Thank you, Thor! 🄳
from Fanfic_Galore@lemmy.world to games@lemmy.world on 04 Jul 15:54
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maxwells_daemon@lemmy.world on 04 Jul 16:14 next collapse

Absolute fucking clown. He’s just scared of open sourcing old games because everyone will see how shitty his code is…

AlolanYoda@mander.xyz on 04 Jul 16:19 next collapse

That’s completely misguided, because people can see his code anyway (in his streams), and also because he will never finish or release his game

fartsparkles@lemmy.world on 04 Jul 16:26 collapse

Probably little incentive to do so given how much money they’re making from Twitch, YouTube, etc.

lobut@lemmy.ca on 04 Jul 18:54 next collapse

I mean, he’s said before that shitty code doesn’t make for a good or bad game. He gave examples of lots of successful games that have ā€œbadā€ code and that it doesn’t matter and people should just make games.

SkaveRat@discuss.tchncs.de on 04 Jul 20:11 collapse

Not sure if it’s still the case, but the code of balatro was a single giant file with if cases for every card

Bad code can make great games. But it will also make them very hard to maintain

Ghoelian@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 04 Jul 22:46 next collapse

It can alsoake fes that perform way worse than they have anything to. See yandere simulator for example

Feathercrown@lemmy.world on 04 Jul 22:54 collapse

Undertale also has really bad code and it’s a great game

null@slrpnk.net on 04 Jul 20:36 collapse

But that’s not even what Stop Killing Games is about…

maxwells_daemon@lemmy.world on 04 Jul 21:28 collapse

It’s one possible solution for one of the problems under the same umbrella. If you can’t or don’t want to run the servers for your online game (eg: Echo VR), just open source the server’s code and let the community keep the game running.

Goodeye8@piefed.social on 04 Jul 22:21 next collapse

But even then it's astronomically unlikely to be retroactively enforced. Old games will be grandfathered in and it would apply only to future game releases.

Ledivin@lemmy.world on 05 Jul 13:20 collapse

But even then it’s astronomically unlikely to be retroactively enforced

It’s not unlikely, it’s literally impossible.

null@slrpnk.net on 04 Jul 22:30 collapse

You don’t need to open source the code to release the server binaries.

SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org on 04 Jul 22:45 collapse

But you could open source it and have the community figure it out themselves

null@slrpnk.net on 04 Jul 22:59 collapse

Of course, but the point is that it isn’t a factor in Thor’s decision.

jonesy@aussie.zone on 04 Jul 16:27 next collapse

I blocked this guy from my YouTube suggestions last year after getting heaps of his videos recommended to me, and in every one he comes across as an insufferable know-it-all.

dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world on 04 Jul 16:29 next collapse

And if you know anything about what he’s talking about, you quickly realize that in fact he does not know it all.

Can I be a big time Twitch celebrity too if I doodle a series of completely nondescriptive boxes and link them with little lines in MS Paint as I talk?

mic_check_one_two@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 04 Jul 16:34 next collapse

He has literally said that the MS Paint doodles aren’t meant to be super descriptive or helpful. He started doing it in his meetings at Blizzard, because he found that any visual aid was good at keeping executives’ attention. Whenever he had to do a presentation, he’d use MS Paint every few minutes to keep them focused.

And now he does the same with his viewers. He busts out MS Paint every few minutes, just to refocus the viewers and keep them engaged. It’s not to help with whatever he’s describing; it’s just to keep the viewers engaged, so he keeps making money off of them.

To his credit, at least he admits this. It’s not like he’s hiding his strategy. He just does whatever will push him to the top of the algorithms and keep viewers engaged.

RazgrizOne@piefed.zip on 04 Jul 17:12 next collapse

spoiler

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Lfrith@lemmy.ca on 04 Jul 18:18 next collapse

To his credit, at least he admits this. It’s not like he’s hiding his strategy. He just does whatever will push him to the top of the algorithms and keep viewers engaged.

I’m sick of that excuse. The whole I’m dumb or I don’t know or it’s for the algorithm excuses people make to try and deflect criticism. Guess I’ve just seen to many people of prominence use that excuse one to many times over the years.

mic_check_one_two@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 04 Jul 18:50 next collapse

It’s playing the game by the rules as written. If the Game Master is upset at a player for using their own rules against them, that’s the GM’s fault. I can’t begrudge a guy manipulating a mega corporation (in this case, manipulating Google/YouTube’s algorithms) for profit. He needs viewer retention to stay at the top of the algorithm, so that’s what he’s doing.

Lfrith@lemmy.ca on 04 Jul 19:05 next collapse

I’ve just heard so many of the same excuses for even scummier people over the years of always shifting the blame to justify whatever is necessary to get the bag. The excuses seem ever less convincing.

blanket@sh.itjust.works on 04 Jul 23:28 collapse

I think you’re confusing ā€˜excuse’ for ā€˜reason’ here. no one is excusing his behavior, just pointing out that the reason he does it is because the system allows for this kind of behavior. we can see through the veil, but others are being hooked by it because it’s designed to keep you hooked.

it’s the same with other charismatic always online personalities. they’re really good at spinning their bs and people keep eating it up because it sounds good.

Lfrith@lemmy.ca on 05 Jul 00:25 collapse

There’s people who will explain why it is done, and use it as an excuse why it is okay because that’s the rules of the game. Seen it way too many times from apologists. Heck the comment I responded to went about how they give this guy credit and can’t blame the guy for doing it.

That goes from explanation to excuses once they started providing an opinion on the behaviour. So that no one is making excuses isn’t right.

p03locke@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 05 Jul 06:23 next collapse

This is a long-winded way of saying ā€œDon’t hate the player, hate the game.ā€

janonymous@lemmy.world on 05 Jul 08:39 collapse

The viewers aren’t the game masters, though. I honestly wouldn’t want to participate in a game where I have to retain the attention of people without giving them anything of value. I think at some point those who participate also need to take some responsibility.

Lightor@lemmy.world on 05 Jul 19:18 collapse

It’s possible it’s not an excuse. I’m in software eng. Doodles and on the fly flow charts are made all the time. It’s much easier to follow a complex topic if you have something to point to. Especially when trying to tie together concepts, like interplay between services, timing, DB, APIs, etc.

ggtdbz@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 05 Jul 08:52 next collapse

To be fair, I do this at work and while I get funny looks I do get complicated ideas across better when I can provide visual aid.

Frankly I need to improve my MS Paint skills. I need to get my mouse handwriting up to at least 70% of the Khan Academy guy’s level.

cenzorrll@lemmy.ca on 05 Jul 14:53 collapse

Pretty sure he uses a wacom

seralth@lemmy.world on 05 Jul 14:19 collapse

Iv always been confused over why he was ever in a meeting with executives when his official job position was QA tester. Not lead, not supervisor. He was a grunt worker.

Kolanaki@pawb.social on 04 Jul 20:31 collapse

Can I be a big time Twitch celebrity too if I doodle a series of completely nondescriptive boxes and link them with little lines in MS Paint as I talk?

Definitely. Especially if you have large breasts.

SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org on 04 Jul 22:43 collapse

Do I have to be a woman also or are the breasts enough?

Funwayguy@lemmy.world on 04 Jul 23:00 next collapse

The latter works better, then you can go full Lily Tino when called out and ā€˜attacked’ for the obvious BS.

Kolanaki@pawb.social on 04 Jul 23:25 collapse

ā€œIf you’re a big fat man, I’m a titty fan, and I’d love to see yours, too!ā€

Duamerthrax@lemmy.world on 04 Jul 23:24 next collapse

Wings of Redemption makes it work… ok. He doesn’t make it work at all.

Justas@sh.itjust.works on 05 Jul 12:37 collapse

It’s 2025. You can be a big tiddy vtuber no matter what you are in real life.

Coolcoder360@lemmy.world on 04 Jul 16:29 next collapse

Agree, the few videos of his that I appreciated were so rare and in every one he reminds me of that guy who is a pain to actually work with and any way other than their way is completely incorrect to them.

janonymous@lemmy.world on 05 Jul 08:46 collapse

There are people with imposter syndrome, who you wish would say more and then there are people with overinflated self confidence, who just won’t shut up.

shneancy@lemmy.world on 04 Jul 16:35 next collapse

he also cheats in single player puzzle games

of course there is no way to definitely prove that, which was probably an intentional tactic, but certain puzzles he ā€œsolvedā€ in ā€œhoursā€ took a whole community weeks to figure out (brute force was the only way) and there’s no way he’s just happened to guess the right answer

FartMaster69@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 04 Jul 21:21 collapse

It’s funny because it’s not like he’s speed running or anything, he could literally just tell chat he was cheating because the puzzle was too hard and nobody would care.

But he has to keep up his insufferable smarter than everyone image by ā€œsolvingā€ puzzles fast.

Newsteinleo@midwest.social on 05 Jul 11:59 next collapse

If you think he is an insufferable know it, you have not met enough insufferable know it alls. He is look warm obnoxious at best.

jonesy@aussie.zone on 05 Jul 12:26 next collapse

I don’t know man, I thought he was insufferable then, and after watching this rundown I stand by original opinion of him being an insufferable little gremlin.

Newsteinleo@midwest.social on 05 Jul 13:28 collapse

Peace of life advice, don’t let other people tell you how to think, form your own opinions based on the things you value and experience.

Thor exist, and so do a lot of people that are a lot worse. He gets at more hate than he deserve when people like Jordan Peterson exist.

Also, you don’t have to watch his videos. You can just ignore him and move on with your life. There are better things to do with your time than to hate someone.

pchela@lemmy.world on 05 Jul 16:45 collapse

There’s a beautiful sentence at the end of every Rare Earth video: Don’t let other people think for you, they can barely think for themselves.

Newsteinleo@midwest.social on 05 Jul 17:53 collapse

There is some really truth to that.

DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social on 05 Jul 13:22 next collapse

Oh wow you know so much about this topic and everything else!

Newsteinleo@midwest.social on 05 Jul 13:30 collapse

All I am saying is that i have met truly insufferable know it alls and he is not one.

Randomgal@lemmy.ca on 05 Jul 15:29 collapse

Oh the irony lmao

Newsteinleo@midwest.social on 05 Jul 15:49 collapse

I am not sure you know meaning of irony

Nangijala@feddit.dk on 05 Jul 16:27 collapse

*lukewarm.

Sorry, I’m not in this fight, but my inner grammar-nazi just couldn’t help herself.

Newsteinleo@midwest.social on 05 Jul 17:57 collapse

Apology exempted. Just please considered that the person you are correcting may not know English as their first language or by be struggling with dyslexia or some other issue you may know nothing about

Nangijala@feddit.dk on 05 Jul 18:43 collapse

That’s totally fair. I’m not a native English speaker myself, but some of the English I have learned has been through corrections from friendly souls around the internet so I wanted to pay it forward. I’m not judging or attacking you as I don’t expect anyone to be perfect in any language. Not even their own. Just wanted to help out šŸ¤—

kadaverin0@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 05 Jul 20:51 collapse

I wrote him off as a prick after he practically had a narcissistic meltdown during a stream with a psychiatrist when he was told that he comes off as an arrogant pedant and needs to learn to admit when he’s wrong.

danekrae@lemmy.world on 04 Jul 16:32 next collapse

Who is this, and why is she so sad?

tja@sh.itjust.works on 04 Jul 17:24 next collapse

Misgendering people is not funny.

danekrae@lemmy.world on 04 Jul 17:29 next collapse

According to 30 rock it is.

<img alt="" src="https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/1d96e9a7-18e3-420c-ab0d-48c1d5c888ea.png">

iAmTheTot@sh.itjust.works on 04 Jul 17:32 collapse

The difference is that 30 Rock is not doing it to be mean spirited.

victorz@lemmy.world on 04 Jul 20:13 collapse

I think the root comment is just memeing? But I see your point, it’s not funny. (Or it shouldn’t be.)

iAmTheTot@sh.itjust.works on 04 Jul 20:22 collapse

What does ā€œjust memeingā€ mean here?

kamenlady@lemmy.world on 04 Jul 21:12 collapse

Oh? You’re approaching me?

<img alt="" src="https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/c0b03102-260e-4833-a3f5-28abc654af68.png">

They memed the joke from the show, while i just copied the part from jojo.

I wanted to lure you into revealing your stand.

Default_Defect@midwest.social on 05 Jul 09:09 next collapse

No, you don’t understand, misgendering is fine when its someone you don’t like, just like how body shaming is great when its a man.

/s

tja@sh.itjust.works on 05 Jul 16:27 collapse

Looking at the upvote/ downvote ratio you might be right

BlackPenguins@lemmy.world on 05 Jul 22:21 collapse

You did not get the 30 Rock quote I see.

StoneyDcrew@lemmy.world on 04 Jul 17:29 collapse

I kinda hate the guy so it’s hard for me to keep the tone neutral but I’ll try my best.

Long story short: He’s a popular streamer that had a few controversies that caused many people labelled him as arrogant or egotistical.

The latest one is his take on the ā€œstop killing gamesā€ initiative that he was against. He had a video a few months ago were he misrepresentated the movement and spread misinformation (whether or not this was intentional or misinformed is up for debate) and caused a significant drop in the momentum of the movement, refusing to accept any criticism and doubling down on things. That was until recently were the initiative was in the last month and a half before the big deadline at only around 50% of the required signatures, but then huge momentum sprung up with a lot of people marking him as the ā€œvillainā€ of the movement and because of his controversy before it wasn’t long before word spread.

This has obviously led to harassment of the guy(which I feel is too far personally) which he responded to by tripling down on his opinion causing further being labelled as the villain. Eventually the momentum carried it over the finish and people are happy that he didn’t get his way.

MolochAlter@lemmy.world on 04 Jul 21:35 collapse

whether or not this was intentional or misinformed is up for debate

It’s not, in his response to the initial controversy he cut out the part of Ross’ video that directly contradicted his misrepresentation, he’s a lying piece of shit.

BurgerBaron@piefed.social on 04 Jul 16:41 next collapse

I'm not relaxing unil it's 1.5 million.

toynbee@lemmy.world on 04 Jul 18:52 collapse

In Ross’ video, IIRC, he said 110% was good, 120% was pretty safe, and 140% was very safe.

edit: Correct autocorrect.

SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org on 04 Jul 22:46 collapse

200% it shall be!

SandmanXC@lemmy.world on 04 Jul 16:57 next collapse

I’m not proud of it but I really enjoyed the mass dunking on this guy.

bishoponarope@lemmy.world on 04 Jul 17:07 collapse

Be a little proud, as a treat. You deserve it.

sommerset@thelemmy.club on 04 Jul 18:16 next collapse

What u attempt to accomplish? Maintaining games also takes time and effort and server costs and they likely kill them to save costs.

There is no way this petition is gonna do anything

4am@lemmy.zip on 04 Jul 18:37 next collapse

When games put DRM in them that requires a server

And I buy that game

And then they take away that server

I want my money back

Or for them to patch the game so it works

It’s not fucking hard to figure out

funkless_eck@sh.itjust.works on 04 Jul 18:50 next collapse

then don’t make single player games (or sections of games) require a server.

KingOfTheCouch@lemmy.ca on 04 Jul 19:31 next collapse

At best we get fresh new EULA’s to click through on our way to play our game.

I’ve signed a lot of petitions over the years, and I’d sign this one too, but it’s pretty naive to think this will actually do anything useful.

HK65@sopuli.xyz on 04 Jul 21:06 next collapse

This is not just a random petition, it has legal force to compel the EU to officially hear the issue.

pupbiru@aussie.zone on 05 Jul 14:17 collapse

you can’t sign away consumer rights in a EULA… they might try and out them in there, but if it were law then they wouldn’t be able to enforce it

deur@feddit.nl on 04 Jul 19:51 next collapse

Its okay to stop running the servers. All gamers want is to have the stuff it takes to continue to enjoy the game after the companies are done.

HK65@sopuli.xyz on 04 Jul 21:06 next collapse

It might get the EU to make a law.

psx_crab@lemmy.zip on 05 Jul 05:54 next collapse

Enable offline mode. That’s the very least they can do. These game, like how EA famously claim that it’s not possible for SimCity to run in offline mode and then soon release an offline mode, should be playable offline.

Enable private server/p2p multiplayer. This would make sure playing with friends is still possible after the server went down.

seralth@lemmy.world on 05 Jul 23:39 collapse

It’s trivial in the grand scheme of things to release a localhost server to let games run offline. For the amount of work that goes into games already this is a drop in the bucket.

It’s also trivial if you know it’s a requirement at the start of the project.

So even if it does nothing for games out now, if it makes it a requirement going forward that alone would be a massive success all by it self.

2xsaiko@discuss.tchncs.de on 04 Jul 18:26 next collapse

Is this a real screenshot of him crying about the initiative reaching 100%?

Tattorack@lemmy.world on 04 Jul 18:34 collapse

Very unlikely. He hasn’t made any content covering the initiative yet.

picnic@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 04 Jul 22:45 next collapse

You mean, after the shit he put out that was complete bs?

SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org on 04 Jul 22:47 collapse

He probably still does not understand what it’s about

vodka@feddit.org on 04 Jul 18:54 next collapse

Can’t wait for him to see this and claim it was his plan the entire time

lemmy12369@midwest.social on 04 Jul 19:59 next collapse

Only way to get around it…

Nilz@sopuli.xyz on 04 Jul 20:19 next collapse

So that’s why he worked at Blizzard for 7 years and keeps bringing it up.

DogWater@lemmy.world on 05 Jul 10:53 collapse

Full ambercrombie & Fitch mode

krimson@lemmy.world on 04 Jul 19:37 next collapse

I watch this dude sometimes, he says he’s a fulltime game dev but all I see him do is play other games. The game he works on has seen very little progress.

Would be nice if he at least admits he’s a streamer and not a game dev.

Lemminary@lemmy.world on 04 Jul 19:53 next collapse

I’ve also noticed this from watching his stream and the more I learn about the guy the less I like him. He seems to misrepresent and oversell himself quite a bit.

Btw did he tell you about the time he worked at Blizzard, for the millionth time?

JoYo@lemmy.ml on 04 Jul 20:32 next collapse

The job he got through nepotism?

echodot@feddit.uk on 05 Jul 06:16 collapse

He worked at Blizzard in the same way that Apple store employees work for Apple. They do, but not in the capacity that’s been implied.

whats_all_this_then@programming.dev on 05 Jul 19:39 collapse

Are Apple devs even contractually allowed to say that they’re Apple devs? I swear every employee from every other company won’t shut up about it on twitter but you never hear a thing from Apple people. Have I just been missing them completely?

echodot@feddit.uk on 06 Jul 07:57 collapse

I know a few people who used to work for Apple. The reason a lot don’t say it though is because if you do people automatically assume you had something to do with whatever feature they don’t personally like, and you get berated about it.

whats_all_this_then@programming.dev on 06 Jul 10:03 collapse

Ah, that’s completely understandable. Most people don’t realize that in a lot of companies, even if you are involved, the decision to make the stupid feature/break your workflow comes from a suit 10 pay grades above your level and despite everyone involved trying to explain that it’s a bad idea.

Also it’s a big fucking company haha

e8d79@discuss.tchncs.de on 04 Jul 20:29 next collapse

Sounds an awful lot like what YandereDev did when he was still relevant.

burgerpocalyse@lemmy.world on 04 Jul 23:02 next collapse

yanderedev is always relevant

ICastFist@programming.dev on 05 Jul 12:44 next collapse

One of the best cautionary tales for developers

[deleted] on 05 Jul 17:21 collapse

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DreamlandLividity@lemmy.world on 05 Jul 17:21 collapse

No joke, YandereDev has been making more progress than Thor on Hartbound and he at least does not pretend to be experienced Blizzard game developer.

frenchfryenjoyer@lemmings.world on 04 Jul 20:34 next collapse

I remember seeing gameplay of Heartbound in like 2017? maybe earlier. it’s still not finished?

chronicledmonocle@lemmy.world on 05 Jul 01:25 collapse

No it’s not. It’s sad.

MITM0@lemmy.world on 05 Jul 09:08 collapse

I mean isn’t it a Deltarune ripoff ??

EDIT: Undertale it is then

dustyData@lemmy.world on 05 Jul 13:06 next collapse

Deltarune didn’t exist yet. It’s an undertale ripoff.

Which is very telling, tobyfox released a whole game on his own. While this " I worked at blizzard, BTW" tool hasn’t with an (allegedly) entire company around him. He’s a grifter, he scams people around him to profit off of other’s work. That’s all he does.

chronicledmonocle@lemmy.world on 05 Jul 13:07 collapse

Given that it didn’t exist yet, more like an Undertale rip off

underscores@lemmy.zip on 05 Jul 00:23 next collapse

ā€œgame devā€ is a way to put it

Randomgal@lemmy.ca on 05 Jul 15:26 next collapse

Yeah but did you know he worked at Blizzard?

kadaverin0@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 05 Jul 18:51 collapse

He’s been working on that game for almost a decade now, too.

atrielienz@lemmy.world on 04 Jul 19:48 next collapse

For those who don’t know, this streamer is only tangentially related to the stop killing games petition because he made a comment about it being BS because he misinterpreted what it was supposed to do. He used his misinterpretation to spread false information about this petition leading to it not getting the support it initially should have.

When the guy behind the petition made a statement saying he didn’t think the petition was going to get enough signatures in part because of the misinformation being spread about it, PirateSoftware doubled down on his false claims and all of this lead to people doing the research they should have done in the first place and deciding to support the petition after all.

What we should probably be learning from this is that we should do our own research, and find out things instead of taking the word of random people online.

Edit: electric has brought to my attention that it wasn’t just one clip, but in fact a whole video dedicated to spreading misinformation that was made by Thor from PirateSoftware. Just wanted to be clear about that.

electric@lemmy.world on 04 Jul 21:01 next collapse

A comment? Am I misreading your comment or is this just ignorance of the situation? Because PirateSoftware made a whole ass video on the subject way back (the one allegedly rife with misinformation). I remember it on my feed when the campaign was getting traction, but didn’t watch it because my view of him was souring.

From what clips I’ve seen*, PirateSoftware misinterprets the majority of what he addressed. Either maliciously or unknowingly, which is why he was blamed for tanking momentum since that video did get a ton of views (before people wised up to him being a total cunt).

*Yes I know the irony of what I just said there after reading your last paragraph. I believe these terminally online streamers because I would not put it past PirateSoftware to be this awful after watching his videos for a small period and then the subsequent controversies coming out.

atrielienz@lemmy.world on 04 Jul 21:47 next collapse

He may well have done but the only clip I have seen is the one where someone asks about it while he’s streaming games and he responded to that person with misinformation.

electric@lemmy.world on 04 Jul 21:52 next collapse

Ah. Makes sense. I caught a stream once and he pretty much just did discussions with the chat. A lot of his videos were just cuts from his streams when someone asked.

dustyData@lemmy.world on 05 Jul 13:10 collapse

ā€œNot only I’m not gonna support it, I gonna actively tell people to not support it. Because this is stupid. This is shit. Eat my ass.ā€

— Thor ā€œPirateSoftwareā€ Hall, on the Stop Killing Games proposal.

atrielienz@lemmy.world on 05 Jul 20:13 collapse

Yes. That clip.

p03locke@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 05 Jul 06:27 collapse

Multiple videos.

He made multiple videos.

echodot@feddit.uk on 05 Jul 06:18 collapse

I think a lot of people didn’t hear about this guy until about 2 days ago. Personally I didn’t even know about this petition.

I knew about the lawsuit against The Crew, but I didn’t know anything about any more general petition, so I think the greater problem was simply a lack of advertising.

Kolanaki@pawb.social on 04 Jul 20:26 next collapse

I hate having to hear his obnoxious voice because my sister watches him all the fuckin’ time.

electric@lemmy.world on 04 Jul 21:07 next collapse

My condolences. I don’t even dislike the voice, his attitude just makes him so punchable. You think he’s some kind of expert at first but then it dawns on you that he’s just confidently stupid.

dustyData@lemmy.world on 05 Jul 13:15 collapse

His obnoxious voice is fake, just as him. There are videos of him outside the streaming. His voice is artificially lowered for streams and videos. He’s all fake.

Randomgal@lemmy.ca on 05 Jul 15:27 collapse

I’ve seen the video. Fuck PirateSotware but it’s just a bad mic in they video. All audio is distorted.

sleepmode@lemmy.world on 05 Jul 00:00 next collapse

I wish he’d stop getting any kind of attention at all. He is a fraud.

db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 05 Jul 00:28 next collapse

That attention is the dying embers of the torch he took to his career

mostlikelyaperson@lemmy.world on 05 Jul 08:00 collapse

Dude had entirely disappeared from my timelines before every youtuber and lemmy poster seemingly felt the need to tell me about how naughty he is.

DragonofKnowledge@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 05 Jul 00:10 next collapse

I know it’s not going to happen, but I would love it if legislation could go as far as requiring companies to open-source their engines and servers after maybe a period of time, or on ending support for the game. It could be done ID-style where the company retains full rights of the content and trademarks, which would still require players to buy the game to legally play it.

I’m aware there are a lot of cases where games include middleware that’s licensed from 3rd parties that complicate preservation efforts. But if open-sourcing the code is the path taken, there’s a simple solution for that: just release what you can, even if what’s released is in an unplayable state without the middleware. It then becomes the responsibility of any volunteers to take that code and bring it back to a usable state however they choose.

This drama highlights that there’s still a great need for better computer literacy. Anyone with even a basic education in how software, source-code, and software licensing works can tell PirateSoftware is full of shit pretty much immediately. That is, anyone educated who are themselves not grifters.

MITM0@lemmy.world on 05 Jul 09:07 next collapse

Yessss.

Duamerthrax@lemmy.world on 05 Jul 13:28 next collapse

You should only be granted copyright protections if you can guarantee the copyrighted material can become public domain after the time period ends. This would involve giving the government a copy of all source code and assets to preserve securely. This should be a flat policy for all copyrighted material, so 3rd party involvement wouldn’t complicate things.

DragonofKnowledge@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 05 Jul 13:50 collapse

That’s a pretty interesting idea. Unfortunately it depends on being somewhere where copyrights ever actually end.

Duamerthrax@lemmy.world on 05 Jul 13:57 collapse

That’s another debate, but if a company ever closed and no one claimed the IP, it could be released early.

MotoAsh@lemmy.world on 05 Jul 20:21 collapse

The original intent of patents was almost exactly that. You’re protected for a handful of years, after that anyone can just use the patent as instructions for recreating it.

… then Disney and other fucking greedy ghouls of corporations got involved and greased the right palms…

eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 05 Jul 00:44 next collapse

I’m glad that someone I’ve personally disliked for various reasons is finally having a lot of people see them for who they really are.

Man this dude is a total nepobaby tool.

jownz@lemmy.world on 05 Jul 08:53 next collapse

Omg… this comment… this comment right here šŸ‘†. This is what I needed to see because I relate so strongly to it. F’kn guy sucks! (By guy sucks, I mean coworker of my nightmares that leans on me like a cancer). But my god, I’m so happy for him.

killeronthecorner@lemmy.world on 05 Jul 12:50 collapse

I came to PS through YouTube shorts and his streams were cut to ribbons and repatched into something resembling a zeitgeist-appealing view.

Then I watched a couple of his long form videos and was like … eh. If anything it taught me more about the danger of using shorts as an onboard to any big vtuber. Much like movie trailers and their movies, they tend to overpromise and underdeliver.

This became undeniably apparent when YouTube started shoving Jordan Petersen into my feed. Much like the thousand monkeys at their typewriters, you can take the words of anyone who talks at length almost daily on a subject and edit them into something that sounds reasonable and appealing.

I already knew that JP was a right wing rhetoric Markov chain posing as an expert/pundit before YT started promoting him, but it really did cement the point.

tempest@lemmy.ca on 05 Jul 13:23 next collapse

Any male dominated channel that ever ā€œgives adviceā€ gets shunted into that pipeline by algo pretty consistently.

I like stand up comedy and it’s a full time job keeping Rogan out of my suggestions.

killeronthecorner@lemmy.world on 05 Jul 14:39 collapse

Yeah, for real. YouTube is essentially placing infinite bets that it can drive you into the rabbit hole. Watched a short of Dillahunty give Peterson a verbal wedgy? You must like big words, so here’s more Peterson! Watched a short of Joey Swoll telling people to be polite, because it rolled on automatically? Here’s an Andrew Tate wannabe with shrivelled nuts to subtly criticise you about your dad bod.

Obsession and radicalisation are one and the same to the algorithm, and both turn a targeted individual into a money printer. And fuck the consequences right? Because Google got theirs.

seralth@lemmy.world on 05 Jul 14:10 collapse

Even Hitler out of context sounds good. Context is paramount. Never trust a good speaker with the extra time to edit himself in post with out the context of the original or their history.

killeronthecorner@lemmy.world on 05 Jul 14:42 next collapse

It’s often not the speaker doing the editing, there are thousands of channels built around creating and releasing these cast-a-wide-net shorts to subtly drive you towards their goal of obsessively watching right wing vtubers saying things that compel you to be a selfish narcissist.

cows_are_underrated@feddit.org on 05 Jul 16:02 next collapse

Nowadays its also quite common to design speeches around short form videos, so that you can then edit as much as possible into short little segments that are optimised for short form content. The right wingers do it a lot and, at least in Germany, our leftist party realised that this is a strategy to not miss out on.

deltapi@lemmy.world on 05 Jul 18:29 collapse

Absolutely. For example:

seralth@lemmy.world said:

…Hitler… …sounds good.

TwinTitans@lemmy.world on 05 Jul 01:49 next collapse

Guys a fucking loser. Needs to get a real job.

JargonWagon@lemmy.world on 05 Jul 16:26 next collapse

He’s had quite a few ā€œreal jobsā€ lol

kadaverin0@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 05 Jul 18:49 next collapse

He’ll gladly tell you about how he was hacker/dev whizkid at Blizzard for 7 years. Of course, he’ll leave out the fact that he was only a QA tester and a web security drone who got the job because his father is a big wig there.

TheEighthDoctor@lemmy.zip on 05 Jul 19:54 collapse

Don’t you know he worked for Blizzard /s

TwinTitans@lemmy.world on 05 Jul 21:54 collapse

Ahh. Starting to see how that company fell to shit now šŸ˜‚

MITM0@lemmy.world on 05 Jul 09:10 next collapse

I am happy that it’s a Peripeteia developer saying this. The game is a mess (because it’s Early access) & needs a looooot if optimization, but boy it’s something else.

Gives me Ghost in the Shell vibes

Blaiz0r@lemmy.ml on 05 Jul 13:25 next collapse

Credit where credit’s due

Phegan@lemmy.world on 05 Jul 14:32 next collapse

Now that Thor has helped us achieve our goal. Let us never speak of him again.

CaptSatelliteJack@lemy.lol on 05 Jul 15:02 next collapse

Every good story needs a villain

gmtom@lemmy.world on 05 Jul 15:19 next collapse

I’ve never liked the guy, he’s always seemed so full of himself like he thinks he’s smarter than everyone and can never be wrong.

jsomae@lemmy.ml on 05 Jul 15:20 next collapse

How about let’s all not talk or make angry memes about the guy. Ross requested that he not be harassed. Something about not wanting negative energy.

Randomgal@lemmy.ca on 05 Jul 15:22 next collapse

It’s not about Ross, it’s about sending a message.

TheGreenWizard@lemmy.zip on 05 Jul 16:10 next collapse

I doubt he’ll ever use Lemmy to be honest, but I get what you mean.

jsomae@lemmy.ml on 05 Jul 22:35 collapse

Since what happens on Lemmy stays on Lemmy, I guess it must be fine.

TheGreenWizard@lemmy.zip on 06 Jul 00:31 collapse

I said I get what you mean.

DreamlandLividity@lemmy.world on 05 Jul 16:31 next collapse

I’m not gonna go out of my way to review bomb his game or send him messages or at him on twitter. But I am not gonna stop calling him a narcisistic idiot whenever the topic comes up. People should know. That is not harassment, that is countering misinformation, at least IMO. A meme like this is not harassment in my book either. He is a public figure.

bilb@lemmy.ml on 05 Jul 16:48 next collapse

Ross is not my dad

jsomae@lemmy.ml on 05 Jul 22:34 collapse

yeah but he’s a daddy tho 😘

mriswith@lemmy.world on 05 Jul 18:11 collapse

One of the big reasons many people are ā€œokayā€ with making fun of him. Is that he could basically make it all go away if he just admitted he was wrong.

The whole thing stems from him being so full of himself that he cannot admit any fault, ever. He has been objectively proven wrong many times on several different topics, there are a lot of situations that heavily indicate misconduct, etc. And he literally went on a stream with a licensed psychiatrist who tried to explain some of his faults. To which he laughed and said ā€œOkay, don’t see it that way, but alrightā€.

At the end of the day, he seems almost incapable of admitting that he ever did or said anything wrong. So people keep making fun of him, since he’s objectively proven wrong repeatedly.

waggz@programming.dev on 05 Jul 21:04 collapse

If you’re not familiar with it, check out his classic wow hardcore drama. He’s absolutely incapable of admitting any fault. And he and his mods just ban anyone immediately if they try to have a discussion.

SunshineJogger@feddit.org on 05 Jul 15:55 next collapse

I actually do not know who that is. Some YouTuber?

Caitlyynn@lemmy.blahaj.zone on 05 Jul 16:08 next collapse

Trashy twitch streamer with a massive ego problem

BlackPenguins@lemmy.world on 05 Jul 22:20 collapse

Just know he’s someone who wants you to eat his entire ass.

KyuubiNoKitsune@lemmy.blahaj.zone on 05 Jul 16:21 next collapse

Just remember that we still need more signatures on the EU one, to rule out bot and incorrect signatures.

tetris11@feddit.uk on 05 Jul 18:19 collapse

EU one requires an ID/passport, UK one doesn’t – I’d argue that the EU one is safe and the UK one should get more attention on the validitiy

ClamDrinker@lemmy.world on 05 Jul 18:38 next collapse

Ross explained it in his last video - there are reasons to be skeptical and unsure if it’s truly there until at least 1.4 mil signatures. And more votes is never bad. So both need more attention. If it reaches people in the EU it will also reach those in the UK.

tetris11@feddit.uk on 05 Jul 18:39 collapse

gotta summary? I don’t wanna watch a vid

ClamDrinker@lemmy.world on 05 Jul 19:13 collapse

There’s always just people that mess up on the form. But they also monitor the sign rate and saw some periods of higher than normal signing in the middle of the night in the EU - indicating someone might have ran a bot to sign with invalid information. The EU only validates the signatures once the petition is closed, so they need a safe margin where even with a significant amount of invalid signatures, they still make it. Afaik 1.2 mil is about what they would expect for a normal vote of this size to be safe, and 1.4 mil is basically more than enough to compensate for any bad actors.

tetris11@feddit.uk on 05 Jul 20:49 collapse

The EU only validates the signatures once the petition is closed

Ah, makes sense - thanks for this

Ksin@lemmy.world on 05 Jul 19:16 collapse

The type of verification depends on the country and some don’t have any verification at signing. I’m Swedish and when I signed I just filled out a form, no checks of any kind.

KyuubiNoKitsune@lemmy.blahaj.zone on 05 Jul 20:52 collapse

Time for the EU to adopt FrejaID

Opisek@lemmy.world on 05 Jul 22:10 collapse

EU is actively working on the EU Wallet and certain sources tell me it is getting there.

Nangijala@feddit.dk on 05 Jul 16:38 next collapse

I feel like a tourist on a safari trip with this whole saga. A colleague of mine told me about this situation and now I can’t look away.

When all is said and done, I definitely think it would be a good idea to have game libraries both physical and digital where people can play old games as they stop being profitable to developers.

I have vague memory of there already being such consumer made game libraries for old Gameboy titles back in the 2000s but those sites were taken down. It would be great to have some sort of system in place because this licensing bullshit is exactly why I ended up completely leaving streaming as a whole (for movies and shows) and went back to physical media in january/February of this year. I borrow dvds at the library now. It is fucking fantastic. I had forgotten how much I missed going looking for movies I’d like to see in places like Moby Disc and Blockbuster. It’s so comfy and when you find a movie you’ve never heard of before and you bring it home and it’s really good, it just feels so special.

I think games should have that too. I stopped playing games in 2015 because I just saw no end to having to fork out money all the time to keep up with the tech and getting new titles and gradually seeing how it was more and more an online thing instead of a physical thing so I just stopped. Didn’t like the direction games were taking. Seems like it is reaching a breaking point finally.

Libraries are so important for culture.

Iambus@lemmy.world on 05 Jul 18:56 next collapse

To think I actually liked this guy, what an egotistical asshole he really is.

Duamerthrax@lemmy.world on 06 Jul 00:17 collapse

Egotism often translates to charisma and confidence, but falls apart eventually.

Also, a reminder, the ā€œConā€ in con-artist is short for confidence.

TheEighthDoctor@lemmy.zip on 05 Jul 19:50 next collapse

Imagine using a voice changer to sound deeper and cheating in Outer Wilds of all games

UnsavoryMollusk@lemmy.world on 05 Jul 22:04 collapse

I didn’t know about the voice changer and the cheating, am curious now

TheEighthDoctor@lemmy.zip on 06 Jul 08:57 collapse

The real voice:

youtu.be/atuglRrItr4

And basically he finished Outer Wilds in his first time loop because he is so much smarter than everyone else

JustTheWind@lemmy.world on 05 Jul 20:21 next collapse

It actually is the most hilarious of ironies that despite what very real harm Thor might have inflicted upon the early stages of the movement through misinformation/mischaracterization; The fact is, I don’t think this movement would have come near to exploding the way that it has recently if not for the perfect Rube Goldberg machine of drama surrounding this man in the past 6 months.

Seriously. He could not have Barbara Streisand effected the ā€œStop Killing Gamesā€ movement harder if he tried. It really is such poetic justice. It’s a shame that I don’t live in the EU or I would gladly sign the initiate myself. Here’s to hoping that another EU regulation can have sweeping effects for the US. As a reluctant and very jaded US citizen myself, I harbor no illusions about any real and meaningful consumer protection regulations to ever make it over here. Mega-corpos have simply spent far too much money buying out every level of government, legislature, and regulatory bodies that exist.

Europe really is like a strange beacon of hope for US consumers, as odd as that sounds. Fight the good fight for us as well, brothers.

Kolanaki@pawb.social on 05 Jul 20:53 collapse

I’m calling it now: Thor is going to eventually say that this was his plan all along.

Joeffect@lemmy.world on 05 Jul 23:05 next collapse

I can believe this, if he wasn’t such a narcissist or such a lying douche bag who always has to be right and has something to say about absolutely everything while having a story to go with it…

Then he would be a pretty cool guy…

Some of his advice isn’t actually bad though… I watched him for a bit but the more you watch him the more you see him for who he is…

JustTheWind@lemmy.world on 06 Jul 02:17 collapse

A 5-D Chess move truly beyond comprehension by the mortal mind.

hector@sh.itjust.works on 05 Jul 20:21 next collapse

I don’t know what happened in details but I really don’t hate him, as a member of the video game industry he has the right to make his voice heard.

I’m still glad consumers won here :)

helpmyusernamewontfi@lemmy.today on 05 Jul 22:25 next collapse

If you’re interested in the details: youtu.be/HIfRLujXtUo?t=1117

Atomic@sh.itjust.works on 05 Jul 22:45 next collapse

I’m not saying you should hate him. And he absolutely have the right to his own opinion. But what he did is the equivalent of reading a news title, and then go trash talk it in the comments about how awful it is, when the article wasn’t about what you were mad about, at all.

Basically this;

Title: Denmark shuts down 60% of their wind-power

Article: Denmark shuts down 60% of their wind-power, pending an investigation as 1 million birds have died in them over the past 3 months, they are currently assessing the situation and investigating why this change in bird migration route has occurred and how to prevent more deaths. According to local expert, they will use the time to perform maintenance and test various methods of scaring birds away.

PirateSoftware: Denmark are the fucking worst, they shut down tons of wind farms, they are anti renewable, they don’t want wind farms, they realized that they can get cheaper gas, if they import more, and the difference will offset the cost of running and maintaining these wind farms. Where are they getting this gas? Probably Norway, possibly even Russia dude! They can eat my ass, the entire thing. Dried shit in my ass hairs and all.

Eggyhead@lemmings.world on 06 Jul 06:50 next collapse

No one’s silencing him, though right? They’re just reacting to what he said, which is consequence. Is this somehow challenging his right to make his voice heard?

crmsnbleyd@sopuli.xyz on 06 Jul 07:34 collapse

Lying and being rude to someone for no reason is not making your voice heard

EarlGrey@discuss.tchncs.de on 06 Jul 00:04 next collapse

Can someone explain just what exactly he did?

I tend to avoid social media drama like the plague.

Duamerthrax@lemmy.world on 06 Jul 00:14 next collapse

17 minutes.

But in short, PirateSoftware had a fall from grace for narcissism and with his previous opposition to the petition, became a ā€œvillainā€ to unite against.

Jankatarch@lemmy.world on 06 Jul 00:15 collapse

Misinterpreted the article, made a video about it. Ignored his own comments calling him out on it.

Was overall an asshole ā€œI know more than all of youā€ through, tone and everything.

Then doubled down.

Ricaz@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 06 Jul 02:30 collapse

Business as usual for Thor, sadly

LettyWhiterock@lemmy.world on 06 Jul 00:19 collapse

My only real experience with this guy was that he helped fund a mario 64 romhacking competition that I entered. So I got some money from him because of it. Funny how that works out.