Yo, open world RPG folks, stay home on this, it’s all button mashing nonsense to your “elevated” brain anyway 😂 We got this.
Just maybe read the article first next time.
cerebralhawks@lemmy.dbzer0.com
on 01 Oct 10:49
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And people will still pay it, just like people bought Switch 2s in record numbers and just like the ROG Ally X (Xbox handheld) will sell well.
I’m sure those who say they won’t are telling the truth, but most of them were never planning on buying it. Those who were will roll over like they always do.
It’s sad, but I’m somewhat rooting for $80-100 games and other BS like this, because I know at some point the frog will jump out of the water, we’ll have another video game crash, and after a few years things will return to sanity. But unlike last time, we all have huge backlogs — it won’t hurt gamers nearly as much as it will big publishers. I think it may even be good for indies.
What I’m really rooting for though: more indie games, more weird games, more dumb games that appeal to a niche and are loved by them for years to come that most people don’t get. A shift away from platform exclusivity. A shift away from Windows to both Mac and Linux. Something like Proton (LInux tool for emulating Windows games) on Mac. I’m fine with gaming being fine on Windows and Xbox, but it should still be fine if you don’t want to throw any money at Microsoft.
ampersandrew@lemmy.world
on 01 Oct 11:44
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This is something that used to be free and now costs about $40. Outside of Japan, a lot of people won’t pay it and will just not watch the finals.
I cannot fathom how this move is better for them than a larger audience with baked-in ads. This isn‘t some huge event with mainstream appeal. I‘d hope they ran the numbers, but nowadays I‘m not so sure.
This isn‘t some huge event with mainstream appeal.
It is in Japan, but the whole idea is archaic anyway. Reeks of old, greedy executive BS. So short-sighted in terms of both profitability and goodwill.
mnemonicmonkeys@sh.itjust.works
on 01 Oct 20:38
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Reeks of old, greedy executive BS. So short-sighted in terms of both profitability and goodwill.
TBH, this seems like most Japanese companies in a nutshell
ampersandrew@lemmy.world
on 01 Oct 11:47
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The whole point of running an event like this in the first place is that’s an enormous ad for the video game that they sell. Putting up a paywall in front of it just seems counter productive.
RogueAozame@programming.dev
on 02 Oct 05:32
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I watch a lot of fgc creators and the general consensus is the game is simply so much bigger in Japan then the rest of the world and the Japanese will pay to watch it. Japanese SF6 content creators have better viewership numbers than the biggest fgc content creators like Max and Sajam. Japanese only tournaments are almost as big viewership wise as some worldwide tournaments like evo. So essentially it comes down to the majority of the audience is in Japan and because of that they can actually expect to convert a lot of that audience to pay per view because of japanese consumers habits. They already did it for street fighter league japan as well. I would assume to test the waters for this. It doesn’t bode well for them internationally but a lot of Japanese companies dont really care about international audiences. Unless the international audience is too big to ignore which for street fighter 6 doesnt appear to be the case.
I agree with what Max said: this only makes sense for Japan, which’s bizarre because they made a ton of effort to broaden the audience of SF6 outside of Japan and it’s a shame to have that jeopardized out of greed.
Some old, evil executive saw all the goodwill they’ve been building up and got upset, probably.
NuXCOM_90Percent@lemmy.zip
on 01 Oct 14:12
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Eh…
They’ve been making a lot of effort to expand the “old” FGC (so basically Street Fighter) outside of Japan for a few years now. It hasn’t really taken hold (and I am going to pretend it is because everyone is like me and gets off on watching Guilty Gear!) and we see more and more Saudi money being pumped into “Western” FGC events.
So I can see an argument for doubling down on their core audience to lock that in.
And… PPVs ARE kind of making a comeback in The West. People are increasingly annoyed by “needing so many streaming services”. And, at least in pro wrestling, AEW have kind of been cleaning up with their 4-6 PPVs a year. The HBO Max deal helps a lot for people to watch the weekly show but… it is fricking HBO Max and a lot of folk are still taking the route of “I skip Dynamite and just watch the PPVs”. And the human trafficking front known as WWE are starting to shift back that way as a result of, among other things, their ESPN deal. Companies have been desperate for more and more “event television” as streaming takes over (hence why AEW and WWE can get such lucrative tv contracts) and nothing is more “event” than paying 30-70 bucks to sit around the TV on a Saturday night.
So I think it is less “a few greedy execs want to burn away the goodwill” and more… the overall industry trends.
ampersandrew@lemmy.world
on 01 Oct 11:42
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Fans are definitely not left speechless, as they’ve got a lot to say about it in this article.
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They should’ve stuck with making endless Street Fighter II variants. I prefer those anyway.
yup. gimme marvel vs capcom 2 quality any day over sf3 etc.
darkstalkers is legit too.
Love Darkstalkers! Capcom better be working on bringing it back!
so many great and strange characters / movesets!
One of my biggest disappointments was when MvC:3 came out. I was hoping for something to top 2 and then they dumbed it down so monumentally.
right? amen bruddah. wish they’d go back to 2d sprites and go all in.
but bring back a remix of mvc2 menu music because I wanna take you for a ride (cue horns)
How would that have changed this situation?
Do.
Not.
Preorder!
Solid advice.
But what does it have to do with this topic?
Yo, open world RPG folks, stay home on this, it’s all button mashing nonsense to your “elevated” brain anyway 😂 We got this.
Just maybe read the article first next time.
And people will still pay it, just like people bought Switch 2s in record numbers and just like the ROG Ally X (Xbox handheld) will sell well.
I’m sure those who say they won’t are telling the truth, but most of them were never planning on buying it. Those who were will roll over like they always do.
It’s sad, but I’m somewhat rooting for $80-100 games and other BS like this, because I know at some point the frog will jump out of the water, we’ll have another video game crash, and after a few years things will return to sanity. But unlike last time, we all have huge backlogs — it won’t hurt gamers nearly as much as it will big publishers. I think it may even be good for indies.
What I’m really rooting for though: more indie games, more weird games, more dumb games that appeal to a niche and are loved by them for years to come that most people don’t get. A shift away from platform exclusivity. A shift away from Windows to both Mac and Linux. Something like Proton (LInux tool for emulating Windows games) on Mac. I’m fine with gaming being fine on Windows and Xbox, but it should still be fine if you don’t want to throw any money at Microsoft.
This is something that used to be free and now costs about $40. Outside of Japan, a lot of people won’t pay it and will just not watch the finals.
New Lemmy pasta?
I cannot fathom how this move is better for them than a larger audience with baked-in ads. This isn‘t some huge event with mainstream appeal. I‘d hope they ran the numbers, but nowadays I‘m not so sure.
It is in Japan, but the whole idea is archaic anyway. Reeks of old, greedy executive BS. So short-sighted in terms of both profitability and goodwill.
TBH, this seems like most Japanese companies in a nutshell
The whole point of running an event like this in the first place is that’s an enormous ad for the video game that they sell. Putting up a paywall in front of it just seems counter productive.
I watch a lot of fgc creators and the general consensus is the game is simply so much bigger in Japan then the rest of the world and the Japanese will pay to watch it. Japanese SF6 content creators have better viewership numbers than the biggest fgc content creators like Max and Sajam. Japanese only tournaments are almost as big viewership wise as some worldwide tournaments like evo. So essentially it comes down to the majority of the audience is in Japan and because of that they can actually expect to convert a lot of that audience to pay per view because of japanese consumers habits. They already did it for street fighter league japan as well. I would assume to test the waters for this. It doesn’t bode well for them internationally but a lot of Japanese companies dont really care about international audiences. Unless the international audience is too big to ignore which for street fighter 6 doesnt appear to be the case.
Interesting, thanks for sharing
I agree with what Max said: this only makes sense for Japan, which’s bizarre because they made a ton of effort to broaden the audience of SF6 outside of Japan and it’s a shame to have that jeopardized out of greed.
Some old, evil executive saw all the goodwill they’ve been building up and got upset, probably.
Eh…
They’ve been making a lot of effort to expand the “old” FGC (so basically Street Fighter) outside of Japan for a few years now. It hasn’t really taken hold (and I am going to pretend it is because everyone is like me and gets off on watching Guilty Gear!) and we see more and more Saudi money being pumped into “Western” FGC events.
So I can see an argument for doubling down on their core audience to lock that in.
And… PPVs ARE kind of making a comeback in The West. People are increasingly annoyed by “needing so many streaming services”. And, at least in pro wrestling, AEW have kind of been cleaning up with their 4-6 PPVs a year. The HBO Max deal helps a lot for people to watch the weekly show but… it is fricking HBO Max and a lot of folk are still taking the route of “I skip Dynamite and just watch the PPVs”. And the human trafficking front known as WWE are starting to shift back that way as a result of, among other things, their ESPN deal. Companies have been desperate for more and more “event television” as streaming takes over (hence why AEW and WWE can get such lucrative tv contracts) and nothing is more “event” than paying 30-70 bucks to sit around the TV on a Saturday night.
So I think it is less “a few greedy execs want to burn away the goodwill” and more… the overall industry trends.
Fans are definitely not left speechless, as they’ve got a lot to say about it in this article.
They have lots to say, but no speeches
Which is technically less, but speechnone would be more appropriate then
Yeah… Gamers are a demographic well known for holding their opinions to themselves…/s
GaMeRS rise Up!!!
Pretty sure they would have been better off just making more cosmetics and charging us for it.
There is no way I will support this from Capcom.
Really capcom ? You too ? What now ? Nintendo joining in on the fun ?
You too? Who else is doing this in the e-sports space?
Nintendo always sucked ass.
Capcom was one of the few old greats that still had some goodwill left.
Now it’s clear their analysts are using that goodwill to increase next quarter’s profits.
We only have “they’re a business and they need to make money!” rhetoric to blame.
Doesn’t surprise me at all.
E-sports people are easy to take advantage of.
Wait until you hear about regular sports people.
How else would they tax their 20,000 stupid audience to brag about $2-millions prize for 1st place?