a similar trajectory as China, developing their economy and integrating themselves into the supply chain, and now they’re growing closer with China with every new idiot tariff imposed by Trump.
I find that “”“social democrats”“” are just pessimists. You think revolution never works and communism always fails, and so you retreat into reformism and liberalism. I still have revolutionary optimism, though, which means I don’t even need to win this argument. I’m certain that you’ll see that I’m right soon enough. ☺️
So you agree that capitalism is the best way to develop a country. So, capitalism is good? It relocates everytime to a poorer country. Developing that country.
At the end, the whole world will be developed. I’m not an anarchist, so I’m quite fond of governments creating stability in their region. (Not a revolutionary indeed).
North Korea and Cuba joining globalist trade is fine by me. Cuba already sends out their doctors abroad.
Cuba trades a lot with Spain and China.
Problem though. Their doctors would earn more money in other Latin American countries. Which they often do. They emigrate to one of those countries and then have their family live a luxurious life in Havana.
This is because in those other countries, even though same level of wealth, they are self employed as doctors. They get the entire fruits of their labour :)
Competition is very important. Just like you don’t want Elon musk to be a monopolist, you don’t want a government to be a monopolist either. Competition is necessary.
I don’t know much about Vietnam, so I didn’t talk about them. Their language makes me go insane not gonna lie 🥲
I did watch documentaries about Cuba though, so talking a bit more about that.
I’m not a fan of revolutions. Look at Libya and Syria. Revolutions aren’t good.
If you want to do a revolution, you better accept to live a full generation in pure poverty in the hope that your children will have it better.
Then compare it to a place that has been having stability in the same period.
The place with stability will be stronger on the global scene most likely. Such as Switzerland Vs the rest of Europe that were involved in world war 2.
Stability means growth.
You view me as a pessimist and I view you as a pessimist. You see no other way out than revolution.
I can assure you, in my day to day life I am the optimist. My wife’s rather pessimistic aha.
Like when trump crashed the market and I pumped it full. My wife was like “you’re having a baby, you need to be careful”.
Right now the stocks look green af.
I’m saying I’mma take a 100k euros mortgage.
She’s like “we’re having a baby, can you even afford that?”
Tsk tsk tsk 🌝
Edit: let’s ask my best buddy the cat from mistral AI 😤
Estimating the percentage of revolutions that bring prosperity is challenging due to the varied nature of revolutions and their outcomes. However, based on historical observations, it’s clear that while some revolutions have led to significant improvements in economic and political conditions, many others have resulted in instability, conflict, or the rise of new repressive regimes.
Factors that influence the success of a revolution in bringing prosperity include:
Given these factors, a rough estimate might be that a minority of revolutions—perhaps around 20-30%—lead to sustained economic prosperity and political stability. This estimate is speculative and based on the general understanding that successful revolutions are relatively rare and often face significant challenges in achieving their goals.
Okay…
Leadership? You can do that, I believe in you.
Popular support. No, you simply are a minority.
Nobody in Europe wants a revolution. Guess what the last revolution was, it was to not be communist 😬
International support. You can get China’s support
You should read How Europe Underdeveloped Africa, capitalism didn’t help them at all. They were intentionally deprived of industrial and intellectual property that would allow them to build up their own means of production – underdeveloped by capitalism — and intentionally kept at a lower stage of development to superexploit the workers and extract superprofits.
Flag independence and so-called decolonization didn’t mean freedom to develop either, now under neocolonialism the same underdevelopment takes place. Libya and Syria are just more examples of the same neocolonial agenda, to underdevelop nations and force them to be subservient to the imperial core. Those weren’t revolutions, they were Western dirty wars: coup the government, pour in weapons to fuel whatever terrorist groups are willing to work with the West, sanction the people to make the economy scream, etc. etc.
So, no, capitalism wasn’t the best way to develop any of those countries.
The reason China needed to use capitalism to develop was solely to fool the West into doing business. There’s a saying attributed to Lenin; “The Capitalists will sell us the rope with which we will hang them.” That’s all China has done. Not only did the capitalists sell them the rope, the capitalists also sold them the rope factories and outsourced every step of rope production.
China was never capitalist. They’re communists wearing the flayed skin of capitalism to trick it into lowering its guard.
Capitalism also isn’t developing the imperial core anymore. We have reached a stage of deindustrialization, where now instead of building up infrastructure and production capacity we’re letting capital strip the wiring from the walls to maximize cost cutting without actually developing anything. There is some development that still happens thanks to government grants and public institutions, but now neoliberalism is cutting those too to “save money”. Thanks to rampant privatization and austerity everything is worse.
And of course there’s no popular support for a communist revolution here in the West, this is the imperial core. We grew fat and rich off of the superprofits from imperialism, revolution would mean a redistribution of wealth from the imperial core to the periphery. That means Europe and Canada and the US will have to pay repairations for what they have done to the world. I don’t expect that to be popular here!
Oh yeah, after Congo got independence from Belgium. Their purchasing power reduced to not even 10% of what it was at 1960 at the time of 1979.
Right now Congo is being “neocolonised” by China. (Majority stake in their cobalt for China’s dominance in electric vehicles)
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South Africa however is a whole different story. They are the most inequal country in the world.
Africa has a median net wealth per adult of 1250 USD. Mean is 8400 USD.
For South Africa this is 5200 USD median and 25000 usd average.
The approach in Congo was a lot more revolutionary while in South Africa it was reformist. In Congo, any Belgian was forcibly deported and many were murdered. In South Africa there are still a lot of descendants from dutchies.
I believe that China’s investment in Congo will be good for Congo, as most investments are.
The Belgian investments were to extract raw resources from the country. But these railroads and trains are still being used today.
Nobody really wants to help Congo unless they get financially rewarded for it. Congo is quite a scary place too, for business. All that instability?
Revolutions = instability = capital flight = poverty
We’ll see what happens. The west developed China. Now it’s China’s turn to develop Africa. About time too, fucking hell, we’re so close to Africa. Become developed so that we can do meaningful trade.
The investments in china have been tremendously rewarding.
You and I view China very different. You might view them as Buddhism and the west as Christian.
But I view Europe as Judaism. America as Christianity and china as islam. 1.0, 2.0 and 3.0
The same thing, just different branding. It’s all capitalism.
Yes, and that was revenge. Countries were punished for winning independence.
Those railroads are just supply lines that ship from resource extraction points to seaports. The railroads don’t connect cities or provide infrastructure for actual people or act as part of the supply chain for internal production. They were built to be purely extractive. That’s not real development, that’s underdevelopment. The railroads ship out cobalt and ground nuts and the people of the DRC are deprived of access for their own civilian or industrial uses.
Colonizers did not develop Africa. This is a lie spread by colonizers to hide their crimes against humanity.
Yeah, because Belgians raped and tortured and murdered so many Congolese people. The sick shit colonizers did in Africa rivals the Nazis.
No no no, China developed itself by fooling the West (into selling them the rope, get it?) because the West never develops anything by choice.
Look, if revolution can be avoided that’s great! Venezuela managed to do it and they’d be doing quite well if it weren’t for imperialist meddling from the US. I’m not saying that revolution is the only option, only that the abolition of capitalism must be the end goal. I say “end goal” because it’s not realistic to just abolish markets and commodity production and wage labor instantly and expect it to work. The abolition of capitalism will take time.
But if your goal is to keep capitalism alive forever you are not a leftist. Deal with it.
Aight but can you also talk about china on Congo and the video I showed you? I’m saying china is just the same as Europe and America.
I find that normal. China is new to having power, their government has a lot of power in their own region. People their opinions are suppressed in china. They have the great firewall of china.
What you are doing here, is not allowed in China. You’d be seen as a traitor and dealt with by the government.
You’re critical of your government. You’re a product of the west.
That’s a specific incident, I don’t think it shows some kind of widespread colonialism from China. This doesn’t compare to Belgium at all, their colonial behavior was well documented and systematic.
As for China’s firewall and their regulation of criticism, they have to protect themselves from propaganda that gets endlessly pumped out by Western billionaires and governments. There’s a material reason for these laws, they aren’t just evil totalitarians that hate freedom.
This sometimes results in people getting caught in the crossfire, and that’s not good, but what else can China do? If they just allow endless Western meddling they’ll have unrest and terrorism as people get radicalized by billionaires, far right factions, and the US State Department.
Nah, you didn’t criticise china enough. Fail.
It’s a country of 1,4 billion people. With a massive controlling government that is powerful enough to bring stability to such a huge amount of people.
Do you know how easy it is to find bad things about any country and any government?
You can always criticise governments. Their one decision will always help a certain amount of people and put another amount of people in a disadvantage.
The world isn’t roses and sunshine.
My advice to you. Become a pragmatist, stop being an ideologist. I stopped trolling with this comment
Yes, their decision helps their government stay stable and in control and it puts Western-backed counter-revolutionaries at a disadvantage. They have to do this or, again, they’re going to have to deal with political violence as people get radicalized by Western governments and billionaires.
I generally agree with China’s firewall, of course I’m not going to criticize it that much. I like it when my enemies are silenced, because I’m not a liberal and I don’t believe my enemies should have a right to speak. 😊
The world isn’t roses and sunshine, after all.
That puts you at a disadvantage though. You live in the west. If we take this approach. You get executed.
Literally, we drag you out of your home in front of your family and put a bullet in your brain.
Why don’t you fear this? Why aren’t you going to china? It’s easy, a plane ticket costs 350 euros for me to Shanghai. You’re western and thus you have enough money most likely, as you’ve been extracting money within the imperial core.
So, immigrating in china should be quite easy.
My boss worked in Beijing and Shanghai, if he can do that, so can you.
Why are you still not within the great firewall of china?
I’m right where I need to be.
Sounds religious
It’s called revolutionary optimism.
When only 20 to 30% of revolutions lead to prosperity. Optimism is definitely a necessity.
Without revolution, things stay the same. Risk death on your feet or live on your knees.
Sometimes you can get lucky and avoid revolution, and we should always strive for those peaceful alternatives, but sometimes there’s no other choice.
You act like we don’t have some of the best lives imaginable. It’s not the 1850s, the industrial phase is long done. Thank your ancestors and enjoy
People are being sent to concentration camps.
In china and USA but not in Europe. Maybe we should have a great firewall of Europe to stop seeing people behave like monkeys
Aight, personally. Every single person I know, has a great life economically.
Median net wealth in Belgium is 250k euros.
Our cost of living is also lower than yours, so… turn that into 350k USD maybe to have an idea of how it feels.
It’s not leftist infighting if one side isn’t leftist.
Liberals are socially leftist. LGBTQ stuff, women empowerment, environment stuff, pro universal healthcare, …
Personally I view american politics as right wingers compared to west Europe, but oh well.
They still are viewed as a hundred million people on this planet that vote for the left side of their country’s politicians.
It’s not that easy with USA. Bernie Sanders is likely the most left wing there. AOC likely the same.
Joe Biden was less left wing, but he still helped people out during the pandemic compared to what republican’s would have done.
Here in Belgium you have more choice. You can choose between anti immigration, regionalists, liberals, Christian centrists, environmentalists, social democrats and Marxists.
Broader choice. Here in Belgium the left wing is considered environmentalists, social democrats and Marxists.
While liberals, although socially left wing, are economically right wing. Basically the party for the small entrepreneurs. The other right wing party is more for the multinationals. While the anti immigration party actually is quite socialist economically, but the same old “own people first” shit. It just so happens that being a conservative in Belgium means being somewhat of a socialist economically.
Pretty funny, there’s not much difference between extreme right and extreme left here. Basically just… is the socialist a racist or not lol
I think In all honesty that we have different notions of what the word leftist means, and I’m not super keen on a discussion on semantics. Personally, I attach a very specific fixed non-relative set of ideals and principles to the word “leftist” (an acknowledgement that capitalism is neither fair nor efficient, a focus on building a state for the proletariat, cooperation over imperialism, etc etc). From your comment I get the sense that you have a more relativist approach. Whether or not someone is a leftist depends (additionally) on the political context in which they operate. In this light, you call Biden, a staunch neoliberal capitalist, a (lesser) leftist in the same breath as calling Belgian Marxists leftists. I am in no position of telling you that you’re using words wrong any more than you are in the position of telling me I’m using words wrong.
But there are some things you mentioned that I do think are worth discussing, under the assumption that we would both label the mainstream part of the democratic party as liberals. Because they do not support the policies you would label as socially leftist. The last time universal health care was part of a mainstream candidate’s campaign was Obama’s first campaign (17 years ago), and what we ended up with was essentially a handout to insurance companies, a very far cry from UH. No major mainstream candidate since even mentions it.
Then there’s the support for LGBTQ rights. I would like to focus on the T part first. Not only was there no countermessaging from the democrats to Trump’s virulent anti-trans rhetoric; after the race was lost, the MSNBC talking heads and major democrat campaign strategists were on national television claiming that part of the reason Harris lost was that she wasn’t tough enough on trans people. The transgender support by democrats is skin deep, and ready to be dropped when it becomes politically inconvenient. If the transgender folks are that easy to drop, don’t doubt the other letters won’t drop either. To finish off this section I’ll leave you with a nice Biden quote from 2006: “marriage is between a man and a woman and states must respect that”
Another policy you mention is environmentalism. I won’t be verbose. Big part of Harris’ campaign was that she was more pro-fracking than Trump.
Next women’s rights. Four years of Biden, nothing done to fix Roe v Wade. All these words about supporting women’s rights and here we still are with 12 year olds carrying their rapist’s babies to term. Actually, we don’t even get words, there’s a nice website which kept track of whether the Biden admin used the term ‘abortion’ in a press release (they did, once, more than a year in).
I’m going to take some liberty into what else you might consider socially leftist positions, namely a pro-immigration stance, and an anti-war stance.
War first. You can go back to the Senate and congress voting records. Democrats consistently vote in favor of bombing the middle east. The Biden administration pumped billions into the Palestinian genocide. During the Harris campaign, Waltz said that the expansion of Israel was crucial to the success of America. During the recent Signal gaffe from the Trump administration where a group chat leaked where they were planning to bomb Yemeni schools and hospitals, democrats were outraged not by the fact that the US would be bombing civilians, but rather about the fact that it leaked.
Immigration next. The kids in cages at the border that we were all (rightly) upset about during the Trump admin? Not only did the Biden admin do nothing whatsoever about this, the number actually increased during his presidency. The messaging from the conservatives is simple: the immigrants come in, they’re criminals, they take our jobs, and we need to do something about this. This is of course false, if you look at the actual statistics, undocumented immigrants commit fewer crimes per capita than citizens, and the addition of immigrants to the workforce (and to the market as consumers) is actually a boon to the economy. Did the Harris campaign do any countermessaging on this, citing the statistics, and looking at reality? No. A big part of her campaign is that her border policies would be tough, and that she was tough on crime.
I’ve taken the US as an example, but the same pattern applies in Europe, at least in the countries I’m most familiar with (Germany and the Netherlands).
Finally, you mention that the extreme right wing is similar to the extreme left wing in Belgium, and that conservatives are left wing on an economic level. I can’t speak much for Belgian politics. I went to the Wikipedia pages of the leftmost and rightmost parties I’m aware of (PvdA and Vlaams Belang) and all I can say is that I don’t see it. I see stark differences on policies on a social level (one being incredibly pro multi-cultural) and on an
Thanks for the detailed report, bout USA my only information is social media which is limited. I did see a rise in bottom 50%'s wealth % during Biden’s term. But the income gini is still 0,42 so I suppose that’s meaningless.
About 20% of the Flemish people voted for Vlaams belang, they are in general the less educated folks.
That’s why Vlaams belang has to portray themselves as “for the man”. Bring back industry to Belgium, promote manual labour jobs for Belgians.
It’s just a stunt, because they (together with the Marxists) are banished from being in the government. They always are in opposition. The other parties long ago agreed to that.
Vlaams belang is the 2nd largest party now, but in opposition. Luckily. The only issue is that they can always complain about anything that went wrong and promise heaven if people vote for them. Then when shove comes to push “oops, sorry guys we can’t help, we wish we could, but we’re in opposition”. They’ve never actually had to prove themselves capable leaders. They get paid well though.
Let’s see. Belgium has 0,26 gini income inequality. (EU 0,29). We have great hospitals. Uz Leuven and UZ Gent being world top class hospitals. When my wife will give birth, it will cost us 300 euros. Median income in the country is 3800 euros gross. Which comes to about 2600 euros net.
Schooling is tax paid. There are like no private schools here because who would want to fund that (there’s one in Brussels, would cost 500k euros to have your kid schooled there till age 18, while public schools get funding from taxes). Higher eduction costs like 1 month wage to fund a bachelor’s degree tuition wise.
Median net wealth per adult is 250k euros. Puts us alongside Australia, Luxembourg and Iceland.
We have unions, personally I’m with ABVV, which is the socialist variant. They help with certain stuff. Went there when I was unemployed for 3 months.
There’s unemployment benefits for 2 years. Only the first year is good income. Not really necessary to be longer than 1 year imo.
Quite some sick leave. Medical bankruptcy isn’t a thing here. There’s a maximum invoice per household per year. Which is a pretty low sum. Depends on income level too. Can easily be as low as 500 euros per year.
Maternity leave is decent, my wife is on maternity leave starting 1 august until 1 February.
Child benefits exist. My wife will get 250 euros from that every month I think. At birth she gets 1250 euros too. And we get a free stroller and car seat. Quite good quality too.
There’s an issue with the amount of daycares. Just no space. But starting age 3, the kid will just go to school. Which is properly funded.
Public transport… there’s rails everywhere. 80% of trains are for commuting in Europe. Belgium is no exception. I don’t have a car, there’s no need for it.
They are building bike lanes alongside the train rails for car free commutes.
It’s very tax friendly to lease an e bike with your company. It uses the taxes on your end of the year bonus. Basically turns a 1500 euros net bonus into a 4500 euros bonus. Allows people to lease a premium quality e bike for commute and buy it after 3 years for 15% of original value.
There’s always investment in social housing.
We’ve got quite a lot of immigrants. Immigrating is really easy. My wife basically went from Indonesia to Belgium with a tourist EU visum. We married and then she never had to leave. Since I have housing and a job.
Psychologist costs 11 euros per session, psychologist gets 85 euros for it.
Trans people can get sex change surgeries and hormones funded by tax money.
One of the earliest countries to allow gay marriage.
47% of EU electricity was generated with renewables in 2024.
Government funded the purchase of electric cars quite a bit until now. Same with solar panels.
Buying a house costs 3% tax if it’s your only house that you will live in. Otherwise it’s 12%.
There’s a lot of funding to teach immigrants Dutch.
Cleaning is the stereotype job for immigrants that don’t speak Dutch, since that job is funded 2/3rd with tax money. The client pays 10 euros per hour and the cleaner earns 13,64 euros per hour. + Free e bike. Can get this job without speaking Dutch, because there’s just such a high demand.
We have a lot of doctors per capita.
Walkable cities like Ghent, Brussels, Bruges, Antwerp, … All cities are walkable.
High social mobility. A lot can be achieved within 1 generation.
It’s a pretty nice country. But my wife does call it boring as fuck 🤷🏻♂️
Until the second it becomes evident that they might have to stand up for any of that.
Nah, America really spread a lot of information throughout the world on these things. So much even that people got sick of it.
America is all about branding, sure they might not structurally provide a good system for these people, but they do grant them a good brand to use.
The public opinion of these people have mooned quite a bit.
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And you’re eager to jettison them.
Hahahaha, I’m not the islamic state.
Do you have to be?
Meaning, I don’t push gays off a building.
m.youtube.com/watch?v=gr7d1sTDNts
Well, yeah. You have to deny them representation first. You have to build to pushing them off of buildings.
Invite all of IS in your country, they’ll show you that those things really aren’t necessary. You just need people wanting to do it.
Why do you keep trying to pivot to talking about IS?
Not to mention it’s going to be common knowledge in 20 years from now that IS was designed by you know who to fuel Islamophobia.
By Voldemort?
Because I find it amusing that you’re talking about a pro LGBTQ country as if they are IS.
Maybe you should be the one talking about IS if you care about LGBTQ
In Europe we have lots of refugees that are LGBTQ because they’d be suffering great consequences in their home country. Those people aren’t from the US.
Yet.
Then they are welcome, easy to integrate them. They speak a language we speak. Hell, it has never been as easy as now. Thanks to English being spoken by a billion people now.
At least the ones that can make it out in time. And it’s neat how blase you are about it.
It’s never good enough for you, is it
You’re living in a country with 560k USD mean wealth. Which fuels your tax revenue. Through hoarding assets that come from around the world.
And here, you’re just complaining complaining complaining
You’d be a great Belgian
Wanna come here? We tax fund trans surgeries ☺️☺️☺️
Contentment got us trump both times. It’s good enough for you, I’m certain.
Well yes, I made money on trump. But that’s just me
Trump’s great for Europe. Just… bad for you
Btw, you got trump twice because you’re polarised. Half the country hates your guts
Be a big boy, learn to compromise
Yes, the only reason we got trump is because democrats didn’t capitulate enough.
Aye, the solution to polarisation is being even more polarised. Didn’t work the first two times, third time the charm
You would have preferred harris run even further to the right?
Or are you trolling here too?
Oh, so who did you vote for?
Go away, troll.
👀 so you didn’t vote for the liberal and now are stuck with the most extreme republican as a result.
Absolutely hilarious
I voted harris. No liberal was running. Just conservatives.
Go away, troll.
Then why would she need to be more left wing? If she already had the left vote. Then it would be smart of her to go more right wing, right?
Tsk tsk, your country really is all about trump uh. Even a right winger couldn’t seduce them.
How far to the right did you want her to go? How many more genocides would it take? Maybe you would prefer if she campaigned on lopping off children’s hands for not producing enough rubber?
Go away, troll.
Enough to get a majority vote?
Nah I’m fine with trump. I’m not American
I know. Your country has a proud history of being happy with atrocities elsewhere as long as you’re comfortable.
You typify it. Go away troll.
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It’s good that china is taking over the abuse in the 21st century 🌝
Who needs history, when you have the present
Whataboutism. The Gaza genocide wasn’t enough for you.
Do you enjoy watching Chinese business owners man handle African wagies?
Does it fuel your han supremacy desires?
Gaza sucks, we should punish Israel like Russia.
What should happen with chinese man handling Africans? Do you know how Africans are portrayed in china? Or even elsewhere in Asia? My indonesian mother in law literally says the full Spanish word of black when referring to Africans. It’s quite normal there
Have you seen a lot of immigrants from Africa in Asia? I haven’t. Honestly I haven’t seen a single African in Asia the entire time I’ve been there
I get that you want to talk about anything but how your country committed atrocities and how your positions represent a continuation of same, but no.
I am not going to indulge your whataboutism. harris didn’t support the genocide in gaza hard enough for your liking. You’ve spent this entire thread saying she wasn’t far enough to the right for you and I sincerely wonder if trump is far enough to the right for you either.
Now try desperately to steer the conversation to a country you think is worse than yours. Well, congratulations on being second worst to China. You must be so fucking proud. If they were a majority white country, you would support 100% of their atrocities and clamor for more.
So many countries are worse than mine. Oh boi, do you know how bored I am hearing about free state Congo and Belgian Congo? It’s just people wikipedia’ing it while I had it in my history classes.
Aight let’s see 1885 to 1908. Whoopsie. Free state Congo. Literally ran like a company without any human rights whatsoever. No information of atrocities are leaving the country. 10 million Congolese died. Leopold II even hated the maiming, not because of his kind heart, but because they couldn’t work without hands.
Then 1909 to 1960 Belgian Congo.
At the peak of colonisation 10 to 20% of Belgian GDP depended on the Congo. A lot of development happened but it was all in order to extract resources.
1979… Whoopdiedaisie, they really did not succeed in having stability. Their purchasing power decreased to not even 10% of what it was in 1960.
Now it’s China’s turn.
Buddy, my child is half Asian. My wife looks Chinese according to people from her own country. She probably has Han DNA.
I don’t give a fuck.
I only talk about china because most people on this platform view China as the shining hope. That can do no wrong.
If you dislike china, then I’ll start talking good about china 🤣
This really just is a game to me isn’t it
And so many more would be, but your country contains you.
I found that telling you my positions on anything just gives you something to troll with, but it turns out that my positions don’t matter to you since you’re just trolling. Like so:
Well, that’s because you’re a troll.
I prefer the term ragebaiter 😡
If your own child was on the LGBT+ spectrum and was right now in the US, your take would have been way different.
I’m pro Europe on all fronts. I think we’re better. So I agree lol.
If majority of Lemmy users come from .ml, then yeah. But there are also servers that do not care.
It’s too bad you’re being forced to be here.
I actually am hahahhaa.
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Imagine being too far to the right for reddit and then thinking that you will be met with enthusiastic agreement on lemmy.
Nah not really, I just said kill Elon musk for impacting German politics. Not because of anything he said, but because he’s not an elected European.
Impacting EU legislation, tsk tsk tsk.
Me being extreme right to extreme left depends on the topic.
Most people are politically, economically and financially illiterate.
They just have their brand (insert your preferred ideology) and just question themselves: is this what my brand wants? Then they do ☺️ or 😡
I vote for social democrats (freedom of expression is important to them). But clearly not everything I say is viewed as leftist.
There’s a lot I say that would get me to vote for other parties. I just vote what I find most important in society. But I still will heavily criticise it.
You’re not a Belgian if you don’t criticise the government (every single political ideology). It’s our national sport. We complain. A lot. Like the Italians, but without the passionate gestures and intonation.
I’m not sorry that elon isn’t far enough to the right for you either.
As I said, most people are politically, economically and financially illiterate. That’s why I can have a job providing such services. Which is a good thing. Even though it seems really easy to me. I like money, so keep it coming.
So we’re just making random statements now instead of responding to what was actually said?
But you gave little to no content. All you said is that Elon isn’t right wing enough for me. What does that even mean? Only if you give enough clarification, then I can communicate to you that you’re correct or mistaken
That doesn’t stop you about nonsensically yammering about IS.
I still don’t know why you think I’m further right wing than Elon musk lol
Are you trying to brand me evil so that my opinion is to be censored? 🙈
Because you’ve done a poor job of hiding it.
And what did you see, exactly? I’m a staunch supporter of transparency. It’s literally my job.
I haven’t been hiding anything, just tell me which part of the massive amount of information I give available to you has led you to believe I’m further right wing than Elon musk.
What does Elon musk do and why is what he does less right wing than what I have done?
This is an EXERCISE for you. Critical thinking. I’m giving you an opportunity to become better.
I’m an astronaut, doctor, lawyer and actor. But what I really want to do is direct. I can lie about my job too.
The very first sentence:
To a rightwinger, I suppose it might look that way.
Become less condescending.
It’s easy to be condescending when I am better (if you take this serious, you make my day)
You could lie about your profession, but let’s say you’re a doctor. Then you’re quite great at everything that the human body is about. Viruses, medicine, etc. You also need to be quite good against stress and be able to withhold a lot of information. Likely take drugs while doing exams.
Lawyer, that’s great. You’re a bureaucrat that does the work of the governments. You make it so that national and international law is utilised correctly.
Astronaut… idk shit bout that
Actor. Oi, you’re the opposite of transparency, bad… bad
Ah so because I say Lemmy is a left wing echo chamber, I cannot be a leftist?
Is it not allowed for leftists to criticise their own?
When you try to validate an institution’s information might be correct. A good question to pose is: what were you wrong about?
If they give you an immense amount of info, then that’s brilliant.
If they say that they never were wrong (hello .LM), then well… I’d take my distance.
I mean, don’t worry, being an accountant isn’t really that difficult. Nobody really wants to do it. Boring to a lot of people. But I find it interesting, as you can see.
Admitting to trolling. Goodbye.
I’m indeed entertaining myself because you don’t provide content
It’s not my responsibility to entertain you, troll.
I don’t think you even have the ability, which means you lack skills 😢
Go away, troll.
Bro I am using Lemmy for the same reason. And honestly here people won’t understand your concerns either
I was IP banned in reddit for saying that gender neutral laws should be implemented in my country. And here I’m banned in a community for saying communism won’t save my country.
There is no difference as such between these two platforms. The only good thing about reddit is that it had more relevant subs and users
I’m getting banned on a lot of communities here on Lemmy, I’m just taking it for a ride.
Fediverse is a great step forward. But it really creates echo chambers, even more so than on Reddit I feel.
On Reddit you have for example capitalismvsocialism or purplepilldebate.
Places that people come together to talk out their differences (or yell at eachother, 70% of the time).
If there’s an open source platform where people can create communities but can’t ban people on them. I’d join it in a heartbeat.
But then the problem would be things like CP.
So I suppose that’s just not going to be possible.
There’s always going to be abuse, difficult to find a middle ground
Yeah you’re right.
But the difference is that you can create your own instances too if you don’t like their ideologies. Or even make your community. So it’s slightly better
Btw have you gotten any better alternative of Reddit?
No I have not found anything else, haven’t been looking either to be honest.
Mastodon has 1 million downloads, but it’s a twitter alternative. Can give that a go
I never really liked the twitter like apps, at this point I’m even banned from X where people literally say any shit which comes to their mind
I’m searching for a reddit like forum and till now Lemmy is the one which I have got
Please let me know if you find another alternative. Forum social media is my favourite too.
A good thing about Lemmy is that you can change instance/make your own and do and promote anything you like. That’s the fundamental difference.
You can be banned from a community, from instance, even. But not from Lemmy as a whole.
A fundamental shift may occur when more people of the same views start alternative communities where such pressures are absent.
Internet Libre o Barbarie!
For some reason I feel like all of these things need to be three word phrases so this two word one, I must change it to “Alles Gegen Nazis”
Meh … I wish there was a middle ground. Non-corporate, yet effective. Unfortunately, the Fediverse is only the first.
Discovery algorithms can be great, if applied with care. And I really think ActivityPub is not very effective at showing interesting stuff, while from a user perspective it’s super intransparent. Personally I’d prefer a centralized user experience to the Fediverse fragmentation any day … I guess I’m really only here because I’m fed up with corporate bullshit.
I’m with you.
Thankfully, corporate bullahit isn’t the only way to create a discovery algorithm.
I expect that we will have a diverse set of discovery algorithms available to opt into here, in a few years.
I’m an FC St. Pauli fan too…“Gegen Nazis,” but also against the Communists too.
yeah what’s even the difference between exterminating minorities and giving laborers ownership of the means of production anyway
Karl Marx, in theory is 100% correct, but humans will find a way to fuck it all up. The Communists were just as nasty, corrupt and power hungry as the Nazis.
No, he’s really not. He’s completely wrong. Life is about more than eating, sleeping and working. Communism is a good approach if survival of mankind is on the line, but not if we actually want to live our lives.
Thank god capitalism has that covered and everyone isn’t working and only getting bare survival out of it. If they’re getting that much.
Good that we can agree on that. :)
Agreed. A lot of people who think Communism is the answer to Capitalism fail to recognize that both are just different sides of the same centralization coin. Sure the utopian vision of Communism is decentralized governance, but the minute there is one party with all the power, even with the intention of going full decentralization one day, never do. Why? Same reason as Capitalism…centralized power is a drug that humans cannot let go of. Communism is just what every capitalist wishes they had…complete control.
Whenever someone sees people oppose nazis and are like “I also oppose commies!” I assume they only actually oppose communists.
I assume they are Nazis.
Your assumption is wrong in relation to my political views. Fuck them both.
But only when someone says “fuck nazis”
Same. I have no interest in corporate social media.
@Anarchotron666
I'm assuming you previously used Facebook mostly, right? If so, there's also a Facebook alternative called Friendica, with pretty much the same core functionality as Facebook (sans Marketplace). Besides that, you can also format your posts and comments, add titles to them, get a dislike button and customize your experience more than you could do there. Plus you can also follow Lemmy communities straight from there, as well as Mastodon accounts, Flipboard publications etc.
Check out friendica.world to try it out.
I wonder why isn’t Friendica more popular by now.
I have started to like Lemmy too. I made an account here because I was IP banned in reddit for expressing my opinion on gender neutral laws in my country
That’s the worst part of reddit. You can’t say something which go against their ideologies. Although I still want my reddit account back because fediverse isn’t popular in my country and there aren’t much relevant subs for me in here