‘Unknown 9: Awakening’ Arrives To 200 Steam Players, Poor Reviews (www.forbes.com)
from simple@lemm.ee to games@lemmy.world on 19 Oct 2024 12:17
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You can’t really gauge its Steam reviews because there are only 13(!) total so far, reflective of a game that has launched with just a few hundred players. 224, as I’m writing this article. Sub-Concord levels. Yes. Concord is a unit of measurement now.

The Concord legacy lives on.

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Renacles@lemmy.world on 19 Oct 2024 12:26 next collapse

The article honestly reads like they are glad the game failed.

I haven’t played it but, from reviews, it seems to be a pretty decent AA game with poor marketing.

simple@lemm.ee on 19 Oct 2024 12:42 collapse

The article is tongue in cheek, but I’m not sure where you’re getting “pretty decent AA game” from. It got scathing reviews and has a worse average score than Forespoken. It’s currently mostly negative on Steam so from what it sounds, it seems like a bad game that got zero advertisements because the studio gave up on it.

ampersandrew@lemmy.world on 19 Oct 2024 16:13 next collapse

“Scathing” feels like too strong of a word for this game or Forspoken’s reviews. The majority of them seem to be right around that 7/10 range, and even the 5s share similar language more often than not.

sgnl@midwest.social on 19 Oct 2024 17:13 collapse

Forespokens hatred train was beyond-the-pale ridiculous. If every game was judged / brigaded as harshly as Forspoken was, the AAA game industry would collapse.

And honestly, Forspoken was a really fun game if you focused on what you were doing 99% of the time, which was traversal and combat. The story, quest design and characters were lackluster, but it wasn’t nearly as horrible as people made it out to be.

People robbed themselves.

DarkThoughts@fedia.io on 19 Oct 2024 18:39 next collapse

I had Forspoken on my wishlist for quite a while, as I wanted to form my own opinion on it. Then I tried the demo they released and removed the game shortly after. The combat and travel was so boring, clunky and badly over the top (like a Saiya-jin powering up for 30 minutes to release a wet fart), which just piled on top of the rest of its "mediocrity", which I feel is still generous. The story and characters were just not interesting, nothing really hooked me, which is odd since the trailer and idea of it sounded like it would be completely up my ally. That being said, the amount of woke ragebait posts I've seen were definitely unwarranted and clearly caused by the main protagonist.

Spuddlesv2@lemmy.ca on 20 Oct 2024 01:48 collapse

The demo was terrible. The actual game was good. Not great, but definitely worth playing.

ms_lane@lemmy.world on 21 Oct 2024 07:48 next collapse

*AAAA industry.

They tried to market it as the first AAAA game.

zecg@lemmy.world on 21 Oct 2024 13:37 collapse

People robbed themselves.

Are you fucking kidding me? It’s 79.99€ on Steam and you’re talking as if the opportunity to experience it is lost forever. If it’s worth a cat shit, I’m looking forward to its proper release in 2026 at 15€ or less.

sgnl@midwest.social on 21 Oct 2024 13:55 collapse

Lol, I’m not gonna contest you on the price point. But that’s an issue with every AAA+ game imho. Even I snagged it on sale.

But that’s also not even close to what the review bombing was about.

blunderworld@lemmy.ca on 19 Oct 2024 12:31 next collapse

I follow gaming news pretty closely and I’ve never even heard of this one. Wouldn’t be surprised if the low engagement, at least in part, comes down to poor marketing.

PunchingWood@lemmy.world on 19 Oct 2024 15:25 next collapse

I remember it from one of the recent game conferences, but basically only because of the actress that played in the Witcher show too. Pretty much forgot about it immediately.

mostlikelyaperson@lemmy.world on 20 Oct 2024 12:59 collapse

Same here, and frankly, what kind of title is “Unknown 9: Awakening” supposed to be? That reads like an internal Codename they forgot to change pre-release:

ampersandrew@lemmy.world on 20 Oct 2024 13:20 collapse

It’s part of a transmedia push. It started with a podcast, and they were pushing out a video game, a comic book, and I think a TV show? So they’re trying to keep everything a part of the same brand that hasn’t had time to breathe yet, perhaps rushing out the video game.

garretble@lemmy.world on 19 Oct 2024 14:12 next collapse

Besides the actual quality of the game, it seems like (stupid) people are complaining about DEI in this game? Why?

People are the worst.

PunchingWood@lemmy.world on 19 Oct 2024 15:24 next collapse

From what I know Sweet Baby Inc. is involved. Which is a studio that focuses a lot on DEI when it comes to narratives/story in games.

They already did not have the greatest track record, some good games, but a lot of mediocre and even bad games. It doesn’t necessarily mean that the game scores are related to DEI, but the fact it keeps happening to games they’re involved with says at least something.

ampersandrew@lemmy.world on 19 Oct 2024 16:11 next collapse

The good games they’ve worked on have included some of the most praised games in recent years. If you want to ask why this keeps happening, you have to have massive blinders on to ignore the likes of God of War: Ragnarok and Alan Wake II, both firmly in recent memory, and also realize that basically no writer on earth could save something like Suicide Squad from its criticisms.

PunchingWood@lemmy.world on 19 Oct 2024 16:41 next collapse

Like I said, some good games. Which by the way still received criticism from people about certain DEI related involvements, whether you agree or disagree with that is different thing, but the criticism was there too.

ampersandrew@lemmy.world on 19 Oct 2024 17:19 next collapse

“Criticism” is a charitable word for what that is.

Cethin@lemmy.zip on 19 Oct 2024 23:25 collapse

Anything not about straight white men will have people complaining about DEI bullshit. It’s never a reason a game has failed. They fail because they’re bad games. They might also include DEI stuff, but it’s not the cause.

Edit: correction, those games listed are about straight white men. Anything that includes a character that is not a straight white man will have those people complaining. They’re the most fragile people in the world.

Katana314@lemmy.world on 19 Oct 2024 21:22 collapse

No…TRUE Scotsman uses Sweet Baby Inc!

garretble@lemmy.world on 20 Oct 2024 06:46 collapse

What does “focuses on DEI” even mean? That it has non-white people?

Some stories don’t have straight, white people. That doesn’t mean there’s some agenda going on.

PunchingWood@lemmy.world on 20 Oct 2024 07:48 collapse

It means exactly what DEI is. So yeah, predominantly focusing on non-white people and non-straight people.

They are a studio that consults on specifically this in games they’re collaborating with.

ampersandrew@lemmy.world on 20 Oct 2024 11:52 collapse

They are contract writers for hire, and you have been misled, either intentionally or unintentionally, by the YouTubers you follow. Both Sweet Baby and their clients have denied this interpretation of what they do.

PunchingWood@lemmy.world on 20 Oct 2024 17:19 collapse

Not sure what I’m being misled over? It literally says on Wikipedia as well:

Sweet Baby Inc. is a Canadian narrative development and consultation studio based in Montreal. Founded by former Ubisoft developers, including scriptwriter Kim Belair and product manager David Bédard, the company consults on video game narratives during development to promote diversity, equity, and inclusion within game narratives and studios.

Also, in every game they’ve worked on it’s quite obvious which part they’ve been involved with, based on the above.

But people on this sub really just like to keep shooting the messenger huh 🙄

ampersandrew@lemmy.world on 20 Oct 2024 17:45 collapse

You know that in the wake of Suicide Squad and Saga from Alan Wake II, they stated quite clearly that what was “obviously” their contributions were totally wrong, with Remedy confirming on their end? It may not be inaccurate to state that sensitivity reading or consulting for authenticity when writing diverse characters are services that they offer, but their contributions to each game are not itemized. It’s like when a bad port happens and people see Iron Galaxy in the credits, they want to see this pattern of Iron Galaxy being responsible rather than <beloved creator of game you like> and then throw out any evidence of Iron Galaxy actually being a really good port studio. I get that you want to form patterns of why something you perceive to be wrong is happening, but the truth is that these companies’ contributions are not itemized, because video games work more like a traditional business than Hollywood, and it’s no one’s policy to break out which work was done by a contractor versus in-house, so you’ll actually never know. Instead, Endymion, or whoever it is you watch that picked up on the week’s trending rage bait topic, cosplays as a journalist and infers a whole lot of what Sweet Baby does that they just didn’t do, whereas an actual journalist would get quotes from sources to confirm that it’s true.

Mellow12@lemmy.world on 20 Oct 2024 05:50 next collapse

What is the actual quality of the game?

Did you know about this game? Did you buy and play this game? Did you actually like this game?

Are you one of the ~220 people who bought this game and didn’t spread the word to their friends.

It sounds to me like this game sucks. Maybe it was rotten from the start. Maybe they were forced to hire a bunch of mentally ill people with a massive chip on their shoulder to ‘advise’ and change the game to tick some boxes on a list. ( don’t you just love having fun according to a list of prescribed requirements? ) I bet the people working on it like that. Talk about a soul sucking job without passion. We will probably never know the truth.

indog@lemmy.ca on 20 Oct 2024 17:37 collapse

You’re parroting the line of dumb conspiracy theories known as Gamergate 2 pushed by a bunch of grifters farming engagement on YouTube.

Narrative consultancy companies like SBI don’t force you to hire them, and if you choose to hire them, you don’t have to follow all of their advice.

If you’re interesting in curing yourself of the mindworms the YouTube algorithm has planted in your brain, please check this out: www.youtube.com/watch?v=CGmESJM6BFQ

PunkiBas@lemmy.world on 20 Oct 2024 08:55 collapse

What does DEI stand for? Urbandictionary was completely unhelpful with it

LunarLoony@lemmy.sdf.org on 20 Oct 2024 09:10 collapse

Diversity, equality, and inclusion. All very terrible things, as you can see…

altima_neo@lemmy.zip on 19 Oct 2024 15:18 next collapse

Sweet Baby strikes again

ampersandrew@lemmy.world on 19 Oct 2024 16:14 collapse

Remember that when Indiana Jones comes back with 8s and 9s.

PunchingWood@lemmy.world on 19 Oct 2024 16:51 collapse

That feels like very optimistic wishful thinking.

ampersandrew@lemmy.world on 19 Oct 2024 17:19 collapse

Does it? It’s the people who made two very highly regarded Wolfenstein games making another game like those but with Indiana Jones.

MolochAlter@lemmy.world on 19 Oct 2024 22:48 collapse

Fuck I hope not, Indiana Jones absolutely should not be a shooter.

ampersandrew@lemmy.world on 19 Oct 2024 22:53 collapse

I think it’s pretty clear what the game is from the trailers, and it looks awesome. Hopefully the temple puzzles are actual puzzles, as opposed to something like Uncharted where Drake always has the answers in his deus ex machina book.

FatherGascown@lemmy.world on 19 Oct 2024 22:19 collapse

Anyone that employs Sweet Baby deserves to fail. Good thing people are waking up to that.

Katana314@lemmy.world on 20 Oct 2024 00:27 next collapse

Sorry, folks. We’re still working on the browser plugin that automatically hides/downvotes all social media content that raises the topic of Sweet Baby Inc. You’ll just have to do it manually for now.

zecg@lemmy.world on 21 Oct 2024 13:49 collapse

I would be careful with such generalizations - not because I’d be downvoted into a hole (I’ve turned the scores off and just DGAF), but it’s epistemologically a bad habit. However, whatever I’ve seen so far that SBI had their fingers in does have a certain fellow-kids, safe-edgy, corporate-approved, plushie-anarchist tone, the dialogues are atrociously bad and disjointed from their theme (Sable’s postapocalypse, for instance). They can do a less funny version of Joss Whedon’s relaxed banter and they tend to stick it everywhere. But what I really dislike about SBI is that it’s obviously a grift, making developers cough protection money to add pronouns and hair colors to characters.