lemm.ee dead
from pewgar_seemsimandroid@lemmy.blahaj.zone to fediverse@lemmy.world on 29 Jun 21:33
https://lemmy.blahaj.zone/post/28228515

cross-posted from: lemmy.blahaj.zone/post/28228514

website is up, you can see a handful of posts but you cannot login and mostly just errors out.

#fediverse

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ada@piefed.blahaj.zone on 29 Jun 21:41 next collapse

It just redirects to https://join-lemmy.org/ for me

pewgar_seemsimandroid@lemmy.blahaj.zone on 29 Jun 21:42 next collapse

interesting 🤔

roofuskit@lemmy.world on 30 Jun 00:31 collapse

Not really, the admins and just about every active community on there announced a month ago that they were shutting down.

Beacon@fedia.io on 30 Jun 00:45 collapse

I think op was saying it's interesting that it redirects rather than just an error

roofuskit@lemmy.world on 30 Jun 00:48 collapse

That’s not really interesting. DNS changes don’t propagate instantly. It’s likely OPs DNS server was still pointing to the old server even though the domain redirect had already been set by the owners.

dontbelievethis@sh.itjust.works on 30 Jun 19:46 collapse

So you are the arbiter of interesting now?

pewgar_seemsimandroid@lemmy.blahaj.zone on 29 Jun 21:45 next collapse

oh, now it does

FundMECFSResearch@lemmy.blahaj.zone on 30 Jun 16:04 collapse

That’s pretty smart of the admins, actually. Thankful they thought of that.

hendrik@palaver.p3x.de on 29 Jun 21:42 next collapse

It's 30th of June. Lemm.ee is shutting down now.

https://piefed.social/post/816659

pewgar_seemsimandroid@lemmy.blahaj.zone on 29 Jun 21:44 collapse

im pretty sure it was having issues on the 29th

hendrik@palaver.p3x.de on 29 Jun 21:51 collapse

Well... it's 10 before midnight here. I'm pretty sure a bit east from me it's the 30th already. Not so much in the west. But I don't know where lemm.ee was located.

Blaze@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 29 Jun 21:53 next collapse

Estonia, so it’s already the 30th there

pewgar_seemsimandroid@lemmy.blahaj.zone on 29 Jun 21:53 collapse

pretty sure sunaurus is an Estonian.

hendrik@palaver.p3x.de on 29 Jun 22:00 next collapse

Ah. My instance reports the last activity from lemm.ee from 45mins ago... So that'd be June 30th, 00:14 Estonian time. And the main page forwards to join-lemmy.org now. Looks like the shutdown to me.

ech@lemmy.ca on 29 Jun 22:30 collapse

Also, .ee is the TLD for Estonia.

pewgar_seemsimandroid@lemmy.blahaj.zone on 30 Jun 08:00 collapse

well yes, i am estonian

trk@aussie.zone on 29 Jun 22:17 next collapse

I’m not even a member of lemm.ee and was aware of it closing today^*^

^*^ - timezone dependent but +/-24hours.

frenchfryenjoyer@lemmings.world on 30 Jun 12:15 collapse

Same. at least users of lemm.ee were given a lot of notice in advance so they could prep

iso@lemy.lol on 29 Jun 22:32 next collapse

Sadge. It was a pretty solid instance.

million@lemmy.world on 29 Jun 23:01 next collapse

What happened? Did the instance maintainer just get sick of running it?

ada@piefed.blahaj.zone on 29 Jun 23:04 collapse

The admin team burned out

million@lemmy.world on 29 Jun 23:06 collapse

Bummer - sucks to lose a good server

pewgar_seemsimandroid@lemmy.blahaj.zone on 30 Jun 08:00 collapse

and the estonian community was on there too, and my account on there.

BubblyRomeo@kbin.earth on 29 Jun 23:16 next collapse

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Suck_on_my_Presence@lemmy.world on 29 Jun 23:29 next collapse

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don@lemmy.ca on 30 Jun 01:19 collapse

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mp04610@lemmy.zip on 01 Jul 01:11 collapse

F

Revan343@lemmy.ca on 01 Jul 00:34 collapse

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TerkErJerbs@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 30 Jun 01:15 next collapse

Confirm is ded. I moved from there. RIP.

kai@quokk.au on 01 Jul 16:44 collapse

quokk.au is nice too if you want to use PieFed instead since db0 has no PieFed instance yet

mp3@lemmy.ca on 30 Jun 01:50 next collapse

🍺

pruwybn@discuss.tchncs.de on 30 Jun 06:15 next collapse

I wasn’t affected by this directly, but from what I saw it was all handled extremely well - lots of notice so users could choose new instances and mods could coordinate moving communities elsewhere. Makes me optimistic for the fediverse.

[deleted] on 30 Jun 10:11 next collapse

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Sackeshi@lemmy.world on 30 Jun 15:57 next collapse

There is going to need to be some centralization of some form for this to work. The fediverse is a mess right now but its such a good idea.

FundMECFSResearch@lemmy.blahaj.zone on 30 Jun 16:06 collapse

What, centralisation has the opposite effect. It makes things worse. Imagine lemmy.world shutting down (the biggest instance), lemmy would be fucked.

Decentralisation is to be encouraged. So if an instance shuts down, it’s not the end of the world.

Like how basically all lemm.ee communities were migrated.

Sackeshi@lemmy.world on 30 Jun 16:23 collapse

When I say centralization I don’t mean letting a few control the many. This is what I mean.

  1. Figure out what the alternatives are for these sites we don’t need several Twitter alternatives.

  2. Each site needs a front page, Accessible on the Fediverse front page. This allows people to easily make an account.

  3. There should be one main site which will be the largest instance, people can edit the UI to feel how they like, but we need to allow communities to grow big.

  4. To safe guard against point 3, fund the sites with 100s or thousands of co-equal owners. Say you get 5K people donating $5 a week to each site, they each get 1 stock or piece of the “company” and now it prevents a reddit or twitter situation.

  5. The final thing, we need Fediverse user accounts, where once you make an account on 1 site you are automatically signed up to all of them and anyone can follow/subscribe and follow on all platforms, leading to a more cohesive biome

veniasilente@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 30 Jun 19:31 collapse

  1. No. There is no particular reason why there needs to be one (say) twitter alternative. Heck, there is not even a reason why there should be a alternative. Fediverse is allowed to be their own things.
  2. But each site already has their front page. See eg.: lemmy.dbzer0.com. Alternatively if you meant “each software”, that’s more-or-less what join-lemmy.org is doing.
  3. No but yes.
  4. I’m not sure that leads to where you think it leads to. That would require authenticating users financially, for one, else it becomes a dark pattern magnet for suckpuppeting.
  5. Mostly absolutely yes. I think I’ve seen it discussed a few times under “fediverse identity” or something like that.
Sackeshi@lemmy.world on 30 Jun 23:56 collapse

No. There is no particular reason why there needs to be one (say) twitter alternative.

Having multiple versons of the same type of platform artificially divides the Fediverse and makes it more likely that they’ll split along ideological lines

Heck, there is not even a reason why there should be a alternative. Fediverse is allowed to be their own things.

While it would be awesome if we could figureout unique formats of social media, everything has basically been done, Myspace, Facebook and Linkton are the format of keep up with your friends.

Twitter and BlueSky are the basic format for literally “see whats trending”

Reddit and Lemmy are the basic format of Curated Community Content.

Youtube is the basic video sharing platform.

Tiktok algorithmic video sharing and platform which actually improves on youtube.

It would be really hard to fine a way to make a truly unique social media site but would be awesome

veniasilente@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 30 Jun 19:27 next collapse

As a former lemmeezen, RIP, F, it was a good trip, quite decent service, but now it’s time to spread out.

db0 is being nice so far, and I even got an account on my country’s lemmy.

aceshigh@lemmy.world on 01 Jul 01:46 collapse

How’s dbz?

kai@quokk.au on 01 Jul 16:43 next collapse

db0 way of managing the community is great but PieFed is a lot better by what I'm noticing and they dont have a PieFed instance. quokk.au is close to that if you want to jump ship to PieFed meanwhile

veniasilente@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 01 Jul 17:30 collapse

Has both a piracy and a privacy community, which is nice and probably leads to fun mishaps / mistypings. It’s pretty lean to federate to and fro as well, same with the UI.

Just about the only negative I can consider is their position pro AI, but I can live with that, the world is pretty close to the end anyway.

pineapplelover@lemmy.zip on 01 Jul 00:46 next collapse

Currently in between .zip and dbzer0 seeing which vibe is right

aceshigh@lemmy.world on 01 Jul 01:46 next collapse

How’s zip so far?

dil@lemmy.zip on 01 Jul 02:53 next collapse

its good but I feel like I ran into less not likable ppl on lemm.ee, maybe they were already blocked instancewide or something

Or maybe ppl here are more argumentative these days lol

aceshigh@lemmy.world on 01 Jul 02:55 next collapse

Oh I hear you…. I didn’t think about that. World is heavily moderated and switching to another instance opens me up to more aggressive personalities.

kai@quokk.au on 01 Jul 16:47 collapse

if you want an anarchist instance on PieFed theres quokk.au while db0 hasnt joined PieFed yet

pineapplelover@lemmy.zip on 01 Jul 04:30 collapse

It’s ok I just don’t like how they handle images. When I click on an image it redirects to open in a browser (on mobile) or new tab (on desktop). Dbzer0 doesn’t do this. I suspect they handle images more like lemm.ee did.

TerkErJerbs@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 01 Jul 22:38 collapse

True story I actually meant to switch to .zip and I had both it and dbzer0 open in tabs for a few days (deciding between them) and on d-day for .ee I opened one and signed in and did the verification… and then realized where I was. And actually I’m happy with my accidental choice. It’s rad here.

GrayBackgroundMusic@lemmy.zip on 01 Jul 00:55 next collapse

I miss it.

absentbird@lemmy.world on 01 Jul 02:37 next collapse

Same, it was a good instance.

kai@quokk.au on 01 Jul 16:49 collapse

it still show up on search engine results lol i wonder hows that gonna work out now when people click to see a post and see its been shutdown

aceshigh@lemmy.world on 01 Jul 01:45 next collapse

… as someone whos considering switching out of world my eyes are open.

kai@quokk.au on 01 Jul 16:46 collapse

i used to be on .world but quickly went to .ee then i wanted to switch like you and was looking at db0 but im more interested in PieFed and they have no PieFed instance yet. quokk.au is close to a db0 equivalent (not really but its an anarchist instance too) meanwhile

ohshit604@sh.itjust.works on 01 Jul 03:21 next collapse

Done did their final sudo docker compose down

hefejefe@lemmy.world on 01 Jul 05:17 next collapse

Bad like brian over here. Signed up for lemme just to be kicked off the first server. Hopefully it’s an extremely rare event. If world goes down, I’m out.

I hear Digg is close to launching its beta or whatever…

oppy1984@lemdro.id on 01 Jul 17:07 collapse

Refuge here, moved to joined a new server, couldn’t get my subscriptions moved over so I just resubscribed to each one manually, annoying but not the end of the world.

I am looking into the idea of hosting my own instance on something like a $5 linod just to make sure this never happens again. But I don’t even know if it’s worth it, or possible with that. You can tell I’ve only had the idea not the motivation.

pewgar_seemsimandroid@lemmy.blahaj.zone on 01 Jul 18:28 next collapse

i also had to move instances and the estonian language community. (to lemmy.frozeninferno.xyz, lemmy.blahaj.zone might be defederated from it)

WanderWisley@lemmy.world on 02 Jul 08:11 collapse

Refugee families 🚣