halcyoncmdr@lemmy.world
on 19 Jan 08:19
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Yeah. You might want to look into some other foreign owned companies as well. Tencent owns a metric shit ton of “American” companies for instance, I bet there’s several on that list that would surprise you.
Tencent happen to own large portions of nearly every video game company on the planet to start with, and a ton of other large companies, 600+ of them in fact. Large enough positions to directly affect board decisions if they wanted to. And that assumes overt sudden changes and not more subtle things.
Voroxpete@sh.itjust.works
on 19 Jan 11:53
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IIRC the reason for this is that China requires that games published there be published by entities that are at least some arbitrary percentage Chinese owned. So basically if you want access to that huge market - that loves video games - you have to cut a deal with Tencent or someone else like them.
CosmicTurtle0@lemmy.dbzer0.com
on 19 Jan 12:24
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I recall that tencent had like a small stake in Reddit too. Like 10% or something like that. Or am I remembering wrong?
LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.world
on 20 Jan 06:13
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You care nothing of freedoms do you? I don’t use either of these apps but I still think it is outrageous to strip people’s ability to choose their actions because politicians are worried they can’t control enough of the media.
The bill very explicitly calls out ByteDance and any website, desktop application, mobile application, or augmented or immersive technology application owned by them.
Hmm, I may be reading it wrong, but it’s just talking about the distribution/updating of foreign controlled applications. Based on what I’ve seen Marvel Snap isnt controlled by them, they just provide services for the application, so it wouldn’t technically apply. However, I’m not a lawyer and may have the wrong read on the app, but given the game developers were surprised I’d think that’s the right read.
They did. And they’re already are rolling it back, specifically thanking trump for helping to “restore service”. It was all a political stunt, and nobody’s gonna care cause their skinner button got turned back on again.
CurlyWurlies4All@slrpnk.net
on 19 Jan 19:27
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They targeted gamers.
Gamers.
We’re a group of people who will sit for hours, days, even weeks on end performing some of the hardest, most mentally demanding tasks. Over, and over, and over all for nothing more than a little digital token saying we did.
We’ll punish our selfs doing things others would consider torture, because we think it’s fun.
We’ll spend most if not all of our free time min maxing the stats of a fictional character all to draw out a single extra point of damage per second.
Many of us have made careers out of doing just these things: slogging through the grind, all day, the same quests over and over, hundreds of times to the point where we know evety little detail such that some have attained such gamer nirvana that they can literally play these games blindfolded.
Do these people have any idea how many controllers have been smashed, systems over heated, disks and carts destroyed 8n frustration? All to latter be referred to as bragging rights?
These people honestly think this is a battle they can win? They take our media? We’re already building a new one without them. They take our devs? Gamers aren’t shy about throwing their money else where, or even making the games our selves. They think calling us racist, mysoginistic, rape apologists is going to change us? We’ve been called worse things by prepubescent 10 year olds with a shitty head set. They picked a fight against a group that’s already grown desensitized to their strategies and methods. Who enjoy the battle of attrition they’ve threatened us with. Who take it as a challange when they tell us we no longer matter. Our obsession with proving we can after being told we can’t is so deeply ingrained from years of dealing with big brothers/sisters and friends laughing at how pathetic we used to be that proving you people wrong has become a very real need; a honed reflex.
Gamers are competative, hard core, by nature. We love a challange. The worst thing you did in all of this was to challange us. You’re not special, you’re not original, you’re not the first; this is just another boss fight.
Jimmyeatsausage@lemmy.world
on 19 Jan 20:40
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Sir, this is a Wendy’s…
EncryptKeeper@lemmy.world
on 19 Jan 22:24
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Certified classic
CurlyWurlies4All@slrpnk.net
on 19 Jan 23:09
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My favourite part is “challenge” being misspelt multiple times. It’s just chefs kiss
thermal_shock@lemmy.world
on 19 Jan 23:15
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huh, had no idea it was made by bytedance as well
Yeah. You might want to look into some other foreign owned companies as well. Tencent owns a metric shit ton of “American” companies for instance, I bet there’s several on that list that would surprise you.
Tencent I’m aware of, there was quite a bit of controversy about them a few years back
Tencent happen to own large portions of nearly every video game company on the planet to start with, and a ton of other large companies, 600+ of them in fact. Large enough positions to directly affect board decisions if they wanted to. And that assumes overt sudden changes and not more subtle things.
IIRC the reason for this is that China requires that games published there be published by entities that are at least some arbitrary percentage Chinese owned. So basically if you want access to that huge market - that loves video games - you have to cut a deal with Tencent or someone else like them.
I recall that tencent had like a small stake in Reddit too. Like 10% or something like that. Or am I remembering wrong?
They invested money, I don’t remember hearing that it got them any share of the company.
That’s typically what you get in return for an investment. The only question is if it’s enough of a share to give control or at least influence.
As of their last filing in September it is 10 to 12%
dear God, please let League of Legends get banned, it would be so funny
It’s not made by Bytedance. It’s made by one company and published by a second, different company who is owned by Bytedance.
Not made by, the studio is “second dinner” the same guys that made hearthstone, but in their own studio.
Who cares. Find a new game.
You care nothing of freedoms do you? I don’t use either of these apps but I still think it is outrageous to strip people’s ability to choose their actions because politicians are worried they can’t control enough of the media.
“Find a new game” is just “fall in line”
They’re not banning Mastodon, or the Fediverse, or EU based messaging apps.
i.e. the objection is not that the US government doesn’t control it, but that the Chinese government does.
Oh damn it affects CapCut. Glad I’m not American, I’d have hated to lose that.
Glad I moved on to davinci a couple months ago, f davinci for taking away the free user created addons tho, its only in premium now
I love DaVinci, but if I’m doing something quicker on my iPad I prefer CC
Man, even the government are tried of capeshit.
It actually looks like ByteDance is blocking them to generate uproar. The law only required to remove the app from app store
It prohibits other companies from providing support services to them too.
Why does nearly everything entertaining support oligarchs
Nevermind, rhetorical question. There’s no ethical consumption yadayada
You have it backwards, oligarchs are controlling the media
Yea. Backwards samewards, omnidirectionally
Yeah, oligarchs are controlling the media they own, and consuming their media supports oligarchs.
What part of what they said was backwards?
Hopefully they ban marvel rivals too.
Rivals isn’t that bad. It has its issues but it doesn’t warrant a ban
And nothing of value was lost.
I dunno about that.
There’s gonna be a bunch of angry Unstable 12yos uncertain what to do now that their gacha crack was torn away from them.
Crack taken away from children, what of value was lost again?
I see you never taken crack away from a fiend. It’s not what’s immediately lost, but the destruction along the way
Here you go chief! And so the withdrawal begins!
slrpnk.net/post/17466143
Also impacted, 40 year old farty dads
Their parents should find something else for them to stare at mindlessly for hours
Time to switch to Marvel Flatpak
finally, I was getting tired of using Marvel AppImage in protest of snaps! :P
I’m still playing Marvel Strike Force. The dev has become Ahab hunting whales, but it passes the time
Rumor mill is already spreading like wildfire.
Commenters are concerned about League of Legends and every other Chinese owned game studio without a US backer.
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Trump will fix this. After a small payment from the companies. And then just ignoring the law.
Its almost like there are consequences of banning something folks don’t understand the full scope of…
I’ll add, “my government might get pissed off at one of the companies involved” to my list of reasons why always-online games are a terrible idea.
Why wouldn’t a multiplayer-focused game be always online?
Self-hostable servers, this way if their datacenters go down, game is still playable
Another commenter already gave you the answer, but it truly sucks that we’ve gotten so used to this that you can’t imagine an alternative.
LAN play
Or “the company might get pissy with your government for any reason”. No reason to let them off the hook, either.
This feels like ByteDance going out of their way to paint the outgoing president and party as truly awful and give the victory to Trump in a week
I think they know that saying “you’ll look better than Biden” is a great way to manipulate trump into doing just about anything.
It absolutely was.
I feel like bytedance is doing this on purpose to rule people up, as these kinds of services weren’t explicity called out.
It may backfire though. I don’t think most Americans know how much is influenced/owned by Chinese companies.
The bill very explicitly calls out ByteDance and any website, desktop application, mobile application, or augmented or immersive technology application owned by them.
www.congress.gov/118/…/BILLS-118hr7521rfs.pdf
Hmm, I may be reading it wrong, but it’s just talking about the distribution/updating of foreign controlled applications. Based on what I’ve seen Marvel Snap isnt controlled by them, they just provide services for the application, so it wouldn’t technically apply. However, I’m not a lawyer and may have the wrong read on the app, but given the game developers were surprised I’d think that’s the right read.
They did. And they’re already are rolling it back, specifically thanking trump for helping to “restore service”. It was all a political stunt, and nobody’s gonna care cause their skinner button got turned back on again.
They targeted gamers.
Gamers.
We’re a group of people who will sit for hours, days, even weeks on end performing some of the hardest, most mentally demanding tasks. Over, and over, and over all for nothing more than a little digital token saying we did.
We’ll punish our selfs doing things others would consider torture, because we think it’s fun.
We’ll spend most if not all of our free time min maxing the stats of a fictional character all to draw out a single extra point of damage per second.
Many of us have made careers out of doing just these things: slogging through the grind, all day, the same quests over and over, hundreds of times to the point where we know evety little detail such that some have attained such gamer nirvana that they can literally play these games blindfolded.
Do these people have any idea how many controllers have been smashed, systems over heated, disks and carts destroyed 8n frustration? All to latter be referred to as bragging rights?
These people honestly think this is a battle they can win? They take our media? We’re already building a new one without them. They take our devs? Gamers aren’t shy about throwing their money else where, or even making the games our selves. They think calling us racist, mysoginistic, rape apologists is going to change us? We’ve been called worse things by prepubescent 10 year olds with a shitty head set. They picked a fight against a group that’s already grown desensitized to their strategies and methods. Who enjoy the battle of attrition they’ve threatened us with. Who take it as a challange when they tell us we no longer matter. Our obsession with proving we can after being told we can’t is so deeply ingrained from years of dealing with big brothers/sisters and friends laughing at how pathetic we used to be that proving you people wrong has become a very real need; a honed reflex.
Gamers are competative, hard core, by nature. We love a challange. The worst thing you did in all of this was to challange us. You’re not special, you’re not original, you’re not the first; this is just another boss fight.
Sir, this is a Wendy’s…
Certified classic
My favourite part is “challenge” being misspelt multiple times. It’s just chefs kiss
copypasta approved