Nah, the last time they did that was 1985, when Tetris came out.
RowRowRowYourBot@sh.itjust.works
on 29 May 18:58
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Tetris is great and Nightwatch/Daywatch were fun movies to watch. The subtitles were dome in such a unique way that made the experience more compelling.
Tetris slaps. But that was the last time Russia added to human culture
pandamac@lemmy.dbzer0.com
on 29 May 23:33
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A tsar? What? I’m not even defending the USSR, but there were great cultural achievements coming out of Russia and the larger USSR, both critical and propaganda, in literature and film.
NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone
on 30 May 00:24
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Tatu were pretty good.
VagueAnodyneComments@lemmy.blahaj.zone
on 29 May 14:40
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I don’t think they remove military propaganda from Steam. Fascist military sims from fascist countries are specifically allowed.
The last of America’s Army games, see this steamdb page for screenshots. I tried it years ago and got a vibe of proto-insurgency, it’s somewhat realistic, even the tutorial is decent, but as you can imagine they just wanted a good recruitment tool and this wasn’t it.
I played it back in like 2003. It was pretty fucking high class back then, when it came to realism. You could cook nades and decided whether you roll or toss them. You could also peek/lean. I believe it’s kinda common nowadays, but those were some fancy things back then. CS wasn’t even CS:GO back then, but like CS 1.5-1.6.
I never played it through Steam though.
Played on American servers and always had like 180 ping. Still managed to snipe decently.
But even back then I understood it was obviously propaganda, because you’re never allowed to play as “the bad guys”. You’re always an American, and you’re shooting people vaguely Middle-Eastern enemies. From your POV, you’ll rock an M16, but from your enemy’s pov, you’re using an AK47.
I think if they hadn’t tried forcing that bit, it might’ve seen more success.
Pure propaganda, sure, but I enjoyed it as a kid.
Sonotsugipaa@lemmy.dbzer0.com
on 29 May 21:08
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The mindblowing thing is that, if wikipedia doesn’t lie, the same developers also made fucking Moonbase Alpha
nagaram@startrek.website
on 29 May 23:55
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Makes sense. The government probably didn’t want to fund 2 games studios when 1 is fine.
It also had a link to thier recruit sign up page in game if I remember correctly. Also was one of the first free to play milsims.
partial_accumen@lemmy.world
on 29 May 15:03
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Time to start posting reviews with:
“This game is impossible to win!”
“I was told I could take Kyiv in 3 days. I’ve been playing for 1,190 days and I’m still not even close to Kyiv.”
“Why is my enemy using smart guided anti tank rockets and my soldiers are riding bicycles and wearing Adidas knock off sneakers into battle?”
Who knows? Maybe the Russian military is out of tactical ideas and trying to crowdsource a military strategy from gamers to take Ukraine because they can’t do it themselves.
“Blatant land and money grab with impossible grind. Offers pay 2 win, but even pay 2 win doesn’t get you through the grind. I’m selling all the oil I can for in-game currency and it’s not even making a dent. Huge rip off”
NuXCOM_90Percent@lemmy.zip
on 29 May 20:43
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That’s gonna be the next major Gamer lack of media literacy:
“I didn’t know I had the option to just shoot at the russians who were being racist toward me, uninstall the game, and masturbate for weeks at a time. This game is trash and full of plot holes”
RowRowRowYourBot@sh.itjust.works
on 29 May 15:13
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Is this any different from the US DOD making a FPS featuring actual battles from Iraq?
DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social
on 29 May 15:34
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No, they both should be banned.
pastermil@sh.itjust.works
on 29 May 16:00
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You mean Conflict Desert Storm?
RowRowRowYourBot@sh.itjust.works
on 29 May 16:35
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“Operation Iraqi Freedom” America’s Army in its initial release would have maps uploaded weeks after fighting.
RightHandOfIkaros@lemmy.world
on 29 May 17:02
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Both the developer, Pivotal Games, and global publisher, SCi Games, of Conflict Desert Storm are British. Pivotal Games closed in 2008 and SCi is a shell subsidiary of Square Enix. The publisher for the American release was Gotham Games, a subsidiary of Take Two Interactive, which closed down in 2003.
AFAIK, the Conflict series was not developed or funded by the United States government. To my knowledge, only “America’s Army” is a game directly funded and developed for the US government’s military branch. It also is published by the US Military.
Yes… Because all those games where you play as some American grunt fighting in the middle East is something totally different and not comparable at all.
I want to see you explain how Spec Ops: The Line is the same thing as this propaganda shit piece.
I get the gist, I agree that games like America's Army shouldn't be on Steam but you can't just broad stroke all "grunt in the middle east" games as propaganda. They can end up being something totally different and not comparable at all.
You’re not going to find a weapons maker with an unproblematic background (part of the problem with sourcing arms for your SRA meetup) but IMI certainly has a bad one.
They’ve also got a number of totally iconic weapons though. Separate the art from the artist and all that.
Of the lines I draw in my gun purchasing decisions (you’re right they’re all war profitiers), IWI and the like is the only one that I actively disuade people from.
That being said, the engineering history nerd in me is easily compelled to learn about design philosophies
NuXCOM_90Percent@lemmy.zip
on 30 May 15:36
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Rami Ismail is Dutch but obviously cares about this topic. And when he seems to feel a particularly high level of self loathing, he talks about it online
Back in 2018, Steam stated its approach to content on its platform was "to allow everything onto the Steam Store, except for things that we decide are illegal, or straight up trolling".
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A social media account linked on Steam to the game’s developer includes a post suggesting Ukraine’s refusal to surrender will provide “a lot of content to make more missions in our game”.
I’m pretty sure that qualifies.
daggermoon@lemmy.world
on 30 May 00:31
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Politics aside, this is just Door Kickers with russian AI images all over. At least be creative when making propaganda.
The last time a Russian had a cultural achievement that impressed the world they had a tsar. There is nothing worthwhile coming out of Russia anymore.
Nah, the last time they did that was 1985, when Tetris came out.
Tetris is great and Nightwatch/Daywatch were fun movies to watch. The subtitles were dome in such a unique way that made the experience more compelling.
Great movies, and so were the books they’re based on.
Nightwatch was fine. Daywatch not so fine.
Tetris slaps. But that was the last time Russia added to human culture
A tsar? What? I’m not even defending the USSR, but there were great cultural achievements coming out of Russia and the larger USSR, both critical and propaganda, in literature and film.
Tatu were pretty good.
I don’t think they remove military propaganda from Steam. Fascist military sims from fascist countries are specifically allowed.
…steampowered.com/…/Americas_Army_Proving_Grounds…
<img alt="" src="https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/d5f0f017-f361-4aa0-82a3-2771a5597067.gif">
Me seeing you reply with that GIF, then reading your username:
<img alt="" src="https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/d5f0f017-f361-4aa0-82a3-2771a5597067.gif">
What’s this? It‘s blocked in my region.
The last of America’s Army games, see this steamdb page for screenshots. I tried it years ago and got a vibe of proto-insurgency, it’s somewhat realistic, even the tutorial is decent, but as you can imagine they just wanted a good recruitment tool and this wasn’t it.
I played it back in like 2003. It was pretty fucking high class back then, when it came to realism. You could cook nades and decided whether you roll or toss them. You could also peek/lean. I believe it’s kinda common nowadays, but those were some fancy things back then. CS wasn’t even CS:GO back then, but like CS 1.5-1.6.
I never played it through Steam though.
Played on American servers and always had like 180 ping. Still managed to snipe decently.
But even back then I understood it was obviously propaganda, because you’re never allowed to play as “the bad guys”. You’re always an American, and you’re shooting people vaguely Middle-Eastern enemies. From your POV, you’ll rock an M16, but from your enemy’s pov, you’re using an AK47.
I think if they hadn’t tried forcing that bit, it might’ve seen more success.
Pure propaganda, sure, but I enjoyed it as a kid.
The mindblowing thing is that, if wikipedia doesn’t lie, the same developers also made fucking Moonbase Alpha
Makes sense. The government probably didn’t want to fund 2 games studios when 1 is fine.
John Madden!
It also had a link to thier recruit sign up page in game if I remember correctly. Also was one of the first free to play milsims.
Time to start posting reviews with:
Who knows? Maybe the Russian military is out of tactical ideas and trying to crowdsource a military strategy from gamers to take Ukraine because they can’t do it themselves.
“Blatant land and money grab with impossible grind. Offers pay 2 win, but even pay 2 win doesn’t get you through the grind. I’m selling all the oil I can for in-game currency and it’s not even making a dent. Huge rip off”
“In a February 2022 blog post the dev team said they would release a new Kyiv map in 3 days, it hasn’t been mentioned ever since”
Duh,just rocket jump all the way to Kiev. If you go fast enough no one will be able to stop you.
do they let players choose to be the north korean guys who say fuck this and go look at porn instead?
Coming soon as DLC.
lol that happened?
www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/…/ar-AA1tK3mt
I don’t blame them.
That’s gonna be the next major Gamer lack of media literacy:
“I didn’t know I had the option to just shoot at the russians who were being racist toward me, uninstall the game, and masturbate for weeks at a time. This game is trash and full of plot holes”
Is this any different from the US DOD making a FPS featuring actual battles from Iraq?
No, they both should be banned.
You mean Conflict Desert Storm?
“Operation Iraqi Freedom” America’s Army in its initial release would have maps uploaded weeks after fighting.
Both the developer, Pivotal Games, and global publisher, SCi Games, of Conflict Desert Storm are British. Pivotal Games closed in 2008 and SCi is a shell subsidiary of Square Enix. The publisher for the American release was Gotham Games, a subsidiary of Take Two Interactive, which closed down in 2003.
AFAIK, the Conflict series was not developed or funded by the United States government. To my knowledge, only “America’s Army” is a game directly funded and developed for the US government’s military branch. It also is published by the US Military.
"encounter and interact with civilians“
That’s one way to say SA/shoot them indiscriminately after kidnapping their kids
Can I smack a downed drone with a missile launcher?
The ol Ender’s Game approach. Interesting move. Let’s see how it plays out.
Sacrifice then all
Another thing to add to my list of why steam is a fucking shit hole since green light went away.
Yes… Because all those games where you play as some American grunt fighting in the middle East is something totally different and not comparable at all.
I want to see you explain how Spec Ops: The Line is the same thing as this propaganda shit piece.
I get the gist, I agree that games like America's Army shouldn't be on Steam but you can't just broad stroke all "grunt in the middle east" games as propaganda. They can end up being something totally different and not comparable at all.
Texas sharpshooter.
I'm not sure I follow. Are you acknowledging the very fallacy you stepped into?
And it looks like you don’t understand what the fallacy means.
Okay dude. Come back when you've stopped being a cryptic little shit and can communicate like a normal person.
A small fraction compared to the indie games and puzzlers, or are you one of those just shut the whole thing down so nobody is happy kind-of people?
No, I’m one of those “I hate double standards” type of people.
There’s always Counter Strike if you’re on the side that the terrorists are the good guys
I am just surprised that it’s not being mass flagged. Very strange.
Can I shoot my training cadre in the tutorial like those Central Asians did near the start of the war?
that game blocked in Ru region in steam
Of course Steam would allow this.
Notorious libertarian Lord Gaben has no issue taking fascist money.
So Russians are fascist now?
Is water wet?
… now?
Imagine getting thousands of kids addicted to gambling, while people still sing your praises. Cool world, cool people 👍🏼
I wonder how people in the Middle East feel about Call of Duty.
I’m sure the people of Gaza are always excited to play the “counter terrorists” on Dust 2 as well.
It took watching a bunch of videos on Israeli weapons development before I learned who uses the fucking Negev
You’re not going to find a weapons maker with an unproblematic background (part of the problem with sourcing arms for your SRA meetup) but IMI certainly has a bad one.
They’ve also got a number of totally iconic weapons though. Separate the art from the artist and all that.
Of the lines I draw in my gun purchasing decisions (you’re right they’re all war profitiers), IWI and the like is the only one that I actively disuade people from.
That being said, the engineering history nerd in me is easily compelled to learn about design philosophies
Rami Ismail is Dutch but obviously cares about this topic. And when he seems to feel a particularly high level of self loathing, he talks about it online
kotaku.com/war-games-muslim-arab-call-of-duty-pal… is a great article that includes quotes from him and discusses the topic at large.
Play it just to sabotage my own teammates.
Someone needs to do a mod where your armour is tissue thin and there are waves of fibre optic drones coming down at you.
Also, the soldiers are on crutches and there are side missions to loot toilets.
I’m pretty sure that qualifies.
war crime simulator 2025
Yunarmy: putana yugend
The developer better avoid driving any cars lol
Just going to install the game to leave a negative review because if anyone deserves a review bomb it’s this.
I’m going to pirate it then go and sabotage the ruskis