Splatoon 3: After 2 INK-redible years, regular updates will come to a close. (files.catbox.moe)
from simple@lemm.ee to games@lemmy.world on 16 Sep 13:13
https://lemm.ee/post/42430105

After 2 INK-credible years of Splatoon 3, regular updates will come to a close. Don’t worry! Splatoween, Frosty Fest, Spring Fest, and Summer Nights will continue with some returning themes!

Updates for weapon adjustments will be released as needed.

Big Run, Eggstra Work, and Monthly Challenges will continue for the time being.

Also they just released a video celebrating each splat-fest: www.youtube.com/watch?v=cd3qYJRnI7E

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missingno@fedia.io on 16 Sep 13:26 next collapse

They really made sure to reference the number 3 in every possible place except the kit system.

JusticeForPorygon@lemmy.world on 16 Sep 13:28 next collapse

I’ve still never played a splatoon game, mostly because I don’t wanna have to re-purchase it after a couple years

lowleveldata@programming.dev on 16 Sep 13:40 next collapse

You can keep playing it tho?

TachyonTele@lemm.ee on 16 Sep 14:12 next collapse

The second game was around for well over two years.

Needing to buy an online subscription is a far better complaint than a misinformed timeline.

missingno@fedia.io on 16 Sep 14:47 next collapse

S2 was 2017, S3 was 2022. Five year gap is pretty reasonable for sequels.

S4 likely won't happen until after the next Animal Crossing, since it's the same team working on both IPs.

Renacles@lemmy.world on 16 Sep 15:18 collapse

My issue with that is that Splatoon basically dies off for a few years until a sequel comes out. I’m not playing for switch online for a game that won’t get any new content.

missingno@fedia.io on 16 Sep 17:07 collapse

How many years do you expect them to keep pumping out content for the same game? They've gotta wrap it up somewhere. Two years is plenty.

Back in my day, games were released and we played them for what they were.

Renacles@lemmy.world on 16 Sep 22:19 collapse

I would be happy with that if Nintendo didn’t charge a yearly fee for online.

BossDj@lemm.ee on 16 Sep 14:52 next collapse

Are you imagining that this game should be like those constantly updating online games that rely on micro transactions or monthly subscription? It was a game to buy full price, but got updates and events for free for 2 years plus DLCs. The servers and game will still be online getting quality of life and security updates. Splatoon 1 servers were online for 9 years… On Wii U no less.

ampersandrew@lemmy.world on 16 Sep 16:44 collapse

It does rely on a subscription though.

BossDj@lemm.ee on 16 Sep 17:09 collapse

As do nearly all console online games

ampersandrew@lemmy.world on 16 Sep 17:16 collapse

I don’t think that’s a great excuse.

BossDj@lemm.ee on 16 Sep 19:37 collapse

Maybe it isn’t, but it’s hardly a reason to single out this game for it.

ampersandrew@lemmy.world on 16 Sep 19:41 collapse

I don’t think it’s singling it out to say that the just-about-required subscription makes it less appealing to purchase, whereas most multiplayer games have the PC version as an option.

BossDj@lemm.ee on 17 Sep 00:14 collapse

I didn’t know we were playing the PC vs console argument. Nevermind, someone did that in another thread already. Yes PC without subscription is better. But anyone playing anything on a console buys the sequel every few years of whatever the game may be. Which was what I was replying to

ampersandrew@lemmy.world on 17 Sep 02:24 collapse

We weren’t per se. Only that a predominantly multiplayer game is a harder sell when the subscription is damn near mandatory, which is why there are so few multiplayer-only games on consoles that cost money up front anymore, and free to play games get an exception to the subscription service on PlayStation and Xbox.

dinckelman@lemmy.world on 16 Sep 15:55 collapse

I still have yet to understand what is new in Splatoon 3. I play 2 casually, just for a few pvp matches every so often, and it’s good as is

ampersandrew@lemmy.world on 16 Sep 16:43 next collapse

The second game even repurposed large parts of the not-particularly-impressive campaign of the first game. They weren’t going to fool me again by making me buy the same game a third time.

missingno@fedia.io on 16 Sep 17:13 collapse

Large parts? It's been a while since I played Octo Canyon, but I'm pretty sure the only thing that reappeared from Valley was the Octostomp boss, but it's a different fight anyway so not really.

missingno@fedia.io on 16 Sep 17:16 collapse

It's an iterative series, each game building on the predecessor's mechanics, so there's not any one major twist. But there are a lot of little things that add up. The new movement techniques are great, Salmon Run has been significantly expanded, and just in general the QoL is night and day.

Also, the fact that Ink Armor, Sting Ray, and Main Power Up are not in the game might be the true biggest step forward. S3's meta is in a pretty good spot now.

Caesium@lemmy.world on 16 Sep 16:37 next collapse

I hope they never try this 3-way team thing again. Made Splatfests feel so unfair. Especially with the arbitrary point system they used for calculating things. Kind just felt like they slapped whatever number they wanted to on a category and called it a day.

Last night I took a look at the (US) Splatfests for both 2 and 3. In 2, our of the 25 fests I partook in, my team won 14 teams. Pearl and Marina had an even 15 wins between all the fests.

in 3, I only participated in 16 fests, and my team won 3 times. Not only that, but Shiver’s team won 9 fests, Big Man won 7 and Frye a whopping 3. The balancing in this game felt fucking atrocious and I feel like that killed a lot of my motivation to play.

Now ofc Nintendo can’t really predict what team is gonna win when they make choices, but whatever changes they made to the point system did jack all in fairness in my opinion.

I think I’m just gonna go back to splatoon 2 after this

missingno@fedia.io on 16 Sep 17:09 collapse

It'll never happen, but I'd honestly prefer for S4 to move on from Splatfests and do something else entirely. They've run out of ideas, a lot of the themes feel like filler just to keep it going out of obligation. At this point I just see Splatfests as a weekend where they take away Ranked and make everyone play the worst game mode.

Caesium@lemmy.world on 17 Sep 06:08 next collapse

I like turf war, but I definitely agree. Some kinda big change needs to happen.

I don’t know what would be a cool replacement but then again it’s not my job to think of one lol

ms_lane@lemmy.world on 17 Sep 07:52 collapse

Imagine something like D-Day/Operation Overlord in WW2, but you’ve got 2/3/4 teams trying to fight up a Salmonid beach, big PVE event, but whichever team takes their beachfront first/gets the furthest in within the 3min timer, wins.

SplashJackson@lemmy.ca on 17 Sep 11:02 next collapse

Could barely stand behind their game for two years.

Pathetic.

missingno@fedia.io on 17 Sep 23:32 collapse

Splatoon 1 had one year of content updates. Splatoon 2 had two. And they told us from the start that Splatoon 3 was also going to have two years.

How long do you expect them to keep going for?

SplashJackson@lemmy.ca on 18 Sep 10:33 collapse

Heh, considering the premium people pay for Nintendo games, I’d expect them to stand by their products for longer than a year or two. Wouldn’t you?

missingno@fedia.io on 18 Sep 14:58 collapse

Two years of content seems plenty reasonable. Especially when they said from the start that it would be two years. Games don't need infinite updates forever and ever and ever. Especially when it's not a live service being sustained by microtransactions.

You didn’t answer my question, by the way.

SplashJackson@lemmy.ca on 18 Sep 20:17 collapse

You’re right, I hadn’t actually answered your question - my bad. I don’t expect them to continually update the game; only that they don’t lock out customers from multiplayer. I believe any manufacturer of a given multiplayer game whose official servers are being closed, have a responsibility to release server software, and add a server browser to the game.

I can still play Counter-Strike online, and even Quake 1 and Doom. What gives?

missingno@fedia.io on 18 Sep 20:53 collapse

Oh, did you think the headline meant they were shutting S3 down? Servers will remain up for the foreseeable future, and they'll even still run seasonal Splatfest and Big Run events. They're just done with content updates.

SplashJackson@lemmy.ca on 18 Sep 22:28 collapse

My mistake, I’ve made a mountain of a molehill.

ripripripriprip@lemmy.world on 18 Sep 15:09 collapse

The people in here complaining about getting a full campaign along with PvE and PvP updates over two years for $60 are the reason we’re in this free-to-play, season pass, paid cosmetic hellscape.