He can’t decide that and is purely speaking from a perspective of a (legendary) game dev with more experience than some studios have as a whole. He’s been longer in the game than almost anyone else for better or worse.
ampersandrew@lemmy.world
on 26 Sep 17:07
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That direction is straight toward the courthouse.
JusticeForPorygon@lemmy.world
on 26 Sep 17:28
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I mean the way some companies have been using AI they’ll be headed that way anyway.
They’re not a big tech company, not really, there’s no reason they would have the necessary compute to develop an AI in the first place so what they’re really announcing is that something that no one expected them to do is not going to happen.
In similarly news, Crayola are not going to develop an AI.
I didn’t really expect them to do that either, because what would it do?
The reason companies like Google are developing an AI is because they have a lot of processor capacity anyway, so they can make use of it and they have a broad enough product catalog that it fits with their current offerings.
emuspawn@orbiting.observer
on 27 Sep 20:03
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More like if someone else does a better job, sue the living shit out of them.
NuXCOM_90Percent@lemmy.zip
on 26 Sep 18:46
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Its Nintendo. They are always a decade behind on new technology.
Come 2032 or so they are going to be all about how great this technology that lets them create custom VAs for all their characters (so they never have another Marinet situation) is amazing.
petrol_sniff_king@lemmy.blahaj.zone
on 27 Sep 07:05
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Do you mean the voice of Mario…?
I do not want an AI voice to puppet his corpse for the next 150 years.
Nintendo used to be ahead of the curve with the N64, but you’re right that they’ve been trailing behind for a while now. The Switch still uses the Nvidia Tegra X1 CPU/GPU, which was released in 2015.
NuXCOM_90Percent@lemmy.zip
on 27 Sep 14:03
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I would actually very much argue that the N64 is when they “stopped trying” as it were.
Sony (which is a can of worms on its own), Sega, and even frigging Atari realized that CD-ROM was “the future”. Nintendo… let’s skip the Sony aspect and just say they chose not to.
The end result is that everyone else had 700 MB-ish to use for resources and were working on finding ways to hide the load times (RIP Shang Tsung). Nintendo continued to use a cartridge that could hold 4-12 and later 32 and 64 MB. This meant dialogue and cutscenes remained almost non-existent and texture work was similarly VERY limited in favor of solid colors.
Its Nintendo and most of The Internet are still the kids on the playground looking to beat up the Sega kids so we mostly talk about the good parts of those consoles going forward. But it is always fun to watch one of the Influencers have that “So… outside of like four games the N64 REALLY sucked, huh? BUT THOSE FOUR GAMES ARE THE GREATEST GAMES TO EVER EXIST AND I STILL LOVE YOU MIYAMOTO SAN!!!”. Whereas we all almost universally agree “The Playstation had an amazing library… and most of them look like someone sharted on the screen” because… 700 MB is still not a lot for texture and audio work. And “Oh yeah. The Sega Saturn existed… That was the tower of power, right?”
And from then on? It was gimmick city. The Gamecube was “portable” because of the handle. Wii is obvious. Wii U was marketed atrociously but actually was way ahead of its time in terms of second screen (… I actually loved my Wii U) but was marketed like another condom for a wii mote. And the Switch is obviously the gameboy/console hybrid.
They are not behind. Since they are not trying to catch up with Sony or MS. They purposely choose to use cheaper hardware and go a different direction. That’s not the same as being behind.
It’s their Blue Ocean strategy. They don’t want to compete directly against Sony and a trillion dollar company called Microsoft. Since the last time they did that it almost took the company under. They make a profit on each Switch sale since the first one was sold and they offer an entirely different gaming catalog that targets a different audience.
mechoman444@lemmy.world
on 26 Sep 19:19
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This reminds me of when IBM rejected the idea of the internet.
petrol_sniff_king@lemmy.blahaj.zone
on 27 Sep 07:27
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This comment reminds me of when Bitcoin became the world’s dominant currency.
Over the years I’ve gotten rid of every console except for my Nintendo consoles. Sure their hardware is not cutting edge but I don’t really care because I always enjoy myself when I play my Nintendo consoles.
If you want the 202[3/4/5] version of COD at 4k 60fps then an Xbox is probably more suited to you. Nintendo just isn’t going after that segment. The variety is a good thing.
If I wanted good hardware I’d build a PC. Which I did.
If I wanted good games, I’d build a PC, buy a switch, and sail the seas for anything those can’t run natively that I actually want to play. Which I did.
einlander@lemmy.world
on 26 Sep 23:17
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They wouldn’t, you can’t claim ownership of AI generated material in many places. So for such a litigant company AI is a no go.
f1error@thelemmy.club
on 27 Sep 02:42
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Shit on Nintendo being “behind the times” and patent litigation, but they are the console I always have the most fun with. I pick up my Switch everyday, the Xbox and PS grow dust. That’s just me, maybe I’m just too simple…
I have no problem with them being behind the times, if they even are. What’s really annoying is suing people for downloading games that they don’t even sell anymore.
Unfortunately the one behavior negates the other. How can I have fun with their products knowing that I could face legal action simply because I share my love of their games?
No sod that, I guess their games don’t get streamed then. There are plenty of companies that are happy about the free advertising, or at least don’t care either way.
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Note that he didn’t say that Nintendo is going in a different direction.
He can’t decide that and is purely speaking from a perspective of a (legendary) game dev with more experience than some studios have as a whole. He’s been longer in the game than almost anyone else for better or worse.
That direction is straight toward the courthouse.
I mean the way some companies have been using AI they’ll be headed that way anyway.
Well you did think about Mario that one time so surely they have a case.
Nintendo probably think breathing within 500 km of one of their products constitutes copyright violation.
You typed his name. We’ll see you in court, asshole
- Nintendo
Refreshing a company is not jumping on the hype train
Realistically they weren’t going to, were they?
They’re not a big tech company, not really, there’s no reason they would have the necessary compute to develop an AI in the first place so what they’re really announcing is that something that no one expected them to do is not going to happen.
In similarly news, Crayola are not going to develop an AI.
That said, they’re not likely to license an already made AI for their projects either, which is also nice.
I didn’t really expect them to do that either, because what would it do?
The reason companies like Google are developing an AI is because they have a lot of processor capacity anyway, so they can make use of it and they have a broad enough product catalog that it fits with their current offerings.
Not too far off though…
“We can already stifle creativity through the courts though?”
If it ain’t broke, don’t fix it.
More like if someone else does a better job, sue the living shit out of them.
Its Nintendo. They are always a decade behind on new technology.
Come 2032 or so they are going to be all about how great this technology that lets them create custom VAs for all their characters (so they never have another Marinet situation) is amazing.
Do you mean the voice of Mario…?
I do not want an AI voice to puppet his corpse for the next 150 years.
Nintendo used to be ahead of the curve with the N64, but you’re right that they’ve been trailing behind for a while now. The Switch still uses the Nvidia Tegra X1 CPU/GPU, which was released in 2015.
I would actually very much argue that the N64 is when they “stopped trying” as it were.
Sony (which is a can of worms on its own), Sega, and even frigging Atari realized that CD-ROM was “the future”. Nintendo… let’s skip the Sony aspect and just say they chose not to.
The end result is that everyone else had 700 MB-ish to use for resources and were working on finding ways to hide the load times (RIP Shang Tsung). Nintendo continued to use a cartridge that could hold 4-12 and later 32 and 64 MB. This meant dialogue and cutscenes remained almost non-existent and texture work was similarly VERY limited in favor of solid colors.
Its Nintendo and most of The Internet are still the kids on the playground looking to beat up the Sega kids so we mostly talk about the good parts of those consoles going forward. But it is always fun to watch one of the Influencers have that “So… outside of like four games the N64 REALLY sucked, huh? BUT THOSE FOUR GAMES ARE THE GREATEST GAMES TO EVER EXIST AND I STILL LOVE YOU MIYAMOTO SAN!!!”. Whereas we all almost universally agree “The Playstation had an amazing library… and most of them look like someone sharted on the screen” because… 700 MB is still not a lot for texture and audio work. And “Oh yeah. The Sega Saturn existed… That was the tower of power, right?”
And from then on? It was gimmick city. The Gamecube was “portable” because of the handle. Wii is obvious. Wii U was marketed atrociously but actually was way ahead of its time in terms of second screen (… I actually loved my Wii U) but was marketed like another condom for a wii mote. And the Switch is obviously the gameboy/console hybrid.
They are not behind. Since they are not trying to catch up with Sony or MS. They purposely choose to use cheaper hardware and go a different direction. That’s not the same as being behind.
It’s their Blue Ocean strategy. They don’t want to compete directly against Sony and a trillion dollar company called Microsoft. Since the last time they did that it almost took the company under. They make a profit on each Switch sale since the first one was sold and they offer an entirely different gaming catalog that targets a different audience.
This reminds me of when IBM rejected the idea of the internet.
This comment reminds me of when Bitcoin became the world’s dominant currency.
That’s only was possible because of the invention of Fusion power.
That direction is litigation via patent trolling
They’re still figuring out the internet
Could they go in a direction with good hardware and better games?
Over the years I’ve gotten rid of every console except for my Nintendo consoles. Sure their hardware is not cutting edge but I don’t really care because I always enjoy myself when I play my Nintendo consoles.
If you want the 202[3/4/5] version of COD at 4k 60fps then an Xbox is probably more suited to you. Nintendo just isn’t going after that segment. The variety is a good thing.
who would you say has made better games than Nintendo? cuz if you go by sales numbers or ratings, you might consider shutting tf up
If I wanted good hardware I’d build a PC. Which I did.
If I wanted good games, I’d build a PC, buy a switch, and sail the seas for anything those can’t run natively that I actually want to play. Which I did.
They wouldn’t, you can’t claim ownership of AI generated material in many places. So for such a litigant company AI is a no go.
Shit on Nintendo being “behind the times” and patent litigation, but they are the console I always have the most fun with. I pick up my Switch everyday, the Xbox and PS grow dust. That’s just me, maybe I’m just too simple…
I have no problem with them being behind the times, if they even are. What’s really annoying is suing people for downloading games that they don’t even sell anymore.
Or suing people because they advertised their product for them. That one has never made sense.
Unfortunately the one behavior negates the other. How can I have fun with their products knowing that I could face legal action simply because I share my love of their games?
No sod that, I guess their games don’t get streamed then. There are plenty of companies that are happy about the free advertising, or at least don’t care either way.
Tbf the fact that it’s a portable probably helps, if only the competitors would release a proper portable instead of a streaming tablet…
First we have to figure out how that"online gaming" thing works, because we’re busy suing people.
woot