Yeah, I saw them in Philly like 5-6 years ago. Brent was getting increasingly agitated with the roadies in between songs. It got to the point where he smashed his monitor to pieces right on the stage. Guy clearly has some issues.
shnizmuffin@lemmy.inbutts.lol
on 08 Jul 19:26
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Was that the concert in, like, a parking lot on Columbus Blvd. which was secretly a Primus concert?
Nah it was outside at the electric factory. They played with Opeth, Gojira, and Devin Townsend. Wish I could relive that one
mintiefresh@piefed.ca
on 08 Jul 16:55
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Wow, took them so long to get quote posts. A welcome addition imo (I know there's a lot of controversy around implementing it, but for me, I think I prefer it).
sakari@mastodon.world
on 08 Jul 17:05
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Same with the Misskey clones. There have been some very dramatic opinions on both sides.
mintiefresh@piefed.ca
on 08 Jul 17:16
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Oh, my understanding is that originally they didn't want quote posts because it could lead to a culture of people dunking on each other and a lot of negativity.
So I believe there was a lot of resistance early on against that feature. That's just what I've seen people saying whenever this feature was requested over the past few years. I could be wrong though.
Cris_Color@lemmy.world
on 08 Jul 17:18
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To my understanding (please take with several grains of salt), some folks felt like it would encourage toxicity since you can essentially mock something someone said without saying it to them directly, while sending your audience to the original post, and I believe for quite some time the plan was intentionally not to add it
On the other hand, I’ve heard folks suggest that by allowing people to have their own isolated conversation about an idea you can potentially limit some of the harmful consequences of people with large audiences or something, but I don’t remember the exact explanation
Personally I’m happy to get quote posts and I’m happy that mastodon is cautious about implementing features that facilitate hostile interactions in the way that major platforms do for engagement
Hopefully someone can chime in with a more informed/detailed explanation, but I thought I’d share what I know in case I’m the only one to reply :)
sakari@mastodon.world
on 08 Jul 17:23
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@Cris_Color thanks. Friendica has it and i dont see people talking down about it though. I also already seen people being that way (it was a conservative using #justsayin afterward, coming from another instance) on a reply, maybe just notify people of quote posts so its not something equivalent to be talking at their backs without them being aware of it, notification could help
I think quote posts are undesirable for the reasons you mentioned but I have to accept that it will be huge for adoption, and the flip side (promoting others work in a positive light) is also going to be really great.
@Alphane_Moon thanks anyway :) some people were willing to share their thoughts on it. if it wasnt for your post with the people commenting on it i'd not know
The plan is to fully implement this by Mastodon 4.5 later in the year.
macstainless@discuss.tchncs.de
on 08 Jul 17:34
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This is fantastic. I REALLY hope you can set a control on a post that allows quoting to be disabled or only allowed by people you follow. A great step in the right direction.
Alphane_Moon@lemmy.world
on 08 Jul 17:37
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This would be a really neat feature and would allow for the best of both worlds so to speak.
andypiper@lemmy.world
on 08 Jul 18:30
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For a second there I thought you meant mastodon the band. Interesting new direction for the lads I thoughts to myself
They did recently kick Brent out of the band, speaking of new directions
Oh, shit! He was always a bit vitriolic.
Yeah, I saw them in Philly like 5-6 years ago. Brent was getting increasingly agitated with the roadies in between songs. It got to the point where he smashed his monitor to pieces right on the stage. Guy clearly has some issues.
Was that the concert in, like, a parking lot on Columbus Blvd. which was secretly a Primus concert?
Nah it was outside at the electric factory. They played with Opeth, Gojira, and Devin Townsend. Wish I could relive that one
Wow, took them so long to get quote posts. A welcome addition imo (I know there's a lot of controversy around implementing it, but for me, I think I prefer it).
@mintiefresh @Alphane_Moon whats the controversy surround it? im not aware of any
It encourages dog-piling essentially
@Olap i wasnt aware of it being used as argument against its implementation, thanks. Friendica has it implemented already as far as im aware
Same with the Misskey clones. There have been some very dramatic opinions on both sides.
Oh, my understanding is that originally they didn't want quote posts because it could lead to a culture of people dunking on each other and a lot of negativity.
So I believe there was a lot of resistance early on against that feature. That's just what I've seen people saying whenever this feature was requested over the past few years. I could be wrong though.
To my understanding (please take with several grains of salt), some folks felt like it would encourage toxicity since you can essentially mock something someone said without saying it to them directly, while sending your audience to the original post, and I believe for quite some time the plan was intentionally not to add it
On the other hand, I’ve heard folks suggest that by allowing people to have their own isolated conversation about an idea you can potentially limit some of the harmful consequences of people with large audiences or something, but I don’t remember the exact explanation
Personally I’m happy to get quote posts and I’m happy that mastodon is cautious about implementing features that facilitate hostile interactions in the way that major platforms do for engagement
Hopefully someone can chime in with a more informed/detailed explanation, but I thought I’d share what I know in case I’m the only one to reply :)
@Cris_Color thanks. Friendica has it and i dont see people talking down about it though. I also already seen people being that way (it was a conservative using #justsayin afterward, coming from another instance) on a reply, maybe just notify people of quote posts so its not something equivalent to be talking at their backs without them being aware of it, notification could help
Note that for now, quote posts from other platforms will be displayed correctly in Mastodon 4.4. You can't quote posts yet. That will come in 4.5
(I will update mastodon.world tomorrow)
I think quote posts are undesirable for the reasons you mentioned but I have to accept that it will be huge for adoption, and the flip side (promoting others work in a positive light) is also going to be really great.
No idea, I do use Mastodon relatively regularly, but I am not on top of development discussions.
This was news for me so I decided to share. :)
@Alphane_Moon thanks anyway :) some people were willing to share their thoughts on it. if it wasnt for your post with the people commenting on it i'd not know
The plan is to fully implement this by Mastodon 4.5 later in the year.
This is fantastic. I REALLY hope you can set a control on a post that allows quoting to be disabled or only allowed by people you follow. A great step in the right direction.
This would be a really neat feature and would allow for the best of both worlds so to speak.
That is the plan, you can see more in our previous blog post.
This is how it works on BlueSky. And you can detach your original post from someone else’s quote post of it after-the-fact.
For my understanding, what is the difference between a quote post and a post that contains a link to another post?
With a quote post, the post you are quoting is fully (text, avatar image) nested in your post.
It was commonly used on Twitter (I deleted my accounts some time ago).
Whatever keeps us all tooting is good in my book. Enjoying the services and keep up the great work.