squirrel@discuss.tchncs.de
on 20 Jun 09:41
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WordPress has automatic updates for core, plugins and themes. I’ve never had any problems with it, running a very basic WordPress site. Would something like that be possible for Lemmy?
unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de
on 20 Jun 10:10
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I doubt it tbh. A static wordpress site is infinitely less complex than something that constantly needs to take in and distribute content from/to thousands of endpoints with potentially many different api versions on the other side.
Im not that deep into activitypub stuff but from my understanding, automatic updates are not really a good idea in this case.
Federation doesnt have many breaking changes anymore. The bigger problem is if a database migration goes wrong, then there should be an admin around to fix it manually. Im sure Wordpress has the resources for much more thorough testing so these things dont happen.
Yes, I could easily configure our Podman containers to auto-update, but given how there have been significant breaking bugs in Lemmy releases before, I think it’s better to not automate it.
realbadat@programming.dev
on 20 Jun 21:14
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And I appreciate your choice (considering a good number of communities I enjoy are on your instance).
Personally I think anything prod level should be manual updates only anyway.
dfyx@lemmy.helios42.de
on 20 Jun 10:27
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I just made it 62.
green_dot@le.fduck.net
on 20 Jun 10:27
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did it before my smoke break
sabreW4K3@lazysoci.al
on 20 Jun 10:36
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Some of the larger instances have updated already. It’s beautiful to see.
mesamunefire@lemmy.world
on 20 Jun 13:59
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What’s the easiest way to pop up a server? I tried yunohost but the lemmy code is very old now.
walden@sub.wetshaving.social
on 20 Jun 14:06
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“Easy” might just be relevant to your experience. You can follow along with the Ansible instructions, or go your own way with Docker and Docker Compose.
Both methods require a bit of work to get spun up, but it’s not too bad.
I have mine hosted on elest.io. As easy as it gets. Just choose your software enter some initial domain setup and deploy. Can’t beat it for 18 bucks a month.
I scrolled to the bottom, saw there was 1 instance still running 0.16.6 lol, I clicked on it and saw it’s actually still active, there are recent posts there. Amazing.
Edit: all from 1 user lol no upvotes, might even be a bot.
Die4Ever@programming.dev
on 21 Jun 03:29
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0.19.5 has passed 0.19.4 now, with 86 vs 85
I’m surprised 0.18.4 has more instances than 0.18.5, considering 0.18.5 was the simplest update ever with just a small hotfix for federating moderation actions (which is a really important bugfix) and it didn’t have any changes to the database or configuration or dependencies
Having a look, the only instance with more than 250 monthly active users on 18.4 is Beehaw. They decided to not update after their disagreement with the Lemmy devs.
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WordPress has automatic updates for core, plugins and themes. I’ve never had any problems with it, running a very basic WordPress site. Would something like that be possible for Lemmy?
I doubt it tbh. A static wordpress site is infinitely less complex than something that constantly needs to take in and distribute content from/to thousands of endpoints with potentially many different api versions on the other side.
Im not that deep into activitypub stuff but from my understanding, automatic updates are not really a good idea in this case.
Federation doesnt have many breaking changes anymore. The bigger problem is if a database migration goes wrong, then there should be an admin around to fix it manually. Im sure Wordpress has the resources for much more thorough testing so these things dont happen.
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Do you know what “figure of speech” means?
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Fair enough. It was kind of an exaggeration i guess.
Yes, I could easily configure our Podman containers to auto-update, but given how there have been significant breaking bugs in Lemmy releases before, I think it’s better to not automate it.
And I appreciate your choice (considering a good number of communities I enjoy are on your instance).
Personally I think anything prod level should be manual updates only anyway.
I just made it 62.
did it before my smoke break
Some of the larger instances have updated already. It’s beautiful to see.
Just updated :) The broken “feature in local” function made me paranoid and I’m glad it fixed now.
My bad
yoo i’m on the list
I’ll probably update within a week as well :)
What’s the easiest way to pop up a server? I tried yunohost but the lemmy code is very old now.
“Easy” might just be relevant to your experience. You can follow along with the Ansible instructions, or go your own way with Docker and Docker Compose.
Both methods require a bit of work to get spun up, but it’s not too bad.
I have mine hosted on elest.io. As easy as it gets. Just choose your software enter some initial domain setup and deploy. Can’t beat it for 18 bucks a month.
I’m surprised that there are still instances out there running 0.18.2-rc2 or 0.17.0. Those versions are full of bugs and miss so many features.
I scrolled to the bottom, saw there was 1 instance still running 0.16.6 lol, I clicked on it and saw it’s actually still active, there are recent posts there. Amazing.
Edit: all from 1 user lol no upvotes, might even be a bot.
0.19.5 has passed 0.19.4 now, with 86 vs 85
I’m surprised 0.18.4 has more instances than 0.18.5, considering 0.18.5 was the simplest update ever with just a small hotfix for federating moderation actions (which is a really important bugfix) and it didn’t have any changes to the database or configuration or dependencies
Having a look, the only instance with more than 250 monthly active users on 18.4 is Beehaw. They decided to not update after their disagreement with the Lemmy devs.
They refuse to upgrade and then complain that mod tools are insufficient (which have improved a lot in the meantime). You really can’t make this up.
Is that version important somehow?
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Yes, a lot of bug fixes, such as cross-posting now working on 0.19.4
Oh sweet! And it was released 2 days ago! Wow, some people move quickly.
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Thanks for the post, it persuaded me to get off my bottom and add another one to the list.
Well done!