Can anybody anywhere in the world 🌍 create a website like lemmy and Mastodon with possibility of creating multiple instances and feed it into the fediverse so that it gets shared into both lemmy and?
from Docker@lemmy.world to fediverse@lemmy.world on 26 Apr 10:20
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Docker@lemmy.world on 26 Apr 10:21 next collapse

Mastodon ?

[deleted] on 26 Apr 13:34 collapse

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Binette@lemmy.ml on 26 Apr 10:27 next collapse

If you mean the ability to post at both at the same time, on the same site, there’s mbin.

ns1@feddit.uk on 26 Apr 10:29 next collapse

Not sure exactly what the question is but I’m fairly sure the answer is yes. 😀 Anyone can start a Lemmy/Mastodon instance and anyone can create new software that federates with it.

Docker@lemmy.world on 26 Apr 13:05 collapse

My question is that since Lemmy/Mastodon are centred in Europe and hence is bound to follow the EU norms, can anybody create something similar to this - anywhere in the world outside of EU - and then federate it into lemmy/Mastodon ?

wildbus8979@sh.itjust.works on 26 Apr 13:57 next collapse

What makes you think Lemmy is “centered” in the EU?

Docker@lemmy.world on 26 Apr 15:02 collapse

Anything that doesn’t go down well with the EU norms get banned immediately, sometimes the user too gets blocked.

athairmor@lemmy.world on 26 Apr 15:18 next collapse

Lemmy and Mastodon aren’t centralized. Instances can federate with other instances as they choose. If your instance has, for example, a lot of bigoted communities and users, you can expect the bigger instances to de-federate from yours.

You can always federate with instances that reject “EU norms”—whatever that means—in a bubble of your own.

wildbus8979@sh.itjust.works on 26 Apr 15:21 collapse

Where? I’m not on an EU instance. And you were recently directly linked to the fedecan initiative.

FartsWithAnAccent@fedia.io on 26 Apr 14:12 next collapse

They are not centered in any location.

Ulrich@feddit.org on 26 Apr 16:46 collapse

Not sure what you mean by “centred”. They’re both just software. Some of the developers certainly live there but they’re both open-source projects with contributors from all over the world. And software doesn’t have an originating country.

Docker@lemmy.world on 26 Apr 17:21 collapse

But software developed and working in the EU zone does have to follow certain regulations.

Ulrich@feddit.org on 26 Apr 17:24 collapse

What does “developed and working” even mean? Both are developed using GitHub, which is owned by an American company. Servers are located around the world. Developers are located around the world.

Docker@lemmy.world on 26 Apr 19:20 collapse

Practically anybody is free to use GitHub. However, if l’m the developer, l need to comply with the laws of the country l live in/work from. The same regulations apply for the servers as well.

That’s what I mean !! If I work from lndia and the server is located in lndia, then neither are bound by EU regulations pertaining to the internet/social media. At the best, the server would be barred from the EU.

Ulrich@feddit.org on 26 Apr 21:16 collapse

If I work from lndia and the server is located in lndia, then neither are bound by EU regulations pertaining to the internet/social media.

That’s precisely my point though. You’re referring to these softwares collectively but they can be deployed by anyone and hosted anywhere, so it’s impossible to answer.

Alphane_Moon@lemmy.world on 26 Apr 10:43 next collapse

You can post to Mastodon and tag Lemmy community and the Mastodon post will appear as a Lemmy post.

There are significant limitations to this approach such lack of graceful support for thumbnails, markdown (doesn’t work on the Mastodon side) and URLs. I.e. it’s only good fat basic text posts (or image only posts).

skullgiver@popplesburger.hilciferous.nl on 26 Apr 11:05 next collapse

Now that WordPress has official ActivityPub support: yes, pretty much. Posting to both Mastodon and Lemmy will be a challenge, though, as Lemmy doesn’t really offer following individual users.

Technically, any website can be an ActivityPub server, so you could “trick” Lemmy into thinking your website is a community while “tricking” Mastodon(-likes) into treating it like a normal feed. That’s pretty messy, though.

palordrolap@fedia.io on 26 Apr 20:32 next collapse

You want a website and software that does Lemmy and Mastodon at the same time? That'd be kbin / mbin.

In part because of the kbin creator's real world struggles, it hasn't really taken off quite as well as Lemmy has, but its successor mbin is in use in a few places. I'm currently on fedia.io which is an mbin instance, for example.

firesidefedi@lemmy.world on 26 Apr 22:07 collapse

Yes. This is how the internet was meant to be and how the Fediverse works. I just posted an Owncast lviestream to Lemmy and you could watch the livestream right in Lemmy. SOmeone can comment or like a Peertube video from Mastodon and it reflects on the Peertube video itself. It should all interconnect.

I’d recommend checking out piefed.social as well as what others recommended.

Or better yet, build your own if that’s what you’re thinking. :-D Always room in the fediverse for more projects imo!