Blaze@feddit.org
on 04 Nov 2024 21:07
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Nice article
How applicable the concepts of decentralisation and federation are to the ATmosphere is debatable, but they are used as an approximation for the core question: how is power distributed in the network? And Bluesky and the ATmosphere make it clear that technological architecture can only help so much here: Sure, you can be completely independent of Bluesky PBC on the ATmosphere, as everything is open. But in the end, 99% of users are exclusively on infrastructure owned by Bluesky PBC. No technological architecture can compensate for that kind of the power distribution.
JubilantJaguar@lemmy.world
on 04 Nov 2024 21:21
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Interesting read, somewhat enlightening.
But IMO, from the point of view of interoperability, it was bad enough having competing corporate social networks. We don’t want to replace that with competing open meta-networks. And yet ActivityPub and ATProto seem to use completely different paradigms, which would make bridging them pretty hard. Frustrating.
People interested in actual federation would probably never use ATProto anyway
muntedcrocodile@lemm.ee
on 04 Nov 2024 21:41
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Yeah seems designed to give more power to the large “instances” (whats it called on atproto) who can afford to aggregate the entire network.
iopq@lemmy.world
on 05 Nov 2024 04:37
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So Nostr actually compares favorably to both since I don’t even know which servers send out by messages to everyone. Also, every single one is IP banned in China already
rain_worl@lemmy.world
on 05 Nov 2024 16:18
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Nice article
Interesting read, somewhat enlightening.
But IMO, from the point of view of interoperability, it was bad enough having competing corporate social networks. We don’t want to replace that with competing open meta-networks. And yet ActivityPub and ATProto seem to use completely different paradigms, which would make bridging them pretty hard. Frustrating.
People interested in actual federation would probably never use ATProto anyway
Yeah seems designed to give more power to the large “instances” (whats it called on atproto) who can afford to aggregate the entire network.
So Nostr actually compares favorably to both since I don’t even know which servers send out by messages to everyone. Also, every single one is IP banned in China already
should really be called atproot