What is the dead-simple(est) way to onboard compeltely new people to Lemmy/Feddy
from cheese_greater@lemmy.world to fediverse@lemmy.world on 05 May 19:41
https://lemmy.world/post/29182170

cross-posted from: lemmy.world/post/29182109

Flowpath to have a Lemmy account for complete Newb

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warmaster@lemmy.world on 05 May 20:05 next collapse

What do you mean? It’s just like signing up for an email account, and you get access to a forum like experience. Same thing for any other fedi app but the UI looks like something else.

cheese_greater@lemmy.world on 05 May 20:14 collapse

  1. Give me a numbered bullet most concise path to do that
  2. thanks
kurikai@lemmy.world on 05 May 20:24 next collapse

Start sharing lemmy posts with them. Don’t tell them to join up. Just like the best way to get someone to listen to a song is just yo play it when they are around, rather then telling them to listen to it.

Agent_Karyo@lemmy.world on 05 May 20:27 next collapse

  1. Sign up on lemmy.world
  2. Pick some communities to subscribe on lemmy.world/communities?listingType=All&sort=TopM…
  3. For mobile get the “Voyager on Lemmy” app (available on Android/iOS) and log in with your lemmy.world account.
Snoopy@tarte.nuage-libre.fr on 06 May 05:53 collapse

I wouldn't recommand lemmy.world there are lot instance they can pick up 😅

Agent_Karyo@lemmy.world on 06 May 06:23 collapse

LW is fine. This a community dedicated to a niche video-game genre. The community already existed, just had very few posts.

Snoopy@tarte.nuage-libre.fr on 06 May 08:27 collapse

Yes but the problem is the centralization and they may want an instance with their own language and culture. I think LW is too big and should be redistributed to other instance. But it is also a good starting pack. :)

Agent_Karyo@lemmy.world on 06 May 08:37 collapse

Replacing LW with another option works too.

I strongly believe any discussion around federation/centralization should be avoided when bringing in new users. They will figure it out themselves and if they feel like it make adjustments accordingly.

Snoopy@tarte.nuage-libre.fr on 06 May 09:24 next collapse

You are right we shouldn't explain federation. But tell them for example with PieFed, they can watch peertube video, comment to mastodon group...but not federation. For me, it is the strongest point of the fediverse.

As for the instance, it would be great if they have an instance picker : what are your language ? Favorite topic ? Then give them several instance.

nutomic@lemmy.ml on 06 May 10:21 collapse

join-lemmy.org has such an instance picker.

Snoopy@tarte.nuage-libre.fr on 06 May 13:06 collapse

Yep exactly that would be fairer and more equitable that way :)

asudox@lemmy.asudox.dev on 06 May 11:42 collapse

I strongly believe any discussion around federation/centralization should be avoided when bringing in new users. They will figure it out themselves and if they

I disagree. Most won’t.

It’s better to tell them about federation and decentralization before they join and start asking why there are duplicate communities with the same name (I’ve seen people asking similar questions about the absolute basics of federation here before in some communities). Not in detail, but enough to give them the basic idea.

And if they find it “difficult”, then we already prevented someone from wasting storage space when they would leave the fediverse after a few days anyway.

the_abecedarian@piefed.social on 05 May 20:27 next collapse

  1. Send them links to posts they would like
  2. Goto 1
4Robato@lemmy.world on 05 May 20:33 next collapse

There’s no easy or hard way, if they are willing to join they will.

Why are you in Lemmy? Explain your reasons to them and why you decided to join and hopefully they understand and join too, that’s all you can do. Forcing people into the Fediverse won’t make them use it of they don’t believe in it.

cheese_greater@lemmy.world on 05 May 20:36 collapse

I honestly was fucking pissed at Reddit for destroying Apollo so I read a headline about a burgeoning alternative that was fundamentally different in spirit if not in letter from Reddit

4Robato@lemmy.world on 06 May 09:53 collapse

Yup indeed!

I think talking openly about the issues to people and explaining there are better ways that exist is the way to go. If they are in with the idea entering the Fediverse is a no brainer.

For me it’s crazy how many public institutions are on private social medias and not open ones where they can set their own server and rules. It’s also crazy how social norms have been decided by the top private companies in the world, if that’s not a distopian I don’t know what is it.

Kolanaki@pawb.social on 05 May 20:39 next collapse

Give them an instance you think they’d vibe with and tell them to check it out. I know some instances make joining way more complicated than it needs to be or has you write a whole freakin’ essay; but most don’t and are just as easy to sign up and start using as Reddit or other SM.

Unless they are into that kind of thing, don’t talk about federation. The number of comments I’ve seen on various other sites discussing Lemmy confused about how federation works and what it means is extremely high, and for the average person it doesn’t matter. Focus on the the general user experience, and not the tech running it. Especially if you’re trying to convince “normies.”

j4k3@lemmy.world on 05 May 20:41 next collapse

Share something useful from Lemmy with someone not on Lemmy, when that something does not also contain toxic negativity or vitriol, but is positive, inclusive, and cordial.

Temperche@discuss.tchncs.de on 05 May 20:42 next collapse

Send them to lemmyverse.net

goofus@lemmy.today on 05 May 21:03 next collapse

To show them what Lemmy is, link them to lemmy.world/?dataType=Post&listingType=All&sort=N…

The important thing is to link them to the “New” page, because the Active page doesn’t change that frequently.

Then if they are interested, show them how to sign up for an account at Lemmy World, how to join communities, how to block communities and how to comment and post.

rglullis@communick.news on 05 May 21:28 next collapse

Nothing can be easier than going to portal.alien.top, signing up with your Reddit account and seeing your account already subscribed to communities corresponding to your favorite subreddits.

hitstun@fedia.io on 06 May 06:59 collapse

That sounds cool, but it's broken for me. The Reddit login page gives me a 500 server error. I want to point my old subreddit at my Mbin magazine, but it seems to require logging in with Reddit to do much of anything.

rglullis@communick.news on 06 May 09:12 collapse

I will take a look at the login issue. Seems like I need to update alien.top to a more recent version of Lemmy.

If you already have a Fedi account and just want to help with the community mapping, please take a look at fediverser.network. The “fediversed” instances (like alien.top) can update their own mapping based on changes from fediverser.network, so any on one place can be used by admins elsewhere.

Fitik@fedia.io on 05 May 21:46 next collapse

There's a whole community dedicated to this topic -
!fedibridge

nokturne213@sopuli.xyz on 05 May 22:50 next collapse

join-lemmy.org worked for me. I had never heard of Lemmy before someone sent a modmail to a sub that I moderate. They told us about beehaw I think, then join Lemmy. I went I joined and I have been here since.

hitstun@fedia.io on 06 May 07:17 next collapse

I send people links to Photon to show people how nice everything is here. Concise, typeable URLs help where possible.

SpicyColdFartChamber@lemm.ee on 06 May 09:49 collapse

The domain names don’t seem very inviting.

hitstun@fedia.io on 06 May 16:50 next collapse

They can't all be spectra.video or lethallava.land . We need a Lemmy instance with some real market research money going into the domain.

SpicyColdFartChamber@lemm.ee on 06 May 19:10 collapse

Are spectra.video and lethallava.land special? Idk about them.

Also didn’t mean to diss you, just that, I as a new person to lemmy would have avoided them. There’s a mix of rational and irrational fear for weird looking links in me.

Xylight@lemm.ee on 06 May 17:10 collapse

Some awful domain parker yoinked photon.app and i’ll forever hold a grudge against all domain parkers

Fizz@lemmy.nz on 06 May 10:25 next collapse

Just send them a link to Lemmy.world with whatever frontend you think they’d like best.

asudox@lemmy.asudox.dev on 06 May 11:36 collapse

LW is bigger than it should be. Direct them to some other instance.

railcar@midwest.social on 06 May 13:18 collapse

Mass adoption won’t come easily. People treat social media just like broadcast and print mass media: they want to follow big names and brands. It’s a change in mindset looking for niche communities instead. Look at Bluesky, it didn’t really take off until big Twitter accounts moved and brought their minions with them.