Was that supposed an anti paywall link or something
Eeyore_Syndrome@sh.itjust.works
on 02 May 2024 00:39
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Seems like a broken signature hyperlink to me.
CosmicCleric@lemmy.world
on 02 May 2024 00:41
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Seems like a broken signature hyperlink to me.
Nope, it works.
Edit: By “it works” I mean the link can be clicked on. If the formatting looks wrong, check to see if the client you are using supports subscript/superscript fonts.
subignition@fedia.io
on 02 May 2024 02:16
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Looks like Lemmy has decided to use a flavor of Markdown which is inconsistent from Mbin's. That's a shame.
CosmicCleric@lemmy.world
on 02 May 2024 02:59
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Looks like Lemmy has decided to use a flavor of Markdown which is inconsistent from Mbin’s. That’s a shame.
Weirdly enough, different Lemmy Android clients for Lemmy also work differently with the scripts formatting, each having their own quirks. One person though did fix their problem by upgrading their client app to the latest version.
I had thought it was all one single standard, when first started using the formatting. My original intent was just to have a smaller font, as I was at first just using the link format without any subscripting, but people were complaining about that, so I was trying to compromise and make it smaller.
SlothMama@lemmy.world
on 02 May 2024 04:38
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That isn’t how anything works. This is like those people on Facebook posting their voodoo chainmail posts about their comments and profiles. You don’t own your comments to transfer a license in the first place.
CosmicCleric@lemmy.world
on 02 May 2024 04:57
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You don’t own your comments to transfer a license in the first place.
Are you a lawyer? You have some citation to back that up?
“I DO NOT GRANT PERMISSION TO LAW ENFORCEMENT TO READ THIS COMMENT. ANY USE OF THIS COMMENT BY LAW ENFORCEMENT FOR ANY REASON IS ILLEGAL. THIS COMMENT CANNOT BE USED AS EVIDENCE AGAINST ANY NON-LAW ENFORCEMENT PERSONS IN RELATION TO ANY CRIME.”
Hawk@lemmy.dbzer0.com
on 02 May 2024 05:32
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Like I told you before. That’s not a link to the license, the page itself says so!
CosmicCleric@lemmy.world
on 02 May 2024 06:11
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Like I told you before. That’s not a link to the license, the page itself says so!
Thats the canonical version of the license.
The legal version is linked directly from there, as well as here.
My declaring my comments as licensed by CC BY-NC-SA 4.0 means its licensed. Its your responsibility to read the full license to comply, not mine.
Hawk@lemmy.dbzer0.com
on 02 May 2024 06:42
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Aha, so you actually read it? Thanks for clarifying.
So you didn’t reach the conclusion that this license is incompatible with posting on Lemmy?
CosmicCleric@lemmy.world
on 02 May 2024 06:54
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Aha, so you actually read it? Thanks for clarifying.
I have. Both versions. I was just linking to the easy to read version (canonical), but by declaring my comment as licensed means it is covered by CC BY-NC-SA 4.0, and you can get to the legal version from the canonical version.
So you didn’t reach the conclusion that this license is incompatible with posting on Lemmy?
Are you a lawyer? No? Well then be sure to come back here once you get your degree and let us know the final word on this.
flux@lemmy.world
on 01 May 2024 23:27
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Rollerdrome was very solid concept but the difficulty curve was pretty intense. One second you feel like you have the hang of it the next you can’t get to the next arena.
Yeah I absolutely adored the concept and would love.to see it picked up. I discovered it after pitching to a friend Tony Hawk’s Borderlands 4 and gradually realising the proof of concept existed.
Is Kerbal Space Program 2 worth playing for someone who had fun with but was bad at 1?
Reviews are - not good.
Hubi@lemmy.world
on 01 May 2024 23:44
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Not really, the first one was better in pretty much every single regard.
EdibleFriend@lemmy.world
on 02 May 2024 01:15
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I haven’t really been following because the first was just beyond me…how did they fuck up part 2?
Blaster_M@lemmy.world
on 02 May 2024 02:02
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They released the game early access, so everyone was expecting a perfect game from the start because of how much development went into 1. Honestly, while 2 had issues, the game engine is much better than 1, they just needed to bake it more, like several years more, before releasing it hot off the heels of 1.
Man that’s been the case with these sequels to games I really loved. Happened to Cities Skylines as well, and at first it seemed like that’s happened with Helldivers but it turns out it was so good it just ruined the servers.
ourob@discuss.tchncs.de
on 02 May 2024 01:01
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In its current state? Not unless it gets heavily marked down (KSP2 does have better tutorials and a more accessible progression system).
With the studio being shut down, it’s likely that what we have now is all we’re getting.
It is a AAA game. It stopped being an indie when Take Two bought it from Squad.
SchmidtGenetics@lemmy.world
on 02 May 2024 01:45
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Why are we defending publishers and letting them get away with using this term this way? The term should be earned for its content and quality. AAA should not mean “large studio”.
This whole “we are a AAA studio”, when they haven’t even made a game and got the business license the day before is fucking stupid as shit. Don’t use the terms the way they want it to be used.
variants@possumpat.io
on 02 May 2024 04:27
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I always thought AAA just meant they have a lot of money, like how cod games are AAA because of the budget but are still terrible, not as an indicator of quality
acosmichippo@lemmy.world
on 02 May 2024 04:49
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they’re right though. it has nothing to do with “defending” anyone, that’s just what AAA means.
SchmidtGenetics@lemmy.world
on 02 May 2024 12:33
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What other industry uses the term that way? Every other industry is quality. AAA to refer to size…. Right….
I know that’s how the term is used, it’s just fucking wrong when every other industry uses it differently……
Don’t let them get away with this shit. You are defending them. Notice how your link even says informal……… they are trying to make it a thing, when no other industry uses that way, and other people in the industry are calling it out.
You’re trying to defend this stupid shit.
If you continue to use this incorrect term, it will become a thing, that’s what they are hedging on, people like you letting this happen. AAA means quality, they aren’t putting out quality product so they are trying to change what the term means so they look good. Way to eat that shit right up.
acosmichippo@lemmy.world
on 02 May 2024 14:01
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it’s all informal marketing jargon in every industry bro. this is not a hill to die on.
SchmidtGenetics@lemmy.world
on 02 May 2024 14:25
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And that’s how marketing wins, when everyone just rolls over and accepts it.
Nah, this is just part of a long list of shit the rest of the gaming industry is trying to reverse, stop letting this continue to happen and stop defending it.
What are you talking about? The “AAA” classification has always been a measure of corporate involvement and budget, not of quality. If you think that being large in scale and having good production quality is what makes “AAA” games, you’re dead wrong.
SchmidtGenetics@lemmy.world
on 02 May 2024 12:31
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What are you talking about…? What other industry uses it that way? Every other industry is quality, not size. Don’t let them get away with this shit.
Don’t defend them and let them get away with this shit.
If you continue to use this incorrect term, it will become a thing, that’s what they are hedging on, people like you letting this happen. AAA means quality, they aren’t putting out quality product so they are trying to change what the term means so they look good. Way to eat that shit right up.
SchmidtGenetics@lemmy.world
on 02 May 2024 13:08
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The AAA games they used to put out were quality games at one point. So the term was correct, now that the quality has slid they are trying to get marketing to work on their side.
And people like you letting them get away with it is how it works.
I think this is where people usually say shill and boot licker in these exchanges.
SchmidtGenetics@lemmy.world
on 02 May 2024 13:22
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Way to explain your point with anything of substance dude….
You’re the reason why marketing works so well. Say something flashy and people will find a way to defend it and support them. Even if it’s nothing to do with anything.
SchmidtGenetics@lemmy.world
on 02 May 2024 13:30
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So nothing but a troll defending corporations using terms how they want…? Okay. Keep using the term the way they want so it means literally nothing anymore! You are the problem, glad you made it obvious! Thanks!
It’s terrible. They released an Alpha at full price. They changed how building rockets was done, for the worse. Performance was horrible even on my 3080 and aside from prettier graphics, there was nothing really new to explore. If it were cheaper, I’d be kinder. If it performed decently I wouldn’t mind but they released a POS of a game knowing full well KSP1 owners would buy it and it made us all look like suckers. They knew they released an incomplete game at full price and didn’t deliver. That sir is hot garbage.
Great, two games I loved (well, I was waiting for KSP2 to get good…)
Rollerdrome was fantastic and KSP1 is legendary. This sucks ass.
meleecrits@lemmy.world
on 02 May 2024 01:27
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I remember the first time I successfully landed on the moon and brought my kerbals back. It was one of my most cathartic experiences.
It’s sad to see the sequel get abandoned like this.
NielsBohron@lemmy.world
on 02 May 2024 04:40
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It’s sad to see the sequel get abandoned like this.
Especially when KSP has had such an active and vibrant community for a decade
Kolanaki@yiffit.net
on 02 May 2024 05:03
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I actually was recording when I made the most gnarly mun landing ever in KSP. I ran out of fuel, was going too fast to not explode. I moved Valetina to hang on the outside of the craft, and moments before impact, I had her jump off. The resulting explosion from the module was juuuust enough counter force to prevent Valentina herself from hitting the ground too hard and she lived to plant a flag. To date, it’s the most impressive thing I’ve personally managed in the game.
I remember the heroic explorer Jebediah Kerman was on the way way back from the moon. The touchdown was flawless landing, the science was beyond value and the moment brought all the world together.
They had doubted sending Jeb but he silenced the doubters to low grumbles.
But then as the rockets were burning for the reentry burn and the orbit was decreasing, but the brain boxes had made a drastic mistake and undershot the fuel. A perfect mission and Kerbin’s greatest hero was potentially doomed all is a moment of low delta v.
He was so close. Getting nearer and nearer to home, but it wasn’t to be! Soon he was getting further and further away! Drifting into the darkness yet again.
The agency went into full swing immediately. How much food does he have, how much water, how much air!? How long until we have another rocket that can take off!? We only built one rocket there is no back up. Never before had a two kerbin rocket has ever been flown, never before had a rendezvous been attempted, never before had a rocket flown remotely. PR was there talking to the press was doing their best to save a near hopeless situation.
Then get this! I remember it like it was yesterday. Jeb wasn’t bothered at all. Out there all on his own he said he wanted to go on a space walk. It got approved knowing that he might as well enjoy his final moments before the highly likely death. But this is Jebediah Kerman we are on about now. Not for a moment did he believe he was going to die, he get out into space and begins to push the rocket using with his bare hands! The brain boxes can’t believe it!!! Its working. The orbit had done just enough to scrap the atmosphere. Jebediah was coming home! Only Jebediah. Then even the doubters had to say of Jebediah, he was truly the greatest of all astronauts.
EmpathicVagrant@lemmy.world
on 02 May 2024 10:31
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Okay I need a KSP blog about various (mis)adventures such as this!
mariusafa@lemmy.sdf.org
on 02 May 2024 19:43
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The one an only Jebediah Kerman, my guy.
TachyonTele@lemm.ee
on 02 May 2024 01:29
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KSP 2 should have been a huge slam dunk. Take everything from the first one, redo the menus, up the graphics, and add some new stuff. It blows my mind they messed it up so badly.
sebinspace@lemmy.world
on 02 May 2024 06:01
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And optimizations…
fuck it needed optimizing…
Nindelofocho@lemmy.world
on 02 May 2024 14:09
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It has gotten better but man still so much undelivered. Im just sad and im tired of being sad. Im fully pledging to never buy a big publisher game unless it absolutely proves itself first and even then im still gunna be hesitant cause vote with your money and all that. Honestly outside of KSP2 Ive already been purchasing and playing mostly indie games for the last 2 years anyways
sebinspace@lemmy.world
on 02 May 2024 18:02
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I think I’ve gotten about as much out of KSP1 as I’m ever going to get. I really like the USI mod, but the lack of optimizations keeps me from doing anything really complex. By the time I have all of the facilities on the Mun to have full manufacturing (or… munufacturing, if you will), the game is already lagging to the point of unplayability.
CheeseNoodle@lemmy.world
on 02 May 2024 10:15
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Its because they fired or otherwise pushed out every single original developer towards the tail end of KSP1.
MonkderDritte@feddit.de
on 02 May 2024 13:54
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To be fair, KSP 1 was pretty bad on the technical side. And they were laymen, creating what they wanted to create.
dustyData@lemmy.world
on 03 May 2024 20:06
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They were non-game developers doing a videogame. But they were pretty good programmers for what they put out. It’s still the best and most popular space exploration sim game ever made. The thing does the thing they said it was going to do, it will probably melt your computer during edge cases, but everywhere else it’s a solid game. They even managed to confine the kraken to very extreme circumstances. If it is a hack job but it works, then it isn’t a hack job.
CheeseNoodle@lemmy.world
on 04 May 2024 09:18
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Not to mention the physics are stable enough that people were building helicopters using stage seperators and landing gear long before we got any real joints.
Cybersteel@lemmy.world
on 04 May 2024 09:04
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Well those execs need to be pushed… out a window.
Cheems@lemmy.world
on 02 May 2024 11:12
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Wow that is insane, I didn’t know they fumbled it so bad. I remember when it was announced and the fan base was so pumped. I played a little of the first game but never got super into it.
Man I was so excited for KSP 2, I couldn’t wait to build a moon colony with friends. Shame they never delivered what they promised
refalo@programming.dev
on 02 May 2024 13:01
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I wonder why developers never put much worth in what people actually want or you know, just talk to them and ask?
Or is this some kind of “users have no idea what they want” situation?
Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world
on 02 May 2024 13:13
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The fact that they released a game with wobbly rockets and then charged $50 for it shows they didn’t know what the hell they were doing. It should have been free for early access with a simple way to report bugs. I’m not gonna pay that much to do QA work for them.
MonkderDritte@feddit.de
on 02 May 2024 13:51
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up the graphics
Add some geology formation algorythm better than mere octaves.
Delusional@lemmy.world
on 02 May 2024 15:10
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The same could be said of multiple games these days. KSP, payday, cities skylines, etc.
Smokeless7048@lemmy.world
on 02 May 2024 18:51
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that, and fix some of the spegheti code from KSP 1. I love the game, but no one argued that it wasnt a hack job
It definitely was a hack job. But it was a little hobby project that a non videogame company decided to be cool about and develop it. It was also an early access for wicked cheap.
The sequel was given way more manpower, experience, and money right from the start.
Smokeless7048@lemmy.world
on 03 May 2024 16:14
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for sure! i bought it really early on, and it was amazing.
Just wish that they hadn’t bodged it so bad.
dustyData@lemmy.world
on 03 May 2024 20:04
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The sequel was given way more manpower, experience, and money right from the start.
Which was then squandered by bad management by scrapping almost two years of work to startover with entirely different staff. Let’s not kid ourselves, from a managerial POV, KSP2 is a perfect template of all the “what to do to ensure a video game fails at launch”.
Couldn’t agree more. What really hurts is KSP is one of a kind. There’s nothing else like it. Hopefully someone out there pulls a City Skylines and makes a successor.
But even the sequel to that game was botched… So who knows.
dustyData@lemmy.world
on 03 May 2024 20:35
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The problem is the corporate greed. But anyways, Juno exists. It has the same spirit of accurate spaceship design and flight simulation, even if the tone is distinctly different.
CosmicCleric@lemmy.world
on 04 May 2024 16:12
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But anyways, Juno exists. It has the same spirit of accurate spaceship design and flight simulation, even if the tone is distinctly different.
Would you happen to have a link for that? My Google-Fu is wanting in trying to find more information about it.
As far as I’m concerned the inclusion of the “anti-DoTA” clause in their EULA murdered it for me. I was so excited. KSP is one of my favorite games of all times, largely as a result of the vibrant and very technically advanced modding community. Same goes for essentially all of my favorites; Rimworld, Backpack Hero, Factorio. The free labor that expands the games in major ways extends the value of my money and let’s me have fun forever in them.
Putting in a clause in a EULA which automatically and irrevocably assumes all ownership and rights to any code or assets that are created for a game is just too far. Assuming rights at all is a huge issue for me, but I can accept that it is beneficial to assume royalty free licenses to the mods, I’ll even begrudgingly accept clauses that allow developers to gaffle features and optimizations from mods without giving remuneration or even acknowledgment. But wholesale ownership that revokes all rights and licenses for the independent 3rd party creator. Fuck that. I will never support a game that I find out is treating the people who keep games alive and relevant for decades for free like that.
AlexisFR@jlai.lu
on 02 May 2024 05:17
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Well another studio took over from Intercept Games to work on KSP 2 a while ago, right? Star Theory, iirc.
modcolocko@lemmy.blahaj.zone
on 02 May 2024 14:18
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stay theory was shut down and absorbed by intercept games
billwashere@lemmy.world
on 02 May 2024 19:07
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According to the wiki page…
“In May 2024, Take-Two announced it would shut down Intercept Games but continue to update Kerbal Space Program 2 under the Private Division label.”
dustyData@lemmy.world
on 03 May 2024 20:09
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I wonder how will they manage that logistically. They are firing every single developer from IG. Who exactly in Private Division is going to be doing the updating? I suspect they will just brush a little of the code that is ready, then completely abandon the product in a year or so.
orl0pl@lemmy.world
on 02 May 2024 10:23
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I hope that they will share the source code on some kind of GPL to make this game not dead, shot down studio isn’t going to make any update and who will get the money?
Edit: they will still make the updates
FiniteBanjo@lemmy.today
on 02 May 2024 18:32
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Take-Two still receives the proceeds from the sales, depending on employment contracts probably pays royalties to the devs. Also, it’s their intellectual property so there could be consequences for leaking the source code.
They abandoned Linux support. Fuck them. It was one of the only games that did. Linux users were a bug part of their initial success, and they dumped us as soon as the money came in.
dustyData@lemmy.world
on 03 May 2024 20:12
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I predicted KSP2 was going to be eventually abandoned and IG closed around the time of the launch, when the first industry layoffs were starting to happen. The mildest thing I was called for suggesting this was pessimist and it only got worse from that term. I suppose I was half right…so far.
index@sh.itjust.works
on 03 May 2024 20:13
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something something redshell
Olgratin_Magmatoe@lemmy.world
on 03 May 2024 23:30
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Best case scenario, they learn from No Man’s Sky with what few devs they have left. Worst case scenario, the game remains shit, and we all continue to enjoy modded to hell KSP 1/Juno/etc.
Cybersteel@lemmy.world
on 04 May 2024 09:06
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Idk if it’s true but I heard they were gonna pull og ksp from the stores soon so that ksp 2 have better legs.
threaded - newest
Paywalled.
~Anti~ ~Commercial-AI~ ~license~ ~(CC~ ~BY-NC-SA~ ~4.0)~
Was that supposed an anti paywall link or something
Seems like a broken signature hyperlink to me.
Nope, it works.
Edit: By “it works” I mean the link can be clicked on. If the formatting looks wrong, check to see if the client you are using supports subscript/superscript fonts.
~Anti~ ~Commercial-AI~ ~license~ ~(CC~ ~BY-NC-SA~ ~4.0)~
From Mbin, it looks struck through, lol
Its formatted properly, per Lemmy’s web page.
Its using subscript/superscript fonts, so you might want to double-check if your client is supporting those fonts properly or not.
Subscript: ~subscript~
~subscript~Superscript: ^superscript^
^superscript^If the above does not display correctly, you need to talk to the devs of the client that you are using. I’m using the Lemmy web client.
~Anti~ ~Commercial-AI~ ~license~ ~(CC~ ~BY-NC-SA~ ~4.0)~
Looks like Lemmy has decided to use a flavor of Markdown which is inconsistent from Mbin's. That's a shame.
Weirdly enough, different Lemmy Android clients for Lemmy also work differently with the scripts formatting, each having their own quirks. One person though did fix their problem by upgrading their client app to the latest version.
I had thought it was all one single standard, when first started using the formatting. My original intent was just to have a smaller font, as I was at first just using the link format without any subscripting, but people were complaining about that, so I was trying to compromise and make it smaller.
~Anti~ ~Commercial-AI~ ~license~ ~(CC~ ~BY-NC-SA~ ~4.0)~
Would a link to a license on a comment will prevent someone from using your comments in a data model? I have doubts.
Nope. Its a Creative Comments license for my comment.
~Anti~ ~Commercial-AI~ ~license~ ~(CC~ ~BY-NC-SA~ ~4.0)~
For any particular reason?
I get that question asked frequently, so I’ll just point you to this comment from me, which explains. …
lemmy.world/comment/9744090
Otherwise, the description of the link is sufficient to get an idea of what its about.
~Anti~ ~Commercial-AI~ ~license~ ~(CC~ ~BY-NC-SA~ ~4.0)~
If most of your comments are defending the link that everyone is laughing at, and you know it doesn’t do anything, you might just want to ditch it.
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Probably. Nice catch
That isn’t how anything works. This is like those people on Facebook posting their voodoo chainmail posts about their comments and profiles. You don’t own your comments to transfer a license in the first place.
Are you a lawyer? You have some citation to back that up?
~Anti~ ~Commercial-AI~ ~license~ ~(CC~ ~BY-NC-SA~ ~4.0)~
Are YOU a lawyer?
I am an excellent shower singer.
Now, if you are done trying to avoid the question, lets try again. I’m really curious as to your citation. …
I know that you are incorrect, but I’m willing to hear your evidence to the contrary. ??
~Anti~ ~Commercial-AI~ ~license~ ~(CC~ ~BY-NC-SA~ ~4.0)~
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Fair enough. I’m getting broadsided from many people, easy to lose track, especially multi-comments later down in the stack.
But, you’re still breaking rule 2.
~Anti~ ~Commercial-AI~ ~license~ ~(CC~ ~BY-NC-SA~ ~4.0)~
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He thinks it’ll actually do something.
It will not.
What is the Anti Commercial-Al license and why do people keep adding it to their comments?
“I DO NOT GRANT PERMISSION TO LAW ENFORCEMENT TO READ THIS COMMENT. ANY USE OF THIS COMMENT BY LAW ENFORCEMENT FOR ANY REASON IS ILLEGAL. THIS COMMENT CANNOT BE USED AS EVIDENCE AGAINST ANY NON-LAW ENFORCEMENT PERSONS IN RELATION TO ANY CRIME.”
Like I told you before. That’s not a link to the license, the page itself says so!
Thats the canonical version of the license.
The legal version is linked directly from there, as well as here.
My declaring my comments as licensed by CC BY-NC-SA 4.0 means its licensed. Its your responsibility to read the full license to comply, not mine.
~Anti~ ~Commercial-AI~ ~license~ ~(CC~ ~BY-NC-SA~ ~4.0)~
Aha, so you actually read it? Thanks for clarifying.
So you didn’t reach the conclusion that this license is incompatible with posting on Lemmy?
I have. Both versions. I was just linking to the easy to read version (canonical), but by declaring my comment as licensed means it is covered by CC BY-NC-SA 4.0, and you can get to the legal version from the canonical version.
Are you a lawyer? No? Well then be sure to come back here once you get your degree and let us know the final word on this.
~Anti~ ~Commercial-AI~ ~license~ ~(CC~ ~BY-NC-SA~ ~4.0)~
Rollerdrome was very solid concept but the difficulty curve was pretty intense. One second you feel like you have the hang of it the next you can’t get to the next arena.
Yeah I absolutely adored the concept and would love.to see it picked up. I discovered it after pitching to a friend Tony Hawk’s Borderlands 4 and gradually realising the proof of concept existed.
Is Kerbal Space Program 2 worth playing for someone who had fun with but was bad at 1?
Reviews are - not good.
Not really, the first one was better in pretty much every single regard.
I haven’t really been following because the first was just beyond me…how did they fuck up part 2?
They released the game early access, so everyone was expecting a perfect game from the start because of how much development went into 1. Honestly, while 2 had issues, the game engine is much better than 1, they just needed to bake it more, like several years more, before releasing it hot off the heels of 1.
The problem was not only the state they released it. It was the price they wanted for it. 50€ for a game in alpha ?
Man that’s been the case with these sequels to games I really loved. Happened to Cities Skylines as well, and at first it seemed like that’s happened with Helldivers but it turns out it was so good it just ruined the servers.
In its current state? Not unless it gets heavily marked down (KSP2 does have better tutorials and a more accessible progression system).
With the studio being shut down, it’s likely that what we have now is all we’re getting.
Hmm maybe I’ll check on it in 5 years. Cos holly hell that price! Priced like a AAA game.
It is a AAA game. It stopped being an indie when Take Two bought it from Squad.
Why are we defending publishers and letting them get away with using this term this way? The term should be earned for its content and quality. AAA should not mean “large studio”.
This whole “we are a AAA studio”, when they haven’t even made a game and got the business license the day before is fucking stupid as shit. Don’t use the terms the way they want it to be used.
I always thought AAA just meant they have a lot of money, like how cod games are AAA because of the budget but are still terrible, not as an indicator of quality
they’re right though. it has nothing to do with “defending” anyone, that’s just what AAA means.
en.m.wikipedia.org/…/AAA_(video_game_industry)
What other industry uses the term that way? Every other industry is quality. AAA to refer to size…. Right….
I know that’s how the term is used, it’s just fucking wrong when every other industry uses it differently……
Don’t let them get away with this shit. You are defending them. Notice how your link even says informal……… they are trying to make it a thing, when no other industry uses that way, and other people in the industry are calling it out.
You’re trying to defend this stupid shit.
If you continue to use this incorrect term, it will become a thing, that’s what they are hedging on, people like you letting this happen. AAA means quality, they aren’t putting out quality product so they are trying to change what the term means so they look good. Way to eat that shit right up.
it’s all informal marketing jargon in every industry bro. this is not a hill to die on.
And that’s how marketing wins, when everyone just rolls over and accepts it.
Nah, this is just part of a long list of shit the rest of the gaming industry is trying to reverse, stop letting this continue to happen and stop defending it.
What are you talking about? The “AAA” classification has always been a measure of corporate involvement and budget, not of quality. If you think that being large in scale and having good production quality is what makes “AAA” games, you’re dead wrong.
What are you talking about…? What other industry uses it that way? Every other industry is quality, not size. Don’t let them get away with this shit.
Don’t defend them and let them get away with this shit.
If you continue to use this incorrect term, it will become a thing, that’s what they are hedging on, people like you letting this happen. AAA means quality, they aren’t putting out quality product so they are trying to change what the term means so they look good. Way to eat that shit right up.
okay dude
The AAA games they used to put out were quality games at one point. So the term was correct, now that the quality has slid they are trying to get marketing to work on their side.
And people like you letting them get away with it is how it works.
I think this is where people usually say shill and boot licker in these exchanges.
okay dude
Way to explain your point with anything of substance dude….
You’re the reason why marketing works so well. Say something flashy and people will find a way to defend it and support them. Even if it’s nothing to do with anything.
I’m just letting you
rantyell at cloudsSo nothing but a troll defending corporations using terms how they want…? Okay. Keep using the term the way they want so it means literally nothing anymore! You are the problem, glad you made it obvious! Thanks!
you’re welcome
Nope. It’s hot garbage and I say that as someone with over 2000 hours in KSP.
Better last KSP 1 and full-out modding?
It’s absolutely not “hot garbage”, but it’s definitely not done.
It’s terrible. They released an Alpha at full price. They changed how building rockets was done, for the worse. Performance was horrible even on my 3080 and aside from prettier graphics, there was nothing really new to explore. If it were cheaper, I’d be kinder. If it performed decently I wouldn’t mind but they released a POS of a game knowing full well KSP1 owners would buy it and it made us all look like suckers. They knew they released an incomplete game at full price and didn’t deliver. That sir is hot garbage.
Great, two games I loved (well, I was waiting for KSP2 to get good…)
Rollerdrome was fantastic and KSP1 is legendary. This sucks ass.
I remember the first time I successfully landed on the moon and brought my kerbals back. It was one of my most cathartic experiences.
It’s sad to see the sequel get abandoned like this.
Especially when KSP has had such an active and vibrant community for a decade
I actually was recording when I made the most gnarly mun landing ever in KSP. I ran out of fuel, was going too fast to not explode. I moved Valetina to hang on the outside of the craft, and moments before impact, I had her jump off. The resulting explosion from the module was juuuust enough counter force to prevent Valentina herself from hitting the ground too hard and she lived to plant a flag. To date, it’s the most impressive thing I’ve personally managed in the game.
youtu.be/v2CdIZXO0tQ?si=NKeFV52Q5Edqugw5 (skip to about 22:30 for the “landing”)
You did that to recover her later, right? Right?
That’s the plan. We’re still working out how. How long can Kerbals live without food and water? 🤔
That reminds me Jedediah has been stranded on the Mun since around 2016, so I hope a long time hahahaha
Funny how forgetting a ladder on the capsule undoes hours of work. Poor Jeb.
Just watched. That was amazing.
I remember the heroic explorer Jebediah Kerman was on the way way back from the moon. The touchdown was flawless landing, the science was beyond value and the moment brought all the world together.
They had doubted sending Jeb but he silenced the doubters to low grumbles.
But then as the rockets were burning for the reentry burn and the orbit was decreasing, but the brain boxes had made a drastic mistake and undershot the fuel. A perfect mission and Kerbin’s greatest hero was potentially doomed all is a moment of low delta v.
He was so close. Getting nearer and nearer to home, but it wasn’t to be! Soon he was getting further and further away! Drifting into the darkness yet again.
The agency went into full swing immediately. How much food does he have, how much water, how much air!? How long until we have another rocket that can take off!? We only built one rocket there is no back up. Never before had a two kerbin rocket has ever been flown, never before had a rendezvous been attempted, never before had a rocket flown remotely. PR was there talking to the press was doing their best to save a near hopeless situation.
Then get this! I remember it like it was yesterday. Jeb wasn’t bothered at all. Out there all on his own he said he wanted to go on a space walk. It got approved knowing that he might as well enjoy his final moments before the highly likely death. But this is Jebediah Kerman we are on about now. Not for a moment did he believe he was going to die, he get out into space and begins to push the rocket using with his bare hands! The brain boxes can’t believe it!!! Its working. The orbit had done just enough to scrap the atmosphere. Jebediah was coming home! Only Jebediah. Then even the doubters had to say of Jebediah, he was truly the greatest of all astronauts.
Okay I need a KSP blog about various (mis)adventures such as this!
The one an only Jebediah Kerman, my guy.
KSP 2 should have been a huge slam dunk. Take everything from the first one, redo the menus, up the graphics, and add some new stuff. It blows my mind they messed it up so badly.
And optimizations…
fuck it needed optimizing…
It has gotten better but man still so much undelivered. Im just sad and im tired of being sad. Im fully pledging to never buy a big publisher game unless it absolutely proves itself first and even then im still gunna be hesitant cause vote with your money and all that. Honestly outside of KSP2 Ive already been purchasing and playing mostly indie games for the last 2 years anyways
I think I’ve gotten about as much out of KSP1 as I’m ever going to get. I really like the USI mod, but the lack of optimizations keeps me from doing anything really complex. By the time I have all of the facilities on the Mun to have full manufacturing (or… munufacturing, if you will), the game is already lagging to the point of unplayability.
Its because they fired or otherwise pushed out every single original developer towards the tail end of KSP1.
To be fair, KSP 1 was pretty bad on the technical side. And they were laymen, creating what they wanted to create.
They were non-game developers doing a videogame. But they were pretty good programmers for what they put out. It’s still the best and most popular space exploration sim game ever made. The thing does the thing they said it was going to do, it will probably melt your computer during edge cases, but everywhere else it’s a solid game. They even managed to confine the kraken to very extreme circumstances. If it is a hack job but it works, then it isn’t a hack job.
Not to mention the physics are stable enough that people were building helicopters using stage seperators and landing gear long before we got any real joints.
Well those execs need to be pushed… out a window.
Wow that is insane, I didn’t know they fumbled it so bad. I remember when it was announced and the fan base was so pumped. I played a little of the first game but never got super into it.
Man I was so excited for KSP 2, I couldn’t wait to build a moon colony with friends. Shame they never delivered what they promised
I wonder why developers never put much worth in what people actually want or you know, just talk to them and ask?
Or is this some kind of “users have no idea what they want” situation?
The fact that they released a game with wobbly rockets and then charged $50 for it shows they didn’t know what the hell they were doing. It should have been free for early access with a simple way to report bugs. I’m not gonna pay that much to do QA work for them.
Add some geology formation algorythm better than mere octaves.
The same could be said of multiple games these days. KSP, payday, cities skylines, etc.
that, and fix some of the spegheti code from KSP 1. I love the game, but no one argued that it wasnt a hack job
It definitely was a hack job. But it was a little hobby project that a non videogame company decided to be cool about and develop it. It was also an early access for wicked cheap.
The sequel was given way more manpower, experience, and money right from the start.
for sure! i bought it really early on, and it was amazing.
Just wish that they hadn’t bodged it so bad.
Which was then squandered by bad management by scrapping almost two years of work to startover with entirely different staff. Let’s not kid ourselves, from a managerial POV, KSP2 is a perfect template of all the “what to do to ensure a video game fails at launch”.
Couldn’t agree more. What really hurts is KSP is one of a kind. There’s nothing else like it. Hopefully someone out there pulls a City Skylines and makes a successor.
But even the sequel to that game was botched… So who knows.
The problem is the corporate greed. But anyways, Juno exists. It has the same spirit of accurate spaceship design and flight simulation, even if the tone is distinctly different.
Would you happen to have a link for that? My Google-Fu is wanting in trying to find more information about it.
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Juno: New Origins. It is currently on sale on Steam. It’s also developed by like, 8 people or something like that. It’s a ridiculously small team.
Thank you!
I’ll be sure to check it out.Edit: You’re right, it’s on sale for only $8. I picked it up.
(BTW, I don’t work for anyone, not getting a cut from any of its sales, etc. etc.)
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As far as I’m concerned the inclusion of the “anti-DoTA” clause in their EULA murdered it for me. I was so excited. KSP is one of my favorite games of all times, largely as a result of the vibrant and very technically advanced modding community. Same goes for essentially all of my favorites; Rimworld, Backpack Hero, Factorio. The free labor that expands the games in major ways extends the value of my money and let’s me have fun forever in them.
Putting in a clause in a EULA which automatically and irrevocably assumes all ownership and rights to any code or assets that are created for a game is just too far. Assuming rights at all is a huge issue for me, but I can accept that it is beneficial to assume royalty free licenses to the mods, I’ll even begrudgingly accept clauses that allow developers to gaffle features and optimizations from mods without giving remuneration or even acknowledgment. But wholesale ownership that revokes all rights and licenses for the independent 3rd party creator. Fuck that. I will never support a game that I find out is treating the people who keep games alive and relevant for decades for free like that.
Well another studio took over from Intercept Games to work on KSP 2 a while ago, right? Star Theory, iirc.
stay theory was shut down and absorbed by intercept games
Oh yes, I forgot it went that way…
According to the wiki page… “In May 2024, Take-Two announced it would shut down Intercept Games but continue to update Kerbal Space Program 2 under the Private Division label.”
I wonder how will they manage that logistically. They are firing every single developer from IG. Who exactly in Private Division is going to be doing the updating? I suspect they will just brush a little of the code that is ready, then completely abandon the product in a year or so.
I hope that they will share the source code on some kind of GPL to make this game not dead, shot down studio isn’t going to make any update and who will get the money?
Edit: they will still make the updates
Take-Two still receives the proceeds from the sales, depending on employment contracts probably pays royalties to the devs. Also, it’s their intellectual property so there could be consequences for leaking the source code.
Can someone copypaste the article? I’m not making an account.
This is better
They abandoned Linux support. Fuck them. It was one of the only games that did. Linux users were a bug part of their initial success, and they dumped us as soon as the money came in.
I predicted KSP2 was going to be eventually abandoned and IG closed around the time of the launch, when the first industry layoffs were starting to happen. The mildest thing I was called for suggesting this was pessimist and it only got worse from that term. I suppose I was half right…so far.
something something redshell
Best case scenario, they learn from No Man’s Sky with what few devs they have left. Worst case scenario, the game remains shit, and we all continue to enjoy modded to hell KSP 1/Juno/etc.
Idk if it’s true but I heard they were gonna pull og ksp from the stores soon so that ksp 2 have better legs.