Karma in lemmy?
from aprehendedmerlin@lemmy.dbzer0.com to fediverse@lemmy.world on 19 Feb 07:21
https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/38168004
from aprehendedmerlin@lemmy.dbzer0.com to fediverse@lemmy.world on 19 Feb 07:21
https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/38168004
Hi guys just wanted to know if Lemmy has any karma count for people in their profile like Reddit has? If so is it public and How can I access it? Edit: Thanks guys I’m so relieved that this kind of stuff is not prevalent here. I love the Fediverse ❤️
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Nope. Post and comment scores are just that - scores. They have zero impact on your account or you standing on your instance. Whether you care about them or not is entirely up to you.
There are exceptions, I think Piefed (see !piefed_meta@piefed.social ) calculates and uses it in a couple ways.
And some communities like !pleasantpolitics@slrpnk.net autoban people with low karma scores I think. Using !santabot@slrpnk.net.
Thanks for the heads up on which instances to avoid!!
slrpnk.net in general is a good instance.
This is just a single community in the instance.
And PieFed is a software that is compatible with lemmy. So basically it’s a whole bunch of instances that run piefed, not just one.
And “karma” per say isn’t calculated on piefed, just users who get more downvotes than upvotes on most their comments lose some priviledges.
I dont mind piefeds version since its only negative for ppl getting primarily downvotes, there isnt a boost for high upvotes
People getting massdownvoted here to the point of having negative overall rep tend to be an issue
TBH: It does sound bad, but it is one of the best ways to lower the effort needed for moderating. Currently every idiot from every instance can show up in your community and start spamming. You have to clean up after you’re back from work and have other things to do. Set a reasonable limit on account age and karma and that will keep the biggest idiots, because they will be banned or downvoted to oblivion before they can start posting in your turf.
AFAIK it used to exist but was removed to avoid recreating stuff like karma farming and minimum karma limits. But it would be pretty easy to make a bash script that manually calculates the karma score
I know some clients show that, but the culture here is generally quite against the concept. Tends to lead to people being scared of going against the majority and creates a hive mind mentality to keep karma high.
Hive mind mentality sums up Reddit culture pretty accurately. so happy to be here
Unfortunately you’re not out of the weeds yet. Lemmy has plenty of hive mind mentality
Atleast it’s not rewarding (hypothetically) like Reddit
I mean, it’s the same, except you don’t get a total number across all your posts.
The hive mind is here as well.
It changes from server to server and community to community. It's important to keep in mind that a world news community is not only a world news community; it's a world news community hosted at a specific instance. Some of them will be run better than others, and if one gets the feeling one community attracts the wrong audience one might be better off avoiding it and checking if someone has already started an alternative community somewhere else.
That, and blocking people who make no valuable contribution.
Yeah I get it. I guess that’s just what people are. We crave being approved by other
Definitely, only difference is here you don’t get banned at the speed of light if your opinion doesn’t fit the group.
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Cannot agree more. I say things all the time here that people hate and downvote me for but the numbers are even more useless here than on Reddit so it’s difficult to care.
Don’t get me started on Karma farming bots. A Karma system does more harm than good.
“☝️🤓 you do not have enough karma to post in this community!” Well what the fuck community am I supposed to post in when all the ones I want to post in won’t let me!?
Reminds me of this. <img alt="" src="https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/pictrs/image/bec2451c-41b6-4f37-943c-8ac9649e10d9.webp">
I think it's useful to quickly check if a user is trolling, but you can always just look at their recent activity.
In short… no, Lemmy developers believe the karma mechanics on reddit incentivize bad behavior. (IE making bots or even just yourself re-creating past succesful posts) or just posting the obvious ideas that one assumes everyone is going to upvote etc…
This is what my Mbin instance profile view shows me:
I'm under the impression the reputation points are either the combined number of upvotes or that minus downvotes, but I don't know. Also, this is an Mbin instance but it's fully federated with Lemmy instances so usually no one separates "Lemmy" and "Mbin" ...
If it is the same as for me it should be the sum of your posts and comments. What and how popular wouldn’t matter, just each submission equals one point.
No that's not it. With the two upvotes I have on the post above that number is now shown as 4118.
Not sure what you mean with "if it is the same as for me", considering you're on Lemmy which doesn't have a feature like this.
But it being the sum of posts and comments is verifiably false. My instance knows of 6 posts and 809 comments of yours. Your home instance reports 17 posts and 2.27k comments. Either way, your karma is 8686, which isn't the sum of either of those.
I have a sum total displayed in my profile which works as I described, and assumed that is what everyone gets to see.
Huh, I assume that only appears while logged in then. Since I checked your profile on your home instance before writing that comment and didn't see anything (and still don't).
It does indeed seem to not be a thing even on all Lemmy instances, as my lemm.ee account (which runs the same version as lemmy.zip) doesn't have such a number displayed anywhere.
Thinking of it perhaps it is the client I use that does it, voyager. I have never not been using it ever since I joined lemmy so i often forget that i might have a different experience than other users.
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karma makes reddit worse. Up/downvotes are great but overall account karma is fucking terrible.
It encourages shitposting, high karma almost always was related to memes, not being helpful
As a recovering karma whore, I can attest to this.
I was super active in drama subs because I am a drama whore at heart. I knew how to just farm karma on them. Lukewarm take with just enough ability to be disageed with that the “bad” people will interact driving up the interactions.
All you gotta do is post stuff like “thank you to the brave firefighters” on posts involving firefighters. Not knocking on firefighters or trying to diminish their contributions, but it was always hilarious seeing how many top comments basically said nothing more than that. I was always doing it as satire but I don’t think people realized.
You just received five MeowMeowBeanz.
What’s the conversion rate of one MeowMeowBeanz to one Schrute buck?
Lemmy doesn't, but other platforms like Mbin might show your total karma among posts federated with that instance.
The instance I'm on tells me your karma is 462.
How much is mine 😋 ?
25332
Wow, thanks!
Yeah better keep that hidden that I spend so much time here 😅
Keep in mind, it's not a real score. That's only what that user sees, based on upvotes from servers their instance is federated with. My instance is federated with a different list of servers, so my score for you is slightly different at 25584. Somebody on a third mbin instance will likely see a similar, but still different score.
Sure, I’m just thinking about the magnitude.
Yeah, I did check fedia.io with the intention of mentioning their score there too, but imo the difference between 25584 and 25332 is too miniscule for that.
I guess that’s OK. Atleast it’s not everywhere like Reddit
Note that, at least for people using mbins, _ upvotes are public_ and while downvotes are hidden (Which is weird IMO), instance admins, and people who know how to use lemmy's software API, can access them.
There is no karma counter builtin, but it is also not something hard to implement. But I remember an chromium/firefox extension displaying it. “Karma” in Lemmy can be calculated manually though.
Imo post/comment scores should be hidden too. I’ve turned them off in my app and it makes for much calmer browsing
There is ni such thing on Lemmy unfortunatly, there is on PieFed…
Let’s not follow into Reddits footsteps.
If you need fake Internet points to motivate you to be a good person then you are probably not a good person.
I’m not saying you specifically OP, but just in general. If karma was the only reason someone was civil on reddit that gives off the same vibes as the people who ask why we aren’t out raping and murdering if we don’t believe in God.
100% agreed. I mostly hate karma because it makes a hive mind mentality since everyone is scared to speak against the norm
You can view your individual comments’ scores, but there is no built in summation across comments you can view.