Mastodon forms new U.S. non-profit (blog.joinmastodon.org)
from makmarian@kbin.social to fediverse@lemmy.world on 27 Apr 2024 15:35
https://kbin.social/m/fediverse@lemmy.world/t/989730

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Aatube@kbin.melroy.org on 27 Apr 2024 16:12 next collapse

We’ve always been worried that developing Free and Open Source Software would not be recognized as a charitable cause by the German tax system, so we were glad when the tax office originally approved our non-profit status in 2021. But now we have received a notice from the same tax office that our non-profit status has been withdrawn. This came with no advance warning or explanation. Earlier this year we went through a successful tax audit, which in fact resulted in some favourable adjustments as we’ve been paying too much tax. Our tax advisor immediately submitted an appeal to the decision, but so far, we have no new information.

Flax_vert@feddit.uk on 27 Apr 2024 16:44 next collapse

Pretty silly for something literally used by the European Union and other European Governments. Am I right in thinking the German Government is one of those?

onlinepersona@programming.dev on 27 Apr 2024 16:47 collapse
onlinepersona@programming.dev on 27 Apr 2024 16:44 collapse

Germany doing its utmost best to drive away innovation. Genius.

But why go to the USA? The EU has 27 members and Switzerland is a neighbor…

Anti Commercial-AI license

jmanes@lemmy.world on 27 Apr 2024 17:26 next collapse

I was wondering the same thing. Maybe in the USA it is easier due to our relaxed (almost non-existent) business oversight from the government? Not sure.

aasatru@kbin.earth on 27 Apr 2024 17:43 collapse

Also it's a bigger market of lawyers, so probably easier and cheaper to get high quality legal help against bullshit like this.

GlitterInfection@lemmy.world on 27 Apr 2024 18:04 collapse

I don’t know the answer but they pointed this out further in the press release:

However, it’s also important for us that Mastodon is one of the few, if not the only social media platform that operates out of the EU, and we would like to keep it that way.

I’d assume that this is for a reason, too. If it were advantageous to run your company out of the EU people would probably do so sometimes.

simple@lemm.ee on 27 Apr 2024 16:26 next collapse

Insanely bizarre, Germany has historically been pro-open source and the EU was just saying that the Fediverse is here to stay.

rettetdemdativ@discuss.tchncs.de on 27 Apr 2024 17:08 next collapse

Could you provide a source for the second part? I’m genuinely interested

SMillerNL@lemmy.world on 27 Apr 2024 17:28 collapse
Daxtron2@startrek.website on 27 Apr 2024 19:05 next collapse

That doesn’t change the fact that the US has de facto control over most of the web infrastructure

Andromxda@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 28 Apr 2024 13:51 collapse

Germany has historically been pro-open source and the EU was just saying that the Fediverse is here to stay

That’s a matter of politics. The tax authority doesn’t care about the political stance of the German government. They also sometimes just take weird decisions that seem pretty random, but it’s nothing political.

JoYo@lemmy.ml on 27 Apr 2024 19:39 next collapse

I know they were already in the process of the 501c but that’s really gotta come as a bummer.

They’ll lose a lot of donors in the EU if they can’t keep that non-profit status.

Immersive_Matthew@sh.itjust.works on 28 Apr 2024 00:09 collapse

I thought it was decentralized? Disappointing to learn this.

bilb@lem.monster on 28 Apr 2024 00:26 collapse

It is.

The people in charge of maintaining Mastodon in particular though need to establish some kind of legal entity and that needs legal recognition somewhere.

Immersive_Matthew@sh.itjust.works on 28 Apr 2024 00:48 collapse

Why? Bitcoin does not and that is the point. If there is a throat to chock some will chock it or take it over.