I didn’t knew about Bridgy Fed but isn’t that kind of creating a bot and duplicating profiles? I guess is better than nothing but it reminds me a bit of the app Surf which connects the fediverse with youtube and other stuff and while sounds good in practice I wonder if it makes people less willing to switch to the Fediverse because you don’t need to anymore.
MyTurtleSwimsUpsideDown@fedia.io
on 25 Aug 21:29
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As long as my socks still smell like fresh breeze, and don’t cling to my sweaters, then whatever.
gravitywell@sh.itjust.works
on 25 Aug 21:42
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Must be nice to start a centrally controlled social network call it decentralized and then just let other people not on the company payroll do all the work for you.
It is actually decentralized though? You can host your own pds and relay for pretty cheap now.
gravitywell@sh.itjust.works
on 25 Aug 22:59
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So how many people are doing that? I doubt more then 5% of their users are actually using a pds or ever will.
How many times do we have to watch venture capitalists enshittify services before people learn. Do you really think bluesky doesnt have plans to extract every drop of ad revenue and data harvesting at some point, decentralization doesnt work with that business model, sure its fine now in the honeymoon phase but wait till Jack decides ita time to cash out.
Eyekaytee@aussie.zone
on 26 Aug 00:14
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How many times do we have to watch venture capitalists enshittify services before people learn.
maybe they consider the fediverse worse than the “enshittified” venture capitalist backed service?
gravitywell@sh.itjust.works
on 26 Aug 03:50
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Thats certainly a choice, people are very good at justifing thier support of corporations if it means even the slightest bit of convenience.
I dont think there is much hope for the majoriy of internet users at this point, its just too easy for corps and oligarchs to control the narrative.
EarlGrey@discuss.tchncs.de
on 26 Aug 00:17
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wait till Jack decides ita time to cash out
I mean, you don’t like BlueSky, fair. But Jack Dorsey left like…over a year ago.
gravitywell@sh.itjust.works
on 26 Aug 03:41
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Sure, and the 14b he gave was with no strings attached.
I agree. That’s why I’m happy it’s fully decentralised, so that by the time they try to do that, they’ll be but one player on atproto, and won’t be able to get away with it.
gravitywell@sh.itjust.works
on 26 Aug 03:55
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Id love to be wrong, but much like how meta patched threads into AP, i see this primarily as a performative gesture to allow them to take credit for “federating” when they have no intention of allowing it to get out of their control.
I see why you think that, and I agree threads sucks. But bsky is actually fully open source and they are actively working to make federation better. I do think the current leadership genuinely cares about making a federated platform.
Will they enshittify? Yes, probably when the current ceo leaves. But by then other services will have popped up, and ATproto is built in such a way that you can move services without your current service’s consent.
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Oh thats interesting! So you can keep all your followers + who you follow in theory. Thats nice.
I love that it has a ci job too: https://github.com/snarfed/bounce
This is what true federation should look like, the service being just a way to communicate for people not the end all be all. People over platforms.
I didn’t knew about Bridgy Fed but isn’t that kind of creating a bot and duplicating profiles? I guess is better than nothing but it reminds me a bit of the app Surf which connects the fediverse with youtube and other stuff and while sounds good in practice I wonder if it makes people less willing to switch to the Fediverse because you don’t need to anymore.
As long as my socks still smell like fresh breeze, and don’t cling to my sweaters, then whatever.
What?
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Must be nice to start a centrally controlled social network call it decentralized and then just let other people not on the company payroll do all the work for you.
Fuckin corpos
It is actually decentralized though? You can host your own pds and relay for pretty cheap now.
So how many people are doing that? I doubt more then 5% of their users are actually using a pds or ever will.
How many times do we have to watch venture capitalists enshittify services before people learn. Do you really think bluesky doesnt have plans to extract every drop of ad revenue and data harvesting at some point, decentralization doesnt work with that business model, sure its fine now in the honeymoon phase but wait till Jack decides ita time to cash out.
maybe they consider the fediverse worse than the “enshittified” venture capitalist backed service?
Thats certainly a choice, people are very good at justifing thier support of corporations if it means even the slightest bit of convenience.
I dont think there is much hope for the majoriy of internet users at this point, its just too easy for corps and oligarchs to control the narrative.
I mean, you don’t like BlueSky, fair. But Jack Dorsey left like…over a year ago.
Sure, and the 14b he gave was with no strings attached.
Its not like Jay Garber is any better
I agree. That’s why I’m happy it’s fully decentralised, so that by the time they try to do that, they’ll be but one player on atproto, and won’t be able to get away with it.
Id love to be wrong, but much like how meta patched threads into AP, i see this primarily as a performative gesture to allow them to take credit for “federating” when they have no intention of allowing it to get out of their control.
I see why you think that, and I agree threads sucks. But bsky is actually fully open source and they are actively working to make federation better. I do think the current leadership genuinely cares about making a federated platform.
Will they enshittify? Yes, probably when the current ceo leaves. But by then other services will have popped up, and ATproto is built in such a way that you can move services without your current service’s consent.
Interesting idea here.