Can you create/moderate a community on an instance other than your own?
from compostgoblin@slrpnk.net to fediverse@lemmy.world on 03 Mar 18:48
https://slrpnk.net/post/19057152
from compostgoblin@slrpnk.net to fediverse@lemmy.world on 03 Mar 18:48
https://slrpnk.net/post/19057152
For example, let’s say I wanted to start a community around some topic, but I felt that lemmy.dbzer0.com was better suited for it than slrpnk.net. But I want to keep my account on slrpnk.net as the account that moderates the community. Is that possible?
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No
@a887dcd7a@lemmy.world
Bro is very adamant to close that community lol
Ehm. I’m not. I asked where the majority lays, spoke with feddit.org admins and opened a local account just in case that I need to step up.
But thanks for the misinterpretation and spreading false infos.
Edit: shame, shame, shame… I misunderstood @30p87@feddit.org like the monkey I am.
I meant that the person I replied to was adamant to get you to close that community. And they are very much against non-local mods, without presenting any reasons. Außerdem bin ich im Matrix channel.
Sorry!
Nah, also butchered the wording. Two words more and my intention would’ve been clear, but I was too lazy.
I’m actually in favor of keeping the community, because that’s just another part of decentralization. And I’ve never even noticed the other community, and likely would’ve not bothered to search for a replacement, had it just been closed.
Du schaffst das btw :3
Just edited my post.
feddit.org is a nice community. Never had so much interaction on other servers. Basically I had a great first day at school.
I wonder, aren’t you on lemmy for ~2 years already? Or do you mean the conversations in the matrix channel?
My lemmy interaction was quite limited up until today.
Some time ago, when the first reddit migration happend, I took over a stale community. It faded and there was nothing to moderate, write or comment. Also most communities I’m subscribed to, do not produced so much relevant content. I fell back to reddit.
Ah, okay. I was lucky that my reddit account got banned anyway, so … there’s no temptation to go back anyway (and the UI is horrible, and the old client I used (Infinity) had a lemmy fork (Eternity) after a few days after the API stuff).
So yeah, welcome I guess :3
The way it is usually done is that when locking the old community you point out to the new community
Not sure what you mean, I gave reasons every time
lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/39072798/17039243
I was referring to this specific post, where you did not provide reasons at first. I do understand (and know) that non-local modding is buggy, but just “No” doesn’t help much, especially for people who don’t know.
Yeah, I was in a rush, thankfully other people clarified
The long answer is that you need a local alt to open the community, and if you then try to use the remote account to mod you will get issues.
You also can’t add mods using a remote account: lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/38312525/16893470
Editing the community sidebar doesn’t work: lemm.ee/post/53298142/17673948
You can’t also update the banner and the avatar: lemm.ee/post/53298142/17674272
You can moderate communities on other instances, but you can’t create one yourself.
Grabbed a screenshot of the mod list of !onehundredninetysix@lemmy.blahaj.zone, for example, which shows a few different instances represented within the mod team.
<img alt="" src="https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/2562da7e-c3d7-4c87-a8aa-b8a40bf95d94.jpeg">
Afaik reports are not federated yet, so mods from other instances won’t get report notifications, but otherwise the same tools are available for them. So possible, but limited.
Reports federate, in a limited way. They federate to the instance the community is hosted on, the instance the reported user is hosted on, the instance the reporting user is hosted on (well technically, it doesn’t federate to the last one, as that is where it started). I don’t believe that a report will federate to a remote instance that doesn’t meet one of those criteria, even if it hosts a moderator for the community, but I’m not certain about this one.
Either way, report resolutions don’t directly federate, so resolving a report doesn’t resolve it on the other instances. It looks like they federate, because post removal from a mod federates, and removing a post auto closes the report. However, a report that was spurious or a troll or whatever that isn’t going to be actioned, has to be manually closed down on each instance it federates to.
That’s pretty much the issue with remote reports. In practical terms that means the vast majority of the reports are not delivered to the person moderating. For example I moderate /c/europe@feddit.org and I rarely get any reports from that community on my slrpnk.net account, and it is a popular community with lots of reports according to my co-moderator with a feddit.org account.
Apparently there is a fix in the works for Lemmy 0.20/1.0 but that release is still a while out according to the devs.
You also can’t add mods using a remote account: lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/38312525/16893470
Editing the community sidebar doesn’t work: lemm.ee/post/53298142/17673948
You can’t also update the banner and the avatar: lemm.ee/post/53298142/17674272
Post pinning is also pretty wonky.
lemmyshitpost on lemmy.world currently has a mod from startrek.website. Not sure if that means you can create it but it seems that you can at least be listed as a mod.
You can mod a community on an instance other than your home, but you have to be appointed. You can only create a community on your home instance.
Youd make a dbzero account, make the community, post from your slrpnk account and appoint yourself a mod
You also can’t add mods using a remote account: lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/38312525/16893470
Editing the community sidebar doesn’t work: lemm.ee/post/53298142/17673948
You can’t also update the banner and the avatar: lemm.ee/post/53298142/17674272
I have been able to do all of those things with remote accounts.
Interesting, the appointing a remote mod not working is a recent example.
In which community were you able to appoint a mod using a remote account?
Another example from today pinning a post doesn’t work:
!bloomcounty@lemm.ee I appointed my .ee account after hearing that remote moderation did not work.
I have pinned and unpinned a post in !womenshockey@reddthat.com
I have added a community avatar to !womenshockey@reddthat.com and changed it within a week.
Interesting, then I don’t know why it didn’t work for @fxomt@lemmy.dbzer0.com earlier…
I might do some testing later this week if I have some time
I just added my .ee account to the mods of !pokemon@lemm.ee from my Sopuli account.
Interesting
Another recent example: sopuli.xyz/post/23214794/14973865
If you can get someone else with a local account to open the community they can hand it over to your slrpnk.net account afterwards. Most of the many previous bugs around moderation functions have been fixed in 0.19.8/9.
However there are two main issues remaining:
You will rarely get any reports as those do not properly federate right now. A fix is supposedly in the works for the next Lemmy release, but this has been promised a few times with limited success.
If de-federated instances differ then you can end up with impossible to moderate situations. For example hexbear.net is blocked by slrpnk.net but it is not blocked by lemmy.dbzer0.com. This means people from that instance can post to the community, but these post are entirely invisible to you as a moderator with an account from slrpnk.net.
My recommendation is that you do not do remote moderation alone. At best you can help someone with an account on that remote instance to moderate a remote community.
You can moderate remote communities, but you can’t create ones. Though you can “own” (be the top mod) in one iirc.
You can moderate and own one from a remote one, but there is some issues with reports federating.