[Lord Frogmire] The Switch 2 is EVIL and I'm Tired of Pretending It's Not (www.youtube.com)
from hal_5700X@sh.itjust.works to games@lemmy.world on 16 Sep 07:59
https://sh.itjust.works/post/46136476

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BuboScandiacus@mander.xyz on 16 Sep 10:09 next collapse

Legends ZA isn’t that expensive. It costs the equivalent of 69€ or $81 in the high VAT country I live in for the switch 2 version.

caseofthematts@lemmy.world on 16 Sep 11:16 collapse

I assume they’re talking about the DLC as well. All together, the game + DLC over here is $140. I assume it’s closer to $120 for America, but haven’t done the conversions.

aislopmukbang@sh.itjust.works on 16 Sep 11:43 next collapse

$100 before tax in the US

caseofthematts@lemmy.world on 16 Sep 12:18 next collapse

Wow our dollar is shit. Not certain where the $120+ is coming from, then. But it is clickbait, so I suppose that’s the point.

hal_5700X@sh.itjust.works on 16 Sep 12:38 collapse

$20 for online for Ranked Battles. The reward for them are Mega Evolve Pokemon. If you want them you need online and that’s $20.

aislopmukbang@sh.itjust.works on 16 Sep 12:46 collapse

Is that really fair to add? Nobody did it for PSN or xbox live. Also who is to say this is the only game you want online for? Then there’s family pricing which is often split amongst members.

$100 is already a lot for a game. No need to inflate the figure.

hal_5700X@sh.itjust.works on 16 Sep 12:50 next collapse

Is that really fair to add?

Yes. We are talking about Pokemon. You know “You gotta catch em all!!” series. You need online to do that.

missingno@fedia.io on 16 Sep 13:06 collapse

Then you should be consistent and count the cost of PSN and XBL the same way.

hal_5700X@sh.itjust.works on 16 Sep 13:11 collapse

Okay, but we are talking Nintendo.

missingno@fedia.io on 16 Sep 13:59 collapse

It seems a little disingenuous to single them out this way, especially when the competitors you're strangely silent on are more expensive.

hal_5700X@sh.itjust.works on 16 Sep 14:33 collapse

Man, they really got you by the childhood.

missingno@fedia.io on 16 Sep 16:11 collapse

Why do you only single out Nintendo for something that Sony and Microsoft charge even more for?

BreakerSwitch@lemmy.world on 16 Sep 17:16 collapse

Probably because neither Sony nor Microsoft are locking single player content behind their online subscriptions. Not to mention you’re strawmanning really hard right now. Those two do it. In PC circles you’ll hear it bashed all the time. Meanwhile, Nintendo is doing it worse than anyone else because they’re deliberately locking single player content behind a subscription, not just here but also for any of their classic library, which just isn’t available for sale. Meanwhile, I could go buy a digital copy of an original xbox game on the latest xbox and it’ll just play and if I owned a digital copy on a previous console it’s transferable.

Stop it. The things you’re arguing aren’t relevant and even if they were, Nintendo is STILL the worst offender.

missingno@fedia.io on 16 Sep 18:06 collapse

It's not at all uncommon for games with an online component to have elements you need to play online to access. That's been a part of Pokemon since the series first added online play. Hell, even before that, Pokemon was conceived from the beginning to be a social game, built around the Game Boy's Link Cable if you want to see and do everything. It's never been exclusively singleplayer.

All I'm saying is that if you count online play as though it was part of a game's cost, you should be doing the same thing for games on other platforms too. You can't selectively pretend it only counts here.

ampersandrew@lemmy.world on 16 Sep 12:53 collapse

I think these online subscriptions are proving to be a major factor in why there’s been a migration of audiences from consoles to PC. People are seemingly running the long-term calculus in their heads and realizing PC is cheaper at a certain threshold.

BuboScandiacus@mander.xyz on 16 Sep 18:52 collapse

Wtf

I live in europe, in the country with the second highest VAT in the world and it’s still cheaper by ~20 USD

BuboScandiacus@mander.xyz on 16 Sep 11:49 collapse

Isn’t that a DLC ? Bonus content for a bonus price.

Passerby6497@lemmy.world on 16 Sep 12:28 collapse

Who doesn’t love day one Should-Have-Been-In-The-Base-Game DLC?

Complete game, bonus money

BuboScandiacus@mander.xyz on 16 Sep 13:46 collapse

I mean, we just saw two pikachu forms, nothing about what is in the dlc

Glide@lemmy.ca on 16 Sep 17:59 next collapse

And I’m tired of pretending a completely unwelcome and tone deaf price increase is “evil.” I hate paying more for videogames as much as the next gamer, but the cost of living has increased by 50% in basically every metric. Rent, food, power, gas, restaurants, movie theatres, snacks, alcohol… Literally everything I spend money on has gone up between 25-50%. Nintendo is the first asshole in the video game industry cocky enough to up their prices by the same amout, and suddenly, “The Switch 2 is EVIL.” Really?

Listen, I am not a fan. $10 for a tech demo that should be packaged in is insane. But pull your head back and look at the wider picture instead of coming in here with these terminally online takes. If you can’t distinguish between “evil,” (like health insurance corporations condemning millions to chronic pain and, in extremes, death) and “shit I wish wasn’t so expensive” (like a singular brand of videogames) then maybe it’s worth figuring out where the nearest patch of grass is.

emeralddawn45@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 16 Sep 18:33 collapse

I mean the cost of living going up in all those other ways is also evil. Corporations soullessly sucking every possible shred of profit they can from a suffering population ks evil. Its not just Nintendo but they’re defjnitely part of it and the fact that every other corporation is also evil doesn’t absolve them in any way.

Glide@lemmy.ca on 16 Sep 20:29 collapse

The cost of food and shelter driving people homeless and hungry is evil. The cost of Nintendo products causing people to play fewer Nintendo games is rude and unfortunate.

I’m just pissed off at all this misdirected frustration. We should be lobbying governments to manage grocery and real estate megacorps, and instead we’re creating YouTube videos about Nintendo being evil because the price of an individual game went up $20. The gap between unfettered corporate greed of UHC causing suffering on scales previously only seen in wars against Nintendo getting an extra $20 here and there if you want to keep up with their products isn’t even a fucking comparison.

Fyrnyx@kbin.melroy.org on 16 Sep 20:00 next collapse

Either wait for sales or just stop crying with these poorly constructed takes already, most of us have been telling you for years about this. It is entirely on you.

nostalgicgamerz@lemmy.world on 16 Sep 20:03 collapse

Continues to pay $80-120 for bare bones product

“why is Nintendo fucccckkkking meeeeee”

Goronmon@lemmy.world on 17 Sep 01:06 collapse

Seems pretty self-inflicted to pay the asking price for a product and then whine that you were “fucked” after the fact.

People can just not buy something if they think it’s too expensive. That’s always an option. I choose not to buy stuff all the time.

Zanshi@lemmy.world on 17 Sep 14:20 next collapse

I’m so tired of the whole discourse. Why is Nintendo “evil” while Sony and Microsoft have been doing the same stuff, and for longer? Don’t even argue, I don’t care anymore. I’m just tired.
I like Switch 2 and I will play games on it. It’s a lot cheaper than upgrading my PC. I don’t play online, and eshop has better prices than Steam in my country. Don’t yuck my yum, and I won’t yuck yours.

funtastik@lemmy.world on 17 Sep 15:03 collapse

Gaming is a luxury. I hate paying more for games but the best part of the current market is there are so many avenues to gaming.

Due to the surplus of so many games available we have the ability to buy sparingly and avoid buying at launch. We can support the companies and titles that are truly worth our dollar.

Personally, I’ll only buy titles I feel I must play as they release as the feeling of waiting is painful. Often it depends on the backlog of games I already have. Although, I do have a switch 2 and have barely played it (I’m ashamed). I do plan on Metroid Prime 4 soon and possibly some other titles. Overall, I’m not the biggest fan of Nintendo’s business practices but I’ll buy their games that I enjoy.

Obviously, Nintendo isn’t evil nor are any of these gaming companies. They are selling their product and the folks keep buying. If I never played a Nintendo game in my life cause it was outside my budget I think I’d be more than fine.