We’re Suing Minecraft in a Class Action Lawsuit (www.youtube.com)
from Occhioverde@feddit.it to games@lemmy.world on 16 Aug 21:36
https://feddit.it/post/20738585

cross-posted from: feddit.it/post/20737894

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ampersandrew@lemmy.world on 16 Aug 21:55 next collapse

This is awful and stupid. Godspeed, plaintiffs.

capt_wolf@lemmy.world on 16 Aug 22:40 next collapse

Going to copy my post over from the original for anyone wondering why because the description does nothing to explain:

I watched a few minutes of it and finally got to it… If I got it right, the guy suing them wanted to make a mod with guns. Mojang said no and got it shut down. He’s suing because he believes a company shouldn’t have any say over how users might modify their games.

tal@lemmy.today on 16 Aug 23:00 next collapse

He could install Luanti and mod to his heart’s content.

Like, legality aside, he’s fighting to add value to a game whose publisher has tried to prevent him.

ampersandrew@lemmy.world on 16 Aug 23:28 next collapse

I’d say he’s fighting to keep what was legally promised to him in the contract provided to customers.

TimeNaan@lemmy.world on 17 Aug 07:38 collapse

Yeah, you can install multiple gun mods right from the menu.

Zorsith@lemmy.blahaj.zone on 16 Aug 23:38 next collapse

Isnt it like, over a decade too late for mojang to complain about a gun mod in minecraft? That ship has long since sailed

joyjoy@lemmy.zip on 16 Aug 23:57 collapse

Nobody can stop you from making a Java Edition mod. The only thing you can’t do is sell it.

joyjoy@lemmy.zip on 16 Aug 23:56 collapse

Since they need permission, I can only assume they want to sell their mod on the bedrock marketplace. I thought Microsoft controlled that.

shneancy@lemmy.world on 17 Aug 00:38 collapse

there’s 11 pages of results if you search “gun” through Modrinth, you’re absolutely correct

the marketplace is “curated” mods, if the guy wants to make paid mods that go against the “curation” he’s gotta make a patreon or something, and handle his own marketing for it

Cocodapuf@lemmy.world on 17 Aug 04:25 next collapse

Seems a stupid thing to sue about. Microsoft has rules about the content you want to sell through them, the content they’re essentially endorsing.

That sounds reasonable.

If you want to make something outside their content limits and you expect them to endorse it… Why? That’s not how anything works.

echodot@feddit.uk on 17 Aug 08:31 collapse

Which was what was done with the weather mod. Mojang didn’t like it because what people really want for weather mod is hurricanes, mojang don’t like anything too destructive like that which you can kind of understand, you can’t really do a normal playthrough with it on.

It makes it a totally different game.

But I don’t think anyone really cared and I don’t think it’s had a particularly adverse reaction on the mod developer, they’ve got plenty of backers I doubt there’s any interest in suing mojang over it.

magnetosphere@fedia.io on 17 Aug 00:59 next collapse

Huh. I think he’s got some good arguments. I wish him luck!

slowcakes@programming.dev on 17 Aug 03:53 next collapse

Lmao, the way the video is cut made it impossible to watch, it’s so bad. Why cut every pause between Words, that is probably a lot of work to make the video shitier.

Eyck_of_denesle@lemmy.zip on 17 Aug 07:17 next collapse

Mr Beast has done unrepairable damage

Zahille7@lemmy.world on 17 Aug 14:21 collapse

Almost all YouTubers do it, especially video essayists and vloggers. I think they’re cutting out anytime they pause or say “um” to keep the video going so there’s not a lot of bullshit.

But who actually knows, I’m just guessing.

brucethemoose@lemmy.world on 17 Aug 14:37 collapse

I only appreciate this because I hate watching videos of, and prefer reading text on subjects like this. Videos are so much slower.

chameleon@fedia.io on 17 Aug 05:20 next collapse

For the benefit of people that can't watch this horrible video:

This is really about them being able to change the already extremely vague terms of service and you having no recourse other than voiding your purchase if you don't like it. There is some focus on a gun thing early on, but it's just an example where they flip-flopped multiple times over the years based on vague wording in the ToS that was changed after the fact. Commercial modded server owners were the main ones that had to make changes because of that rule, often taking guns away from players that had them, but it's generally enforced very inconsistently.

But the main thing they're focusing on in the lawsuit is the mass deletion of legitimately bought Minecraft copies when they stopped Mojang account migration in 2023 (everyone that didn't migrate then no longer owns Minecraft according to Microsoft; no refunds). That, too, was effectively a one-sided ToS change. And to make matters worse, the old ToS had an explicit clause that you could keep playing the game in singleplayer even without agreeing to any new ToS.

This lawsuit is being done in Sweden. I don't know if this kind of ToS/contract validity has actually been tested there before.

I think this is the first time I ever watched a video at 0.5 speed. "this was done due to retention purposes for the video to maximize spread potential". Yeeeaaaah. No. Checked reddit, it's downvoted to the negatives over form. Checked a different place that would be all over this, entire topic is discussing the form and there's not one mention of what it's about because nobody got that far. The exact kind of person that might take time out of their day to join a class action is not going to watch this garbage. I think it's good to have this tested, but I straight up don't trust this guy. Supposedly maximizing views while getting zero information through to anyone is not going to help the cause.

CheeseNoodle@lemmy.world on 17 Aug 06:12 next collapse

Happened to me, happened again with KSP, I will own nothing and be kinda pissed off about it apparently.

brucethemoose@lemmy.world on 17 Aug 14:35 collapse

I think this is the first time I ever watched a video at 0.5 speed.

I actually sped up the video to 1.5X because there was no text article as an alternative…

Is it really that bad? The point was pretty articulate to me.

devolution@lemmy.world on 17 Aug 13:29 collapse

Why can’t children simply have something they enjoy without some fuckards trying to ruin it?

Like minecraft doesn’t need guns. Or blood. Or pedos. They got Roblox for that.

brucethemoose@lemmy.world on 17 Aug 14:33 collapse

We’re talking about a modder making something as a hobby/passion project, not some suit trying to push that to everyone.